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Ah, that makes more sense. Good addition to the article. - Tεx τ urε 15:43, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Not the first time this ref has courted controversy. As well as the controversial decision in the Romania game, he had to be escorted off the pitch after giving Lyon a penalty against Celtic in the last few minutes of a Champion's League match last year, for a perceived handball offence. Mintguy (T) 11:18, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The mention of the Terry/Campbell foul in the England-Portugal game is rather silly, it was a pretty apparent obstruction of the goalkeeper within the five meter box and it was perfectly within the referee's jurisdiction to award a foul to the defending team. The laws of the game explicitely say how interference with the keeper is not legal, and there is in fact a reminder saying "it is an offence to restrict the movement of the goalkeeper by unfairly impeding him at the taking of a corner kick". Sure, the goal would probably have decided the game, but we can't blame the refs from doing their job just because it's a tight match. I'm sure Urs Meier has done much more obvious mistakes that would deserve a mention -- but this isn't one of them. --
Shallot 12:23, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I'm not going to bang on and say "we woz robbed" or anything, these things happen in football, but it was clearly a goal. This may be the explanation [1] Mintguy (T)
Was it a corner? I thought it was in open play, the ball bounced off the crossbar first anyway, there was no suspected offence when the ball was played into the 18-yard box.
Next to the disallowed goal the worst of his decisions was this - [3] where a free kick was awarded to Portugal. Shocking!!!
I think the "We was robbed" link at the bottom should be removed. It has absoloutly no educational use, and just highlights a group of English fans desperate for an excuse for the loss. That UEFA backed his decision shows he was right, so controversial or not, attacking him in this article because of that decision seems ridiculous. Grunners 20:48, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
and disregarded the extra time announced by the assistant, making it five minutes instead of two - That just complete rubbish language wise. Under the laws of the game, it is the referee that decide on how long time added on to play. It is also the referee who signal to the fourth official how long to indicate to the crowd. So he's not disregarding the time the fourth official decided, cause it's his decision from the start. Now, whether there was any value reason(s) for him to add on extra time to which he orginally signaled to the fourth official is a different question. I've changed the language to be slightly less misleading. -- KTC 00:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
The article seems to make pretty sweeping statements about the correctness of Meier's decision to disallow Campbell's 'goal' in this game. Clealry I'm a biased England fan, but I watched the replay again and Terry seems to be making a genuine attempt to go for the ball and Ricardo just falls over. Is it really just us English that think it wasn't that clear cut a decision? Hammer Raccoon 00:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, you are right in saying that some of the article was subjective. It was also good that you left the part about how it was correct of Meier to remind the English that the game was part of an international tournament. Now the part which is slightly questionable is that you removed the sentence stating that Terry held Ricardo down. I think he did.(like you i am biased :) ) If it was an accident or Ricardo let himself fall we don't know. I agree to all your changes except the rv'ing of those two sentences.
I would recommend formulating it like this:
Television replays showed that Terry may have held Ricardo down but football fans generally agree that television replays were inconclusive. wwicki 16:39 UTC
Should the article not mention WHY his details were published? It seems a bit disjointed. The Romania-Denmark section mentions the goal that led to the incident but the England-Portugal section gives no context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.66.117 ( talk) 22:29, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
I Do't know if this makes any difference, but He was one of the two Refs in FIFA 06 BKLC11 ( talk) 05:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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Ah, that makes more sense. Good addition to the article. - Tεx τ urε 15:43, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Not the first time this ref has courted controversy. As well as the controversial decision in the Romania game, he had to be escorted off the pitch after giving Lyon a penalty against Celtic in the last few minutes of a Champion's League match last year, for a perceived handball offence. Mintguy (T) 11:18, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The mention of the Terry/Campbell foul in the England-Portugal game is rather silly, it was a pretty apparent obstruction of the goalkeeper within the five meter box and it was perfectly within the referee's jurisdiction to award a foul to the defending team. The laws of the game explicitely say how interference with the keeper is not legal, and there is in fact a reminder saying "it is an offence to restrict the movement of the goalkeeper by unfairly impeding him at the taking of a corner kick". Sure, the goal would probably have decided the game, but we can't blame the refs from doing their job just because it's a tight match. I'm sure Urs Meier has done much more obvious mistakes that would deserve a mention -- but this isn't one of them. --
Shallot 12:23, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I'm not going to bang on and say "we woz robbed" or anything, these things happen in football, but it was clearly a goal. This may be the explanation [1] Mintguy (T)
Was it a corner? I thought it was in open play, the ball bounced off the crossbar first anyway, there was no suspected offence when the ball was played into the 18-yard box.
Next to the disallowed goal the worst of his decisions was this - [3] where a free kick was awarded to Portugal. Shocking!!!
I think the "We was robbed" link at the bottom should be removed. It has absoloutly no educational use, and just highlights a group of English fans desperate for an excuse for the loss. That UEFA backed his decision shows he was right, so controversial or not, attacking him in this article because of that decision seems ridiculous. Grunners 20:48, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
and disregarded the extra time announced by the assistant, making it five minutes instead of two - That just complete rubbish language wise. Under the laws of the game, it is the referee that decide on how long time added on to play. It is also the referee who signal to the fourth official how long to indicate to the crowd. So he's not disregarding the time the fourth official decided, cause it's his decision from the start. Now, whether there was any value reason(s) for him to add on extra time to which he orginally signaled to the fourth official is a different question. I've changed the language to be slightly less misleading. -- KTC 00:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
The article seems to make pretty sweeping statements about the correctness of Meier's decision to disallow Campbell's 'goal' in this game. Clealry I'm a biased England fan, but I watched the replay again and Terry seems to be making a genuine attempt to go for the ball and Ricardo just falls over. Is it really just us English that think it wasn't that clear cut a decision? Hammer Raccoon 00:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, you are right in saying that some of the article was subjective. It was also good that you left the part about how it was correct of Meier to remind the English that the game was part of an international tournament. Now the part which is slightly questionable is that you removed the sentence stating that Terry held Ricardo down. I think he did.(like you i am biased :) ) If it was an accident or Ricardo let himself fall we don't know. I agree to all your changes except the rv'ing of those two sentences.
I would recommend formulating it like this:
Television replays showed that Terry may have held Ricardo down but football fans generally agree that television replays were inconclusive. wwicki 16:39 UTC
Should the article not mention WHY his details were published? It seems a bit disjointed. The Romania-Denmark section mentions the goal that led to the incident but the England-Portugal section gives no context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.66.117 ( talk) 22:29, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
I Do't know if this makes any difference, but He was one of the two Refs in FIFA 06 BKLC11 ( talk) 05:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC)