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Some seem to think that the pictures of the new developments aren't necessary. I think they are visually appealing and give readers a look at what's ahead at Berkeley. They will be changed once construction is complete. - ckoala84 1/2/2006
The "Cal" logo is the logo for the Spirit Committee, not the school. It is used for spirit and sporting events, not for academics or any other general function of the University. The references to the university as "Cal" throughout the article should probably be changed too. If the logo belongs anywhere, it is in the "Sports and traditions" section. Moreover the placement at the top of the article being attempted by Ckoala84 ( User talk:Ckoala84) looks really bad. I have moved it back to where it was for months before the anon user came along. Please don't return it to the top of the article without some support from other editors. Mike Dillon 22:34, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I oppose the use of the wurster image in the article. Although it has SOME relevance, it crowds the page and is extremely unattractive. If it were to be relevant to the text, it should be placed where the Wheeler image is now, and I feel that would be a mistake. Ckoala84 1:36, 16 January 2006 (UTC).
I made a few large scale changes in the beginning of the section (complete rewording, moved a paragraph). Hope it helps with the flow. I'm still unhappy about the large amount of small paragraphs. Perhaps I'll tackle that at a later time. Arcimpulse 02:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
The article mentions that Stanford students come and paint the Big C red. Can someone actually cite this? I have heard that the Cal Band is the one that actually paints it red, and Rally Comm paints it yellow again. kaisenl
I added a part called "Setting" to describe the physical environment and added a link to the 2020 landscape plan. Hank chapot 04:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
hi, this article should have the racial make up of the undergraduate, graduate, or total student population. where can i find that?-- Muchosucko 23:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I have a booklet from the UC system which gives them to me, I'd be happy to list them on the article. -- Patman2648 23:48 6 April 2006
This data is old. We need current 2006 stats. Hechung 21:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC) Hechung
I've searched for more than half an hour on google and can't find any source for the following paragraph other than a few words on Eldridge Cleaver teaching a course:
"1968-69 saw thousands of police and National Guard on campus. Police from over a dozen states were present, some as young as sixteen. Ronald Reagan, who as governor of California was head regent, confronted Eldridge Cleaver's attempt to teach the first Black Studies class. Police used pepper gas on the main shopping street, even when there were no demonstrations. Thousands of police encircled campus, herded everyone under the camera, then started beating."
I've deleted the paragraph, but if anybody out there can find a source, then by all means put it back in. Arcimpulse 06:33, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
The ASUC article needs work, anyone here care to look at it? — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-26 10:38Z
See also: BEARcade ( AfD discussion) — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-26 10:47Z
"When Cleaver was asked to speak at the University of California at Berkeley, then-Gov. Ronald Reagan expressed outrage. // "If Eldridge Cleaver is allowed to teach our children, they may come home one night and slit our throats," Reagan said.": http://www.cnn.com/US/9805/01/cleaver.late.obit/
I created a template for UC Berkeley, but I've already had a couple of commentors say that it is too large. One suggestion was for sub-templates, but I have no idea how to implement that. Any other ideas for improvement? My inspiration was the articles for University of Michigan and Michigan State University, both of which have become featured articles. Arcimpulse 01:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
At 61 kb, this article is gigantic. I'm going to start seeing if I can pare down the Sports and Tradition section. I think the other sections are fine with the exception of the Campus architecture and architects. It seems in dire need of a subpage. Arcimpulse 06:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
The article says, "99% of 2005 entering freshmen were in the top 10% of their high school class and took, on average, 12 Advanced Placement courses." The last statistic seems almost impossible. I think I may remove it if no one provides evidence for it..
Still, 12 AP courses is absolutely ridiculous. Most California public schools don't even OFFER 12 AP courses.
Isn't there documentation for this? Please supply. Hechung 23:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, what if the "12 Advanced Placement" courses refer to 12 semesters worth of AP classes. As far as I know, my school district counts each year long AP class as two "AP courses" for the sake of organization.-- Lrd1rocha 03:13, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
i think that it goes as 1 ap class = 2 semesters counted on that statistic? Which would mean its on average 6 AP classes, which is much more reasonable (although still alot) 68.121.111.184 05:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I went through and reorganized the article. I'm hoping we can get this thing up to Feature Article level! My main goal in editing was to organize it more logically/hierarchially and generally pare down the article by giving oversized sections their own articles. When I started the article was 57 kb; now it's a more svelte 43 kb. I tried not to step on too many toes, though personally I'm still a bit embarrassed by the rampant boasting. (Folks, people know that Berkeley is prestigious; ya don't have to belabor the point! Be secure in its prestige!) I know quoting rankings are a fact of life with university entries, so hopefully giving them their own section will help contain 'em.
It'd be really nice if someone went through and rewrote the student life section, especially student groups, so that it reads more like one section (i.e., with a point) instead of a dozen scraps duct-taped together. Also, the admissions subsection could probably be summarized in a single sentence somewhere else, along the lines of "Berkeley's undergraduate admissions rate is… with an average GPA/SAT I of…", but I didn't feel like doing that tonight. — Gku 11:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
The contributions to computer science section seems oddly out of place. Mostly, because it highlights a single department, leaving the impression that is Berkeley's main claim to fame. That's not really so, as a glance at the Nobel laureates shows: 7 chemistry, 7 physics, 4 economics. It's not that the CS stuff shouldn't be there; they were huge in that. Rather, it's the placement. Maybe there ought to be a separate main section on research breakthroughs at Berkeley. That's also important because Berkeley's extraordinary international reputation is based on the research, which is really mentioned only in passing (other than CS). Without that research tradition, Berkeley would be just yet another of a couple hundred big state schools. JasonKitrick 01:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Concerning the nobel laureates, it is quite normal that there is no computer science nobel laureate in berkeley, because this award does not exist. If you want to compare numbers, compute the number of turing award, that is the highest award in computer science -- yoann padioleau
Fuzzy logic is missing from the list of contributions to CS.
Lotfi Zadeh created it while at Berkeley. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
134.226.1.62 (
talk •
contribs) 22:58, 12 November 2006
I noticed there was no talk section for it. I'd like here the idea in full before I make a comment. -- Falcorian (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
As a Berkeley CS student, I know for a fact that the AI people don't "talk about him constantly for this work". In fact, the AI people greatly dislike Searle, since after all he basically said that AI research is pointless, since no matter how good it is, it's not true intelligence. (Not his exact words, but that's the general sentiment you get when you read the Chinese Room argument.)
Also, the Chinese Room most certainly isn't a contribution to CS. I've read the paper. The whole argument is based on philosophical issues and an assumption that we (or rather philosophers) understand what it means to "understand", which, as a scientist, I do not believe is true. The paper provides no real result that is useful to computer science. Granted, it's thought provoking, but thought provoking for the sake of provoking thoughts, while good in the humanities, has no place in the sciences. Compare this with Alan Turing's 1950 paper "Computing Machinery and Intelligence", which laid the groundwork for what we know of today as the Turing Test. Most importantly, there is NO RESEARCH nor SOFTWARE nor ANYTHING AT ALL that is based on the Chinese Room. In short, the Chinese Room is a dead end.
Finally, the Chinese Room is controversial. Yes, it's useless, but controversial. There are many computer scientists who will jump at the chance to tear apart the Chinese Room argument because they think it's utter trash, and by the same token, there are many philosophers who will defend the Chinese Room argument based on the philosopher's (non-scientific) understanding of "understanding". And then there are computer scientists who just dismiss the Chinese Room argument's importance to Computer Science. Because it isn't important at all.
If you keep the reference to Searle in the CS section, you are pretty much guaranteeing this article an NPOV violation due to the controversy of the Chinese Room argument. This is not a threat. It's simply a statement of something that is true.
I'm not saying Searle doesn't belong on this page. I'm just simply saying he doesn't belong under the CS section of the page. And he sure as hell hasn't contributed anything to computer science. Viltris 08:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Could anyone write a small piece on their new service which brings their courses into iTunes and into anyone's computers? http://itunes.berkeley.edu/
I know it may irk people from other UC campuses when the UC Berkeley is referred to as Cal, etc., but the fact is that these are registered trademarks of the university and exist as common names for the school. I don't see why it offends people that the school is referred to as Cal.
Would someone with some Berkeley knowledge please head over to Transportation Library, UC Berkeley and do some cleaning up of that article? I know nothing about the library and it really reads like a fact sheet more than an article (like, for example, the library hours were in it before I removed it). If anyone can help, that'd be great. I also wonder if anyone thinks it really deserves an article (I don't see an article on any other library other than the main library article. Metros232 11:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
There is a claim under the Student Groups section that "Today, a substantial majority of students at the campus oppose Affirmative Action." Where is this claim substantiated? In fact, ASUC Senator Van Nguyen was just elected with a large popular vote on a platform centered on Affirmative Action. Joshlmay 01:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I do not think this qualifies for fair use, as the picture is relatively new (compared to the age of the hall) and it therefore seems that a new picture of it can be easily taken. Or, a PD Old image can probably be located (I think the library has one), in which case it's a moot point. -- Falcorian (talk) 17:54, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
" and the University has managed the nation's two principal nuclear weapons labs (now also used for more peaceful research) at Livermore and Los Alamos ever since. " Recently there was a change in management. Isn't Los Alamos now managed by consortium of UC and Bechtel and others? Or is that Livermore? Also, UC manages Lawrence Berk Nat Lab, but this is not mentioned. -- GangofOne 20:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I started a naming section to explain the different variations and to get rid of the grating at Berkeley misattribution in the intro line. So far the only verification is from the OMMT, so feel free to alter, move or flesh out the section. ~ trialsanderrors 23:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm posting this survey request Talk:University of California, Riverside#UCR Survey on all the UC talk pages in order to gather outside opinion on ongoing issues concerning the POV of this article. Please read the article and add your insights to the survey to help us identify any points of consensus in the UCR article. Thanks-- Amerique 21:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, I noticed one of my pictures was used for the article, and I have to admit that it doesn't look too good. I'll try to get a better version of the file. Also, I created a table for the Chancellor's list, but it might not fit with the rest of the article (style), so feel free to revert to the original simple listing.- Lrd1rocha 04:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I uploaded an image which could be used as Cal's logo in the infobox. But the image does not want to appear, at least not for me. Does anyone else want to try to put the logo in? 10:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
This sentence from the lead seems like a bit of an afterthought: "But Berkeley faculty have a no less distinguished record in fields outside the sciences as well." Perhaps we can add something to this by considering other awards, such as the Fields_medal awarded every four years to the best young mathematicician? Four winners (out of 44, since 1936 when the award was first given)were affiliated with Berkeley
Especially given that the award is given for work done before the age of 40, most recipients recieve this award for work that they did during their PhD or shortly thereafter.
Similarly, in other areas, one mark of distinction is to be awarded a grant from the James_S._McDonnell_Foundation. Nine Berkeley faculty members have recieved one of these grants. Wayne Getz: http://www.jsmf.org/grants/cs/awards_2003.htm Mimi Koehl: http://www.jsmf.org/grants/bmb/collaborative_awards_2002.htm http://www.jsmf.org/grants/search-archive.php?general=Berkeley (7 archived) Perhaps there is some non-braggy way to include this information in place of the current sentence? Edhubbard 09:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
How did this end up as third section in the article? I'm sure it is relevant, but why is it considered more relevant than Berkeley's scientific, administrative, architectural or athletic history, just to name a couple? Also, the last sentence, "To learn more about ROTC's history at UC Berkeley, visit Hearst Gymnasium's first-floor exhibits, which showcase historical photographs and memorabilia — including ship's wheels and antique machine guns", makes me wonder if the reason behind this insertion isn't POV pushing. ~ trialsanderrors 16:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
This is taken directly from the Berkeley Editorial Style Guide and should be enforced in articles on UC Berkeley. ~ trialsanderrors 09:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Source: http://identity.berkeley.edu/downloads/ucb_editorial_style.pdf *
"However, introductory classes consisting of hundreds of students are not unusual, and some Berkeley professors are criticized for being more interested in research than in undergraduate teaching."
I'd like to see a citation for the second part of the sentence. -- Kyledavid80 00:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 |
Some seem to think that the pictures of the new developments aren't necessary. I think they are visually appealing and give readers a look at what's ahead at Berkeley. They will be changed once construction is complete. - ckoala84 1/2/2006
The "Cal" logo is the logo for the Spirit Committee, not the school. It is used for spirit and sporting events, not for academics or any other general function of the University. The references to the university as "Cal" throughout the article should probably be changed too. If the logo belongs anywhere, it is in the "Sports and traditions" section. Moreover the placement at the top of the article being attempted by Ckoala84 ( User talk:Ckoala84) looks really bad. I have moved it back to where it was for months before the anon user came along. Please don't return it to the top of the article without some support from other editors. Mike Dillon 22:34, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I oppose the use of the wurster image in the article. Although it has SOME relevance, it crowds the page and is extremely unattractive. If it were to be relevant to the text, it should be placed where the Wheeler image is now, and I feel that would be a mistake. Ckoala84 1:36, 16 January 2006 (UTC).
I made a few large scale changes in the beginning of the section (complete rewording, moved a paragraph). Hope it helps with the flow. I'm still unhappy about the large amount of small paragraphs. Perhaps I'll tackle that at a later time. Arcimpulse 02:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
The article mentions that Stanford students come and paint the Big C red. Can someone actually cite this? I have heard that the Cal Band is the one that actually paints it red, and Rally Comm paints it yellow again. kaisenl
I added a part called "Setting" to describe the physical environment and added a link to the 2020 landscape plan. Hank chapot 04:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
hi, this article should have the racial make up of the undergraduate, graduate, or total student population. where can i find that?-- Muchosucko 23:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I have a booklet from the UC system which gives them to me, I'd be happy to list them on the article. -- Patman2648 23:48 6 April 2006
This data is old. We need current 2006 stats. Hechung 21:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC) Hechung
I've searched for more than half an hour on google and can't find any source for the following paragraph other than a few words on Eldridge Cleaver teaching a course:
"1968-69 saw thousands of police and National Guard on campus. Police from over a dozen states were present, some as young as sixteen. Ronald Reagan, who as governor of California was head regent, confronted Eldridge Cleaver's attempt to teach the first Black Studies class. Police used pepper gas on the main shopping street, even when there were no demonstrations. Thousands of police encircled campus, herded everyone under the camera, then started beating."
I've deleted the paragraph, but if anybody out there can find a source, then by all means put it back in. Arcimpulse 06:33, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
The ASUC article needs work, anyone here care to look at it? — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-26 10:38Z
See also: BEARcade ( AfD discussion) — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-26 10:47Z
"When Cleaver was asked to speak at the University of California at Berkeley, then-Gov. Ronald Reagan expressed outrage. // "If Eldridge Cleaver is allowed to teach our children, they may come home one night and slit our throats," Reagan said.": http://www.cnn.com/US/9805/01/cleaver.late.obit/
I created a template for UC Berkeley, but I've already had a couple of commentors say that it is too large. One suggestion was for sub-templates, but I have no idea how to implement that. Any other ideas for improvement? My inspiration was the articles for University of Michigan and Michigan State University, both of which have become featured articles. Arcimpulse 01:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
At 61 kb, this article is gigantic. I'm going to start seeing if I can pare down the Sports and Tradition section. I think the other sections are fine with the exception of the Campus architecture and architects. It seems in dire need of a subpage. Arcimpulse 06:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
The article says, "99% of 2005 entering freshmen were in the top 10% of their high school class and took, on average, 12 Advanced Placement courses." The last statistic seems almost impossible. I think I may remove it if no one provides evidence for it..
Still, 12 AP courses is absolutely ridiculous. Most California public schools don't even OFFER 12 AP courses.
Isn't there documentation for this? Please supply. Hechung 23:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, what if the "12 Advanced Placement" courses refer to 12 semesters worth of AP classes. As far as I know, my school district counts each year long AP class as two "AP courses" for the sake of organization.-- Lrd1rocha 03:13, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
i think that it goes as 1 ap class = 2 semesters counted on that statistic? Which would mean its on average 6 AP classes, which is much more reasonable (although still alot) 68.121.111.184 05:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I went through and reorganized the article. I'm hoping we can get this thing up to Feature Article level! My main goal in editing was to organize it more logically/hierarchially and generally pare down the article by giving oversized sections their own articles. When I started the article was 57 kb; now it's a more svelte 43 kb. I tried not to step on too many toes, though personally I'm still a bit embarrassed by the rampant boasting. (Folks, people know that Berkeley is prestigious; ya don't have to belabor the point! Be secure in its prestige!) I know quoting rankings are a fact of life with university entries, so hopefully giving them their own section will help contain 'em.
It'd be really nice if someone went through and rewrote the student life section, especially student groups, so that it reads more like one section (i.e., with a point) instead of a dozen scraps duct-taped together. Also, the admissions subsection could probably be summarized in a single sentence somewhere else, along the lines of "Berkeley's undergraduate admissions rate is… with an average GPA/SAT I of…", but I didn't feel like doing that tonight. — Gku 11:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
The contributions to computer science section seems oddly out of place. Mostly, because it highlights a single department, leaving the impression that is Berkeley's main claim to fame. That's not really so, as a glance at the Nobel laureates shows: 7 chemistry, 7 physics, 4 economics. It's not that the CS stuff shouldn't be there; they were huge in that. Rather, it's the placement. Maybe there ought to be a separate main section on research breakthroughs at Berkeley. That's also important because Berkeley's extraordinary international reputation is based on the research, which is really mentioned only in passing (other than CS). Without that research tradition, Berkeley would be just yet another of a couple hundred big state schools. JasonKitrick 01:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Concerning the nobel laureates, it is quite normal that there is no computer science nobel laureate in berkeley, because this award does not exist. If you want to compare numbers, compute the number of turing award, that is the highest award in computer science -- yoann padioleau
Fuzzy logic is missing from the list of contributions to CS.
Lotfi Zadeh created it while at Berkeley. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
134.226.1.62 (
talk •
contribs) 22:58, 12 November 2006
I noticed there was no talk section for it. I'd like here the idea in full before I make a comment. -- Falcorian (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
As a Berkeley CS student, I know for a fact that the AI people don't "talk about him constantly for this work". In fact, the AI people greatly dislike Searle, since after all he basically said that AI research is pointless, since no matter how good it is, it's not true intelligence. (Not his exact words, but that's the general sentiment you get when you read the Chinese Room argument.)
Also, the Chinese Room most certainly isn't a contribution to CS. I've read the paper. The whole argument is based on philosophical issues and an assumption that we (or rather philosophers) understand what it means to "understand", which, as a scientist, I do not believe is true. The paper provides no real result that is useful to computer science. Granted, it's thought provoking, but thought provoking for the sake of provoking thoughts, while good in the humanities, has no place in the sciences. Compare this with Alan Turing's 1950 paper "Computing Machinery and Intelligence", which laid the groundwork for what we know of today as the Turing Test. Most importantly, there is NO RESEARCH nor SOFTWARE nor ANYTHING AT ALL that is based on the Chinese Room. In short, the Chinese Room is a dead end.
Finally, the Chinese Room is controversial. Yes, it's useless, but controversial. There are many computer scientists who will jump at the chance to tear apart the Chinese Room argument because they think it's utter trash, and by the same token, there are many philosophers who will defend the Chinese Room argument based on the philosopher's (non-scientific) understanding of "understanding". And then there are computer scientists who just dismiss the Chinese Room argument's importance to Computer Science. Because it isn't important at all.
If you keep the reference to Searle in the CS section, you are pretty much guaranteeing this article an NPOV violation due to the controversy of the Chinese Room argument. This is not a threat. It's simply a statement of something that is true.
I'm not saying Searle doesn't belong on this page. I'm just simply saying he doesn't belong under the CS section of the page. And he sure as hell hasn't contributed anything to computer science. Viltris 08:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Could anyone write a small piece on their new service which brings their courses into iTunes and into anyone's computers? http://itunes.berkeley.edu/
I know it may irk people from other UC campuses when the UC Berkeley is referred to as Cal, etc., but the fact is that these are registered trademarks of the university and exist as common names for the school. I don't see why it offends people that the school is referred to as Cal.
Would someone with some Berkeley knowledge please head over to Transportation Library, UC Berkeley and do some cleaning up of that article? I know nothing about the library and it really reads like a fact sheet more than an article (like, for example, the library hours were in it before I removed it). If anyone can help, that'd be great. I also wonder if anyone thinks it really deserves an article (I don't see an article on any other library other than the main library article. Metros232 11:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
There is a claim under the Student Groups section that "Today, a substantial majority of students at the campus oppose Affirmative Action." Where is this claim substantiated? In fact, ASUC Senator Van Nguyen was just elected with a large popular vote on a platform centered on Affirmative Action. Joshlmay 01:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I do not think this qualifies for fair use, as the picture is relatively new (compared to the age of the hall) and it therefore seems that a new picture of it can be easily taken. Or, a PD Old image can probably be located (I think the library has one), in which case it's a moot point. -- Falcorian (talk) 17:54, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
" and the University has managed the nation's two principal nuclear weapons labs (now also used for more peaceful research) at Livermore and Los Alamos ever since. " Recently there was a change in management. Isn't Los Alamos now managed by consortium of UC and Bechtel and others? Or is that Livermore? Also, UC manages Lawrence Berk Nat Lab, but this is not mentioned. -- GangofOne 20:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I started a naming section to explain the different variations and to get rid of the grating at Berkeley misattribution in the intro line. So far the only verification is from the OMMT, so feel free to alter, move or flesh out the section. ~ trialsanderrors 23:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm posting this survey request Talk:University of California, Riverside#UCR Survey on all the UC talk pages in order to gather outside opinion on ongoing issues concerning the POV of this article. Please read the article and add your insights to the survey to help us identify any points of consensus in the UCR article. Thanks-- Amerique 21:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, I noticed one of my pictures was used for the article, and I have to admit that it doesn't look too good. I'll try to get a better version of the file. Also, I created a table for the Chancellor's list, but it might not fit with the rest of the article (style), so feel free to revert to the original simple listing.- Lrd1rocha 04:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I uploaded an image which could be used as Cal's logo in the infobox. But the image does not want to appear, at least not for me. Does anyone else want to try to put the logo in? 10:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
This sentence from the lead seems like a bit of an afterthought: "But Berkeley faculty have a no less distinguished record in fields outside the sciences as well." Perhaps we can add something to this by considering other awards, such as the Fields_medal awarded every four years to the best young mathematicician? Four winners (out of 44, since 1936 when the award was first given)were affiliated with Berkeley
Especially given that the award is given for work done before the age of 40, most recipients recieve this award for work that they did during their PhD or shortly thereafter.
Similarly, in other areas, one mark of distinction is to be awarded a grant from the James_S._McDonnell_Foundation. Nine Berkeley faculty members have recieved one of these grants. Wayne Getz: http://www.jsmf.org/grants/cs/awards_2003.htm Mimi Koehl: http://www.jsmf.org/grants/bmb/collaborative_awards_2002.htm http://www.jsmf.org/grants/search-archive.php?general=Berkeley (7 archived) Perhaps there is some non-braggy way to include this information in place of the current sentence? Edhubbard 09:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
How did this end up as third section in the article? I'm sure it is relevant, but why is it considered more relevant than Berkeley's scientific, administrative, architectural or athletic history, just to name a couple? Also, the last sentence, "To learn more about ROTC's history at UC Berkeley, visit Hearst Gymnasium's first-floor exhibits, which showcase historical photographs and memorabilia — including ship's wheels and antique machine guns", makes me wonder if the reason behind this insertion isn't POV pushing. ~ trialsanderrors 16:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
This is taken directly from the Berkeley Editorial Style Guide and should be enforced in articles on UC Berkeley. ~ trialsanderrors 09:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Source: http://identity.berkeley.edu/downloads/ucb_editorial_style.pdf *
"However, introductory classes consisting of hundreds of students are not unusual, and some Berkeley professors are criticized for being more interested in research than in undergraduate teaching."
I'd like to see a citation for the second part of the sentence. -- Kyledavid80 00:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |