This article reads like an advertisement brochure for the university. It might be helpful to also highlight the negative aspects of Uppsala University. How can these be best placed in the article? I'm thinking of:
- The university's past collaboration with the Swedish Institute of Race Biology
- The fact that recent independent studies have demonstrated systematic rigging of job advertisements at the university.
- That the university produced a bogus Science paper a few years ago, and chastised the whistleblower who raised the issue.
RMK16 ( talk) 23:28, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone know how extensive the article covers its topic? Are there important parts missing? Is there something on the To-Do list?
Fred- Chess 14:15, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Wopp ( talk) 13:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
The budget is 4.4 million SEK (roughly 440 thousand €)? For 20 000 students?? Must be a joke. The link to the source is also broken.
I removed this part of the University of Uppsala article for the following reasons:
Moreover:
Regards, Axt ( talk) 20:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, than we are going to have to officially agree to disagree ;-). I still think this is relevant for a newspaper website, but in no way for an encyclopaedia. I'm not even taking sides in the particular conflict, I just don't think it is worth being mentioned with more than one sentence. To put this incident in perspective again: it is an internal staff conflict of one department at one of tens of universities in one of around two hundred countries on earth. This minor conflict, although I see that it is important to some people like other mathematicians, does not influence the overall prestige of Uppsala and does not change the university in a notable way. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this isn't important, it's just not as important as you think it is, particular not in the context of an encyclopaedia. Wikipedia is not a news website, but aims to illustrate the major facts that concern the whole university over a considerable period of time and with a considerable future impact (in case of a university those are things like general history, departments, prestige, size, etc.). What you are writing about is like a single rice corn in a container load of rice, but you blow it out of proportion and you demand an extra container for that one rice corn instead of putting it where it belongs - with all the other rice corns in its appropriate size. I will therefore remove the section again and will be happy to discuss the move/reduction with you when you are back. Regards Axt ( talk) 11:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I understand. Sorry if it seemed like I wanted to delete your text, I just wanted to remove it until the future form and length of it is agreed upon. See you soon! Axt ( talk) 08:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Due to the media coverage, this definitely deserves to be in the article. I don't think the length is a concern, comparing it to the rest of the article. JeremyMcCracken ( talk) ( contribs) 03:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
We're going round in circles, in case you haven't noticed. I do not doubt that the incident was covered in local media at all. I think I have made my point clear several times now: I believe that it is an important issue, but that it is — in my view — disproportionately covered. The wikipedia article is about the university as a whole, and I think an internal disagreement is certainly worth mentioning in an encyclopaedia, but not in the way it is now. The University of Uppsala enjoys a rich history and great prestige world-wide, and this little incident won't change that. Nevertheless, I really do have more important things to do, and will let you do whatever you want to do with that section of the article. It's all yours from now on ;-). Cheers, Axt ( talk) 13:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
At the entrance of the Uppsala University main building is written "To think freely is great. To think right is greater". It is free to set the foundation of the University to either 1477 or 1593 (or maybe 1600). But what is right? If you choose 1477 it is not the oldest (Lund 1425), if you choose the latter we have to correct the foundation date. As all higher education ceased to exist in Scandinavia after the reformation, we have to decide if we can allow a university to be dormant and still set the foundation to the oldest date. 217.72.49.218 ( talk) 22:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
I see that this has changed recently; it appears to be very closely related to external content (on Oleg Viro's homepage, [9]), so I'm not sure whether this is compatible with WP:COPY, and may need some formatting touch-ups, but maybe somebody more familiar with the wider relevant issues would be willing to take a look? I'm sure it wouldn't take too much to tidy it up, but given the in-depth discussion above, I'd like to volunteer somebody else :) - Philtweir ( talk) 02:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
According to http://www.uu.se/Univ/blurb_swe.html, "Gratiae veritas naturae" means "The Truth of the Mercy and the Nature". It says different here. Any comments? -- 212.247.27.97 ( talk) 14:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
This section is written in a rather negative style WP:NPOV and probably too extensive. Perhaps it can be merged with "Student Life" describing students' accommodations? That it can be difficult for freshmen to find housing is not new (this was true also in 1992, I can dig up some UNT reference if needed), but neither is it unique to Uppsala. Also, the links to "housing" and "crisis" should be removed. MagnusPalmblad ( talk) 14:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Reading this section one would get the idea that students of Uppsala University abhor physical exercise, just because Swedish universities generally don't have collegiate sports teams. My impression is that the student body in Uppsala is very physically active, on average certainly more so than at any British or U.S. university I have visited or studied/worked at (and they are quite a few). There is no mentioning of activities such as football, floorball (innebandy) and other team sports in which a significant percentage of the students take part, including various tournaments. Overall, my impression when reading the entire article is that it is not NPOV. Does anybody else have any thoughts on this?
Ekonomikum isn't independently notable, but could be a useful section here. Boleyn ( talk) 16:51, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Merged as no objection within eight months. Boleyn ( talk) 07:00, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
especially shouldent women at the university be under ekonomikum (if it should be in the article at all) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.238.238.122 ( talk) 12:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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Bonadea, a WP:COI editor who by the user page works at UU, warns me against adding relevant material to the article on my user page, I received the warning while I was correcting per Boadea's statement that gender mainstreaming began in 2017. Bonadea, seeing as you are COI editor on this page, it would be best if you deleted the warning and instead discussed on this page instead of engaging in threatening behavior. A Thousand Words ( talk) 14:26, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
This article reads like an advertisement brochure for the university. It might be helpful to also highlight the negative aspects of Uppsala University. How can these be best placed in the article? I'm thinking of:
- The university's past collaboration with the Swedish Institute of Race Biology
- The fact that recent independent studies have demonstrated systematic rigging of job advertisements at the university.
- That the university produced a bogus Science paper a few years ago, and chastised the whistleblower who raised the issue.
RMK16 ( talk) 23:28, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone know how extensive the article covers its topic? Are there important parts missing? Is there something on the To-Do list?
Fred- Chess 14:15, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Wopp ( talk) 13:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
The budget is 4.4 million SEK (roughly 440 thousand €)? For 20 000 students?? Must be a joke. The link to the source is also broken.
I removed this part of the University of Uppsala article for the following reasons:
Moreover:
Regards, Axt ( talk) 20:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, than we are going to have to officially agree to disagree ;-). I still think this is relevant for a newspaper website, but in no way for an encyclopaedia. I'm not even taking sides in the particular conflict, I just don't think it is worth being mentioned with more than one sentence. To put this incident in perspective again: it is an internal staff conflict of one department at one of tens of universities in one of around two hundred countries on earth. This minor conflict, although I see that it is important to some people like other mathematicians, does not influence the overall prestige of Uppsala and does not change the university in a notable way. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this isn't important, it's just not as important as you think it is, particular not in the context of an encyclopaedia. Wikipedia is not a news website, but aims to illustrate the major facts that concern the whole university over a considerable period of time and with a considerable future impact (in case of a university those are things like general history, departments, prestige, size, etc.). What you are writing about is like a single rice corn in a container load of rice, but you blow it out of proportion and you demand an extra container for that one rice corn instead of putting it where it belongs - with all the other rice corns in its appropriate size. I will therefore remove the section again and will be happy to discuss the move/reduction with you when you are back. Regards Axt ( talk) 11:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I understand. Sorry if it seemed like I wanted to delete your text, I just wanted to remove it until the future form and length of it is agreed upon. See you soon! Axt ( talk) 08:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Due to the media coverage, this definitely deserves to be in the article. I don't think the length is a concern, comparing it to the rest of the article. JeremyMcCracken ( talk) ( contribs) 03:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
We're going round in circles, in case you haven't noticed. I do not doubt that the incident was covered in local media at all. I think I have made my point clear several times now: I believe that it is an important issue, but that it is — in my view — disproportionately covered. The wikipedia article is about the university as a whole, and I think an internal disagreement is certainly worth mentioning in an encyclopaedia, but not in the way it is now. The University of Uppsala enjoys a rich history and great prestige world-wide, and this little incident won't change that. Nevertheless, I really do have more important things to do, and will let you do whatever you want to do with that section of the article. It's all yours from now on ;-). Cheers, Axt ( talk) 13:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
At the entrance of the Uppsala University main building is written "To think freely is great. To think right is greater". It is free to set the foundation of the University to either 1477 or 1593 (or maybe 1600). But what is right? If you choose 1477 it is not the oldest (Lund 1425), if you choose the latter we have to correct the foundation date. As all higher education ceased to exist in Scandinavia after the reformation, we have to decide if we can allow a university to be dormant and still set the foundation to the oldest date. 217.72.49.218 ( talk) 22:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
I see that this has changed recently; it appears to be very closely related to external content (on Oleg Viro's homepage, [9]), so I'm not sure whether this is compatible with WP:COPY, and may need some formatting touch-ups, but maybe somebody more familiar with the wider relevant issues would be willing to take a look? I'm sure it wouldn't take too much to tidy it up, but given the in-depth discussion above, I'd like to volunteer somebody else :) - Philtweir ( talk) 02:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
According to http://www.uu.se/Univ/blurb_swe.html, "Gratiae veritas naturae" means "The Truth of the Mercy and the Nature". It says different here. Any comments? -- 212.247.27.97 ( talk) 14:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
This section is written in a rather negative style WP:NPOV and probably too extensive. Perhaps it can be merged with "Student Life" describing students' accommodations? That it can be difficult for freshmen to find housing is not new (this was true also in 1992, I can dig up some UNT reference if needed), but neither is it unique to Uppsala. Also, the links to "housing" and "crisis" should be removed. MagnusPalmblad ( talk) 14:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Reading this section one would get the idea that students of Uppsala University abhor physical exercise, just because Swedish universities generally don't have collegiate sports teams. My impression is that the student body in Uppsala is very physically active, on average certainly more so than at any British or U.S. university I have visited or studied/worked at (and they are quite a few). There is no mentioning of activities such as football, floorball (innebandy) and other team sports in which a significant percentage of the students take part, including various tournaments. Overall, my impression when reading the entire article is that it is not NPOV. Does anybody else have any thoughts on this?
Ekonomikum isn't independently notable, but could be a useful section here. Boleyn ( talk) 16:51, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Merged as no objection within eight months. Boleyn ( talk) 07:00, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
especially shouldent women at the university be under ekonomikum (if it should be in the article at all) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.238.238.122 ( talk) 12:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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Bonadea, a WP:COI editor who by the user page works at UU, warns me against adding relevant material to the article on my user page, I received the warning while I was correcting per Boadea's statement that gender mainstreaming began in 2017. Bonadea, seeing as you are COI editor on this page, it would be best if you deleted the warning and instead discussed on this page instead of engaging in threatening behavior. A Thousand Words ( talk) 14:26, 10 January 2021 (UTC)