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I'm thinking this page probably needs some expansion. I'll get on it eventually, but feel free to help! CriminalSaint 01:43, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I think the entire History section is just taken from the University's own webpage. Probably should be paraphrased. I added two photos I took while visiting the campus recently too. -- Mikerussell 04:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Who wrote the first paragraph of the reputation section? The bias is terrible. How should we fix this? (Currently a Windsor student) -- unsigned comment was posted at 23:39, 7 March 2007 by anonymous user at 24.57.16.53
This whole page seems to be quite pro-Windsor, and although I'm sure we are all proud of our university, let's be a little levelheaded here. The bias seeps through. -- unsigned comment was posted at 16:56, 2007 March 16 by anonymous user at 72.38.232.164
In addition, all the pictures seem to be Photoshopped with a dramatically increased Brightness and the Hue/Saturation cranked up. I've been on campus daily for six years and seen nothing like this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.232.27 ( talk) 06:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
The first addition needs to be the endowment. Not listing it at all is far worse than listing a modest sum. Windsor's bane has been its inability to cope with the truth of its state of affairs. If it could do this well, it could flourish 'to greater heights' more easily, as it were haha.
This whole section sounds apologetic and defending of the university rather than presenting the facts. There is no mention of the Maclean's rating. Except for the mention on the Gourman Report, the section is merely an explanation on what rankings are and how to interpret them. Myself being an alumnus I must say that this is clearly in violation of NPOV. SWik78 ( talk) 14:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed. Wikipedia:Verifiability is one of Wikipedia's core content policies.
Could we try to find reliable sources to back up unreferenced material in this article?
Collegestandard ( talk) 17:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
For some time now there has been a war of edits adding and removing a section under Residence Life relating to a November 2009 through January 2010 string of peeping tom incidents. It was reported by CBC, "A" Channel and the Windsor star that on three occassions a "peeping tom" spied on female residents of Electa Hall (once in each of Nov. '09, Dec. '09 and Jan. '10). Residence Services never informed the residents of the previous incidents and, following the third incident, students went to the media complaining that they were not informed and thus not protected after the first and second incident. University President Alan Wildeman had to step in and personally took control of the situation and ordered an offical report into the incident which is referenced in the edit. While this may not be a flattering event for Residence Service, it is nonetheless worthy of being a part of the Residence Life section. An event that angered students, created a media frenzy, involved the President of the University and led to a damaging report against both Residence Services and Campus Community Police is a noteworthy event. I think it needs to stop being edited out which is clearly being done to remove a negative event from the University's wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.31.127 ( talk) 07:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe that the incident is newsworthy but not significant in an encyclopedic world. There are many incidences at Residences all over the world. Reviewing other articles of Universities/Colleges would reveal that incidences or news articles are generally not included in the article. The person that keeps posting the information should contact the University directly in order to seek more information and include the information in a news blog. This section also lacks a NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.207.210.60 ( talk) 15:55, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: Nikkimaria ( talk) 04:11, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey there. I'll be reviewing this article for potential GA status. Cheers, Nikkimaria ( talk) 04:11, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I think it would be appropriate to add the university's core research interests in the opening paragraph. There should also be a new section called 'Research' that could go into some detail on the stated research goals of the university ( http://www.uwindsor.ca/vp-research/). As for a reputation section, I believe a listing of the schools ranking from, for example, Macleans is unnecessary, as Windsor and other universities in Canada have challenged the methodology of these ranking, which is also particularly unnecessary in a country with a publicly funded university system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.53.227 ( talk) 05:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe more needs to be added in regards to the rich variety of campus Media outlets. Maybe an overview of CJAM and campus newspapers such as The Issue and the rivalry between The Lance and the Student Movement.
Kbtownsend ( talk) 00:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
A user removed the old U of W logo today and has had his/her edit reverted twice (once by me), but I can now confirm that there is a new logo for the University. There was blurb about it in the alumni newsletter that I received this afternoon. PK T(alk) 21:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
The campus section is in need of expansion and is outdated. UWindsor has recently undergone a series of campus expansions establishing satellite campuses. Also the student pub in the basement of CAW Student centre has not been in operation for years. It is being renovated and into a new book store For example: http://www1.uwindsor.ca/downtown/ ACanadianToker ( talk) 19:21, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
@ Leventio: and @ Mitchell443: - if the current state of the article is acceptable; great. Please stop flicking back and forth in a slow-moving edit war, because it is not acceptable. If you want to continue debating how to best show U of W's origins, please do it here. PK T(alk) 00:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
@ PKT: Thank you. Can you please help solve the origins of the University of Windsor? The history suggests UW was created by the BOG of Assumption.
"A petition was made to the Province of Ontario for the creation of a non-denominational University of Windsor by the board of governors and regents of Assumption University and the board of directors of Essex College.[13] The University of Windsor came into existence through its incorporation under an Act of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario on December 19, 1962. The transition from an historic Roman Catholic university to a non-denominational provincial university was an unprecedented development"
Leventio disagrees about the history.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchell443 ( talk • contribs) 20:03, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Mitchell443: Look I'd rather not get in an edit war, and rather if we discussed it here (as opposed to edit summaries and broken chat threads in talk pages. In saying that, my point is that the University of Windsor never bore the name Assumption College since it was established in December 1962 (the institution was incorporated on that year as University of Windsor), and it is improper to place that in the former names parameter. In saying that, the university does trace its origins, and has a shared history with Assumption College/University; which was why I added a note to note said historic lineage. However, as they are technically NOT the same institution (made clear by provincial legislation, regardless that the impetus of the legislation being Assumption's BoG, its provincial legislation makes it clear they are separate), the original point stands that use of the "former name" parameter is completely improper for this situation (especially when Assumption College still exists as a federated institution).
This is the case with all other "new" universities with historic lineages to older institutions (see all of University of Paris descendants, McMaster University, whose origins may be traced to Woodstock College, though the date of establishment used is the date it was incorporated as McMaster). Similarily we do not trace the origins of a larger institution to its oldest component (see University of Guelph and the Ontario Agriculture College). With regards to UofT, UofT was incorporated as King`s College (University College is a federated institution established later).
This is reflected in the university`s own retelling of its history, from
your source it makes clear the federated relations, on December 19, 1962, the University of Windsor was incorporated by the Ontario Legislature, accepting Assumption University in Federation.
And this is further stated on the webpage that links its
governing legislation. 01:00, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Leventio: I posted an excerpt below that should help clarify. My point is that Assumption College then University became UW. UW and Assumption are inherently linked more than you have suggested. It seems that they simply changed their name. However, Assumption University still exists but in a theological capacity rather than as an entire university organization as it once was. I see your point about UW being created separately, but Assumption University created UW to take on the non-denominational capacity while leaving itself as an autonomous institution for theological studies. I think the confusion lies in attempting to discern the objective. Yes UW was formed to be separate, but it was also formed to take over existing Assumption university duties. UW still brands itself as founded in 1857, clothing, merchandise, etc., yet acknowledges the start of the official UW in 1963.
Here is the excerpt.
The University of Windsor in WINDSOR, Ont, was founded in 1963. The university began as Assumption College, founded in 1857 by Reverend Pierre Point (pastor of Assumption Parish) to provide a liberal education. In 1858 it received its charter. It was directed by various Catholic religious orders until 1919, and its curriculum consisted of courses primarily designed to prepare students for theological seminaries. It was affiliated with London's Western University (UNIVERSITY OF WESTERN ONTARIO) from 1919 until 1953. In 1956 it became Assumption University, and affiliated with the non-denominational Essex College which provided courses in science, mathematics, physics, geology, nursing, and business administration. Holy Names College for women, which had moved to the campus in 1950, merged with Assumption University in 1962.
"Also in 1962, Assumption University became the University of Windsor and was incorporated by the province." In 1963 and 1964 affiliation agreements were made with Holy Redeemer College, Canterbury College (Anglican) and Iona College (United Church). https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/university-of-windsor Mitchell443 ( talk) 04:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Leventio: I agree with the date of establishment change. The alternative proposal would be a good idea if no one else intervenes on this matter. We could change it for now and see what happens. Mitchell443 ( talk) 14:27, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
I propose merging University of Windsor Students' Alliance into University of Windsor. I think the content in University of Windsor Students' Alliance can easily be explained in the context of University of Windsor, and a merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in University of Windsor. Additionally, other undergraduate student associations with minimal content, such as Laurentian's Students' General Association, University of Waterloo Student Association, and Wilfrid Laurier University Students' Union are included on their university's pages. If this association ends up garnering enough encyclopedic content, we can revisit creating a standalone page. RoyalObserver ( talk) 10:24, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
The contents of the University of Windsor Students' Alliance page were merged into University of Windsor on 21 April 2022. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
University of Windsor was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | ||||||||||
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This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I'm thinking this page probably needs some expansion. I'll get on it eventually, but feel free to help! CriminalSaint 01:43, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I think the entire History section is just taken from the University's own webpage. Probably should be paraphrased. I added two photos I took while visiting the campus recently too. -- Mikerussell 04:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Who wrote the first paragraph of the reputation section? The bias is terrible. How should we fix this? (Currently a Windsor student) -- unsigned comment was posted at 23:39, 7 March 2007 by anonymous user at 24.57.16.53
This whole page seems to be quite pro-Windsor, and although I'm sure we are all proud of our university, let's be a little levelheaded here. The bias seeps through. -- unsigned comment was posted at 16:56, 2007 March 16 by anonymous user at 72.38.232.164
In addition, all the pictures seem to be Photoshopped with a dramatically increased Brightness and the Hue/Saturation cranked up. I've been on campus daily for six years and seen nothing like this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.232.27 ( talk) 06:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
The first addition needs to be the endowment. Not listing it at all is far worse than listing a modest sum. Windsor's bane has been its inability to cope with the truth of its state of affairs. If it could do this well, it could flourish 'to greater heights' more easily, as it were haha.
This whole section sounds apologetic and defending of the university rather than presenting the facts. There is no mention of the Maclean's rating. Except for the mention on the Gourman Report, the section is merely an explanation on what rankings are and how to interpret them. Myself being an alumnus I must say that this is clearly in violation of NPOV. SWik78 ( talk) 14:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed. Wikipedia:Verifiability is one of Wikipedia's core content policies.
Could we try to find reliable sources to back up unreferenced material in this article?
Collegestandard ( talk) 17:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
For some time now there has been a war of edits adding and removing a section under Residence Life relating to a November 2009 through January 2010 string of peeping tom incidents. It was reported by CBC, "A" Channel and the Windsor star that on three occassions a "peeping tom" spied on female residents of Electa Hall (once in each of Nov. '09, Dec. '09 and Jan. '10). Residence Services never informed the residents of the previous incidents and, following the third incident, students went to the media complaining that they were not informed and thus not protected after the first and second incident. University President Alan Wildeman had to step in and personally took control of the situation and ordered an offical report into the incident which is referenced in the edit. While this may not be a flattering event for Residence Service, it is nonetheless worthy of being a part of the Residence Life section. An event that angered students, created a media frenzy, involved the President of the University and led to a damaging report against both Residence Services and Campus Community Police is a noteworthy event. I think it needs to stop being edited out which is clearly being done to remove a negative event from the University's wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.31.127 ( talk) 07:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe that the incident is newsworthy but not significant in an encyclopedic world. There are many incidences at Residences all over the world. Reviewing other articles of Universities/Colleges would reveal that incidences or news articles are generally not included in the article. The person that keeps posting the information should contact the University directly in order to seek more information and include the information in a news blog. This section also lacks a NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.207.210.60 ( talk) 15:55, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: Nikkimaria ( talk) 04:11, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey there. I'll be reviewing this article for potential GA status. Cheers, Nikkimaria ( talk) 04:11, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I think it would be appropriate to add the university's core research interests in the opening paragraph. There should also be a new section called 'Research' that could go into some detail on the stated research goals of the university ( http://www.uwindsor.ca/vp-research/). As for a reputation section, I believe a listing of the schools ranking from, for example, Macleans is unnecessary, as Windsor and other universities in Canada have challenged the methodology of these ranking, which is also particularly unnecessary in a country with a publicly funded university system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.53.227 ( talk) 05:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe more needs to be added in regards to the rich variety of campus Media outlets. Maybe an overview of CJAM and campus newspapers such as The Issue and the rivalry between The Lance and the Student Movement.
Kbtownsend ( talk) 00:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
A user removed the old U of W logo today and has had his/her edit reverted twice (once by me), but I can now confirm that there is a new logo for the University. There was blurb about it in the alumni newsletter that I received this afternoon. PK T(alk) 21:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
The campus section is in need of expansion and is outdated. UWindsor has recently undergone a series of campus expansions establishing satellite campuses. Also the student pub in the basement of CAW Student centre has not been in operation for years. It is being renovated and into a new book store For example: http://www1.uwindsor.ca/downtown/ ACanadianToker ( talk) 19:21, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
@ Leventio: and @ Mitchell443: - if the current state of the article is acceptable; great. Please stop flicking back and forth in a slow-moving edit war, because it is not acceptable. If you want to continue debating how to best show U of W's origins, please do it here. PK T(alk) 00:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
@ PKT: Thank you. Can you please help solve the origins of the University of Windsor? The history suggests UW was created by the BOG of Assumption.
"A petition was made to the Province of Ontario for the creation of a non-denominational University of Windsor by the board of governors and regents of Assumption University and the board of directors of Essex College.[13] The University of Windsor came into existence through its incorporation under an Act of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario on December 19, 1962. The transition from an historic Roman Catholic university to a non-denominational provincial university was an unprecedented development"
Leventio disagrees about the history.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchell443 ( talk • contribs) 20:03, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Mitchell443: Look I'd rather not get in an edit war, and rather if we discussed it here (as opposed to edit summaries and broken chat threads in talk pages. In saying that, my point is that the University of Windsor never bore the name Assumption College since it was established in December 1962 (the institution was incorporated on that year as University of Windsor), and it is improper to place that in the former names parameter. In saying that, the university does trace its origins, and has a shared history with Assumption College/University; which was why I added a note to note said historic lineage. However, as they are technically NOT the same institution (made clear by provincial legislation, regardless that the impetus of the legislation being Assumption's BoG, its provincial legislation makes it clear they are separate), the original point stands that use of the "former name" parameter is completely improper for this situation (especially when Assumption College still exists as a federated institution).
This is the case with all other "new" universities with historic lineages to older institutions (see all of University of Paris descendants, McMaster University, whose origins may be traced to Woodstock College, though the date of establishment used is the date it was incorporated as McMaster). Similarily we do not trace the origins of a larger institution to its oldest component (see University of Guelph and the Ontario Agriculture College). With regards to UofT, UofT was incorporated as King`s College (University College is a federated institution established later).
This is reflected in the university`s own retelling of its history, from
your source it makes clear the federated relations, on December 19, 1962, the University of Windsor was incorporated by the Ontario Legislature, accepting Assumption University in Federation.
And this is further stated on the webpage that links its
governing legislation. 01:00, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Leventio: I posted an excerpt below that should help clarify. My point is that Assumption College then University became UW. UW and Assumption are inherently linked more than you have suggested. It seems that they simply changed their name. However, Assumption University still exists but in a theological capacity rather than as an entire university organization as it once was. I see your point about UW being created separately, but Assumption University created UW to take on the non-denominational capacity while leaving itself as an autonomous institution for theological studies. I think the confusion lies in attempting to discern the objective. Yes UW was formed to be separate, but it was also formed to take over existing Assumption university duties. UW still brands itself as founded in 1857, clothing, merchandise, etc., yet acknowledges the start of the official UW in 1963.
Here is the excerpt.
The University of Windsor in WINDSOR, Ont, was founded in 1963. The university began as Assumption College, founded in 1857 by Reverend Pierre Point (pastor of Assumption Parish) to provide a liberal education. In 1858 it received its charter. It was directed by various Catholic religious orders until 1919, and its curriculum consisted of courses primarily designed to prepare students for theological seminaries. It was affiliated with London's Western University (UNIVERSITY OF WESTERN ONTARIO) from 1919 until 1953. In 1956 it became Assumption University, and affiliated with the non-denominational Essex College which provided courses in science, mathematics, physics, geology, nursing, and business administration. Holy Names College for women, which had moved to the campus in 1950, merged with Assumption University in 1962.
"Also in 1962, Assumption University became the University of Windsor and was incorporated by the province." In 1963 and 1964 affiliation agreements were made with Holy Redeemer College, Canterbury College (Anglican) and Iona College (United Church). https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/university-of-windsor Mitchell443 ( talk) 04:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Leventio: I agree with the date of establishment change. The alternative proposal would be a good idea if no one else intervenes on this matter. We could change it for now and see what happens. Mitchell443 ( talk) 14:27, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
I propose merging University of Windsor Students' Alliance into University of Windsor. I think the content in University of Windsor Students' Alliance can easily be explained in the context of University of Windsor, and a merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in University of Windsor. Additionally, other undergraduate student associations with minimal content, such as Laurentian's Students' General Association, University of Waterloo Student Association, and Wilfrid Laurier University Students' Union are included on their university's pages. If this association ends up garnering enough encyclopedic content, we can revisit creating a standalone page. RoyalObserver ( talk) 10:24, 7 April 2022 (UTC)