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"Urðarbrunnr is mentioned a second time in section 52 of Skáldskaparmál, this time in associated with Christ. The section states that early skalds once referred to Christ in relation to Urðarbrunnr and Rome, and quotes the late 10th century skald Eilífr Goðrúnarson, who states that "thus the powerful king of Rome increased his realm with lands of heath-land divinites [giants; i.e. heathen lands]" and that Christ is said to have his throne south of Urðarbrunnr."
Faulkes' exegesis:
I imagine you would find this book useful. After now having gone through the trouble of getting it from the library and typing in the above I suddenly remembered that it's actually available for download in a pdf version free of charge. Check it out! [2] Haukur ( talk) 11:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this is article is pretty close to being WP:GA level. One thing that I'd like to put up here is an image. I was considering this image to the right, but it's really low resolution and there's basically no information about it. If we can figure out what the work appears in, we might be able to pull it out of Google Books at a higher resolution. :bloodofox: ( talk) 19:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
(deindent) You mean Brate's version? As I said below the one I found didn't have these pictures. But there must be one that does (perhaps the one you saw in the museum). This article says: [3]
"Sander, Fredrik, Såmund den vises Edda. Skaldeverk af fornnordiska myt- och hjältesånger om de gotiska eller germanska folkens gamla gudatro, sagominnen och vandringar. Med bilder af nordiska konstnärer. Sth 1893. Illustrations reprinted with Erik Brate’s translation n.d.&pl. (Sth 1978): 20, 42-47."
But I can't find anything else about a 1978 reprint of Brate/Sander. Haukur ( talk) 06:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I hit the books and here's what I came up with: Brate's Edda does not actually seem to have reprinted those images, the edition I could find didn't have any images at all. A pity. But I did get to look at Sander's Edda and wow... That book is gorgeous. The image we're talking about is on page 7 - actually it covers the entire page 7. It would certainly be possible to get a much better scan than the one we have. Unfortunately I can't take the book home with me to scan.
The book contains information on the artists who made the pictures but unfortunately it just lists them all in one pile, it doesn't say who made what, so there's quite a bit of sleuthing necessary to find out. Here's the list of artists from the book with my attempts to identify them.
Listed separately:
Woodcuts by:
The woodcut of the Nornir is clearly marked "W. Meyer" so we have the xylographer but I don't know who made the original drawing. There are some squiggles there that might be the artist's signature but it'd require a careful study to find out.
Also worth mentioning: There are some images in the book that are not at Project Runeberg. Haukur ( talk) 10:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Looks like the full name is Carl Fredrik von Saltza. Haukur ( talk) 06:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Project continues at User:Haukurth/Sander's Edda. Haukur ( talk) 09:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I will be doing the GA review of this article, and I should have the full review up within a few hours. Dana boomer ( talk) 18:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Nice work! I am putting the article on hold to allow you time to address the few minor concerns I have raised above. If you have any questions, you can ask them here on the review page or on my talk page. Dana boomer ( talk) 19:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
After some brief googling I have only found a few occurences of the concept of Urðarbrunnr in modern culture. Some (or most) of them are not particularly notable compared to the common scale. Wyrd's Well Press, publisher of books on northern spirituality and heathenism, is perhaps the most notable one. The label Well of Urd was a sidelabel of the label Hammerheart and released a number of Hagalaz' Runedance's albums, and some of Hekate's. Both labels are now defunct and active as Karmageddon Media. The folk metal band named Boarsnout was formerly called both Urðarbrunnr and Well of Wyrd. One of Varg Vikernes' lyrics quotes J. S. Welhaven, where he speaks of the well, but I have not yet managed to find the ultimate source of this Welhaven quote, for all I know Vikernes could have made it up. Those artists don't reference their lyrics, for sure. Sagaspelet Lofotr 2008 hosted the saga play Ved Urdarbrunn (By the Urdarbrunn) by Nina E. Wester.
Surely bloodofox and others might have found these references already, but I thought I would leave a comment anyways. – Holt T• C 01:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
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Did you know?" column on
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Norse mythology,
Urðarbrunnr is an important well located beneath the world tree
Yggdrasil? |
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"Urðarbrunnr is mentioned a second time in section 52 of Skáldskaparmál, this time in associated with Christ. The section states that early skalds once referred to Christ in relation to Urðarbrunnr and Rome, and quotes the late 10th century skald Eilífr Goðrúnarson, who states that "thus the powerful king of Rome increased his realm with lands of heath-land divinites [giants; i.e. heathen lands]" and that Christ is said to have his throne south of Urðarbrunnr."
Faulkes' exegesis:
I imagine you would find this book useful. After now having gone through the trouble of getting it from the library and typing in the above I suddenly remembered that it's actually available for download in a pdf version free of charge. Check it out! [2] Haukur ( talk) 11:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this is article is pretty close to being WP:GA level. One thing that I'd like to put up here is an image. I was considering this image to the right, but it's really low resolution and there's basically no information about it. If we can figure out what the work appears in, we might be able to pull it out of Google Books at a higher resolution. :bloodofox: ( talk) 19:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
(deindent) You mean Brate's version? As I said below the one I found didn't have these pictures. But there must be one that does (perhaps the one you saw in the museum). This article says: [3]
"Sander, Fredrik, Såmund den vises Edda. Skaldeverk af fornnordiska myt- och hjältesånger om de gotiska eller germanska folkens gamla gudatro, sagominnen och vandringar. Med bilder af nordiska konstnärer. Sth 1893. Illustrations reprinted with Erik Brate’s translation n.d.&pl. (Sth 1978): 20, 42-47."
But I can't find anything else about a 1978 reprint of Brate/Sander. Haukur ( talk) 06:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I hit the books and here's what I came up with: Brate's Edda does not actually seem to have reprinted those images, the edition I could find didn't have any images at all. A pity. But I did get to look at Sander's Edda and wow... That book is gorgeous. The image we're talking about is on page 7 - actually it covers the entire page 7. It would certainly be possible to get a much better scan than the one we have. Unfortunately I can't take the book home with me to scan.
The book contains information on the artists who made the pictures but unfortunately it just lists them all in one pile, it doesn't say who made what, so there's quite a bit of sleuthing necessary to find out. Here's the list of artists from the book with my attempts to identify them.
Listed separately:
Woodcuts by:
The woodcut of the Nornir is clearly marked "W. Meyer" so we have the xylographer but I don't know who made the original drawing. There are some squiggles there that might be the artist's signature but it'd require a careful study to find out.
Also worth mentioning: There are some images in the book that are not at Project Runeberg. Haukur ( talk) 10:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Looks like the full name is Carl Fredrik von Saltza. Haukur ( talk) 06:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Project continues at User:Haukurth/Sander's Edda. Haukur ( talk) 09:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I will be doing the GA review of this article, and I should have the full review up within a few hours. Dana boomer ( talk) 18:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Nice work! I am putting the article on hold to allow you time to address the few minor concerns I have raised above. If you have any questions, you can ask them here on the review page or on my talk page. Dana boomer ( talk) 19:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
After some brief googling I have only found a few occurences of the concept of Urðarbrunnr in modern culture. Some (or most) of them are not particularly notable compared to the common scale. Wyrd's Well Press, publisher of books on northern spirituality and heathenism, is perhaps the most notable one. The label Well of Urd was a sidelabel of the label Hammerheart and released a number of Hagalaz' Runedance's albums, and some of Hekate's. Both labels are now defunct and active as Karmageddon Media. The folk metal band named Boarsnout was formerly called both Urðarbrunnr and Well of Wyrd. One of Varg Vikernes' lyrics quotes J. S. Welhaven, where he speaks of the well, but I have not yet managed to find the ultimate source of this Welhaven quote, for all I know Vikernes could have made it up. Those artists don't reference their lyrics, for sure. Sagaspelet Lofotr 2008 hosted the saga play Ved Urdarbrunn (By the Urdarbrunn) by Nina E. Wester.
Surely bloodofox and others might have found these references already, but I thought I would leave a comment anyways. – Holt T• C 01:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC)