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Scholarship information should stay. Summerdays1 ( talk) 22:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm disappointed there is no mention to this fact that has quite a high encyclopedical and storical relevance. 81.56.24.219 ( talk) 10:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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Reference 160 has outdated link, it is currently at avid.wiki/Chernin_Entertainment. The wiki moved to Wikiforge in the summer of 2023 as an explanation for the domain name change and reason to edit. Timpbskid23 ( talk) 15:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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A comma should follow “University of California, Berkeley” if it’s written out in running prose; see MOS:GEOCOMMA. I see this is missing in the lede sentence at least. 103.203.255.65 ( talk) 19:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)\
See: COM:R § Front doors of the Berkeley SCET on Commons. I'm thinking about adding info about the Sutardja Center to this article or Berkeley Engineering, and the requested image would be good illustration. If anyone is near the area, snapping a pic and uploading would be greatly appreciated! BhamBoi ( talk) 18:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
MadMedeiros Your additions to the lede of the article have given it an expansion, but much of the statements made have been done without first ensuring that they are appropriately verified, sourced, and adhere to the policies regarding due weight and article ledes. For example, many of your changes added information to the lede that were unverified in the body, giving WP:UNDUE weight to the information, even if it is sourced. You might also want to review WP:BOOSTER regarding similar issues and tone, along with the prevailing consensus on information regarding reputation, prestige, and rankings. GuardianH ( talk) 18:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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"On March 11, 2022, state legislators released a proposal to change CEQA to exempt the university from its restrictions.[83] On March 14, Gavin Newsom signed the bill into law.[84] On June 6, 2024, the Supreme Court of California upheld UC Berkeley's exemption from CEQA. Berkeley has continued to face a housing shortage.[85]" 2600:1700:488:C380:55C6:FDC0:10EB:A918 ( talk) 23:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Nightshade2000 and ElKevbo, this lede statement still falls short of WP:HIGHEREDREP, namely that it continues to lack due weight, particularly in the body which it does not appropriately reflect.
For one, the statement is not verified in the body, where neither of its two sources are present. We do have a Reputation and Rankings section, but the global reputation is limited to just one paragraph under Past rankings and two bullet-points for rankings. We get plenty of rankings, but these do not provide the extensive coverage as to prominently place in the lede that Berkeley "has been regarded as one of the top universities in the world
." Like I pointed out in
Stanford University, the statement jumps the gun on relevance; we should have multiple paragraphs expounding much greater on reputation, but there is only miscellaneous rankings under the section.
Also, there hasn't been an adequate consensus established regarding its addition, like would otherwise be described by WP:HIGHEREDREP. There should be expansions done on the article before the statement is added. GuardianH ( talk) 05:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
has been regarded as one of the top universities in the worldI propose "Due to its rich history and numerous scientific contributions, it has been regarded as one of the top public universities in the world.". As the supporting material does not use quantitative metrics to justify the prestige, instead using qualitative data (like history etc) reported in the source articles.
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Scholarship information should stay. Summerdays1 ( talk) 22:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm disappointed there is no mention to this fact that has quite a high encyclopedical and storical relevance. 81.56.24.219 ( talk) 10:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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Reference 160 has outdated link, it is currently at avid.wiki/Chernin_Entertainment. The wiki moved to Wikiforge in the summer of 2023 as an explanation for the domain name change and reason to edit. Timpbskid23 ( talk) 15:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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A comma should follow “University of California, Berkeley” if it’s written out in running prose; see MOS:GEOCOMMA. I see this is missing in the lede sentence at least. 103.203.255.65 ( talk) 19:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)\
See: COM:R § Front doors of the Berkeley SCET on Commons. I'm thinking about adding info about the Sutardja Center to this article or Berkeley Engineering, and the requested image would be good illustration. If anyone is near the area, snapping a pic and uploading would be greatly appreciated! BhamBoi ( talk) 18:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
MadMedeiros Your additions to the lede of the article have given it an expansion, but much of the statements made have been done without first ensuring that they are appropriately verified, sourced, and adhere to the policies regarding due weight and article ledes. For example, many of your changes added information to the lede that were unverified in the body, giving WP:UNDUE weight to the information, even if it is sourced. You might also want to review WP:BOOSTER regarding similar issues and tone, along with the prevailing consensus on information regarding reputation, prestige, and rankings. GuardianH ( talk) 18:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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"On March 11, 2022, state legislators released a proposal to change CEQA to exempt the university from its restrictions.[83] On March 14, Gavin Newsom signed the bill into law.[84] On June 6, 2024, the Supreme Court of California upheld UC Berkeley's exemption from CEQA. Berkeley has continued to face a housing shortage.[85]" 2600:1700:488:C380:55C6:FDC0:10EB:A918 ( talk) 23:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Nightshade2000 and ElKevbo, this lede statement still falls short of WP:HIGHEREDREP, namely that it continues to lack due weight, particularly in the body which it does not appropriately reflect.
For one, the statement is not verified in the body, where neither of its two sources are present. We do have a Reputation and Rankings section, but the global reputation is limited to just one paragraph under Past rankings and two bullet-points for rankings. We get plenty of rankings, but these do not provide the extensive coverage as to prominently place in the lede that Berkeley "has been regarded as one of the top universities in the world
." Like I pointed out in
Stanford University, the statement jumps the gun on relevance; we should have multiple paragraphs expounding much greater on reputation, but there is only miscellaneous rankings under the section.
Also, there hasn't been an adequate consensus established regarding its addition, like would otherwise be described by WP:HIGHEREDREP. There should be expansions done on the article before the statement is added. GuardianH ( talk) 05:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
has been regarded as one of the top universities in the worldI propose "Due to its rich history and numerous scientific contributions, it has been regarded as one of the top public universities in the world.". As the supporting material does not use quantitative metrics to justify the prestige, instead using qualitative data (like history etc) reported in the source articles.