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Although the article is neutral, stable, illustrated and largely well written, I don't think the coverage is broad enough to warrant good article status (the history section, for example, seems underdeveloped – compare and contrast with the one for Hatfield College, Durham) and some sections do not have enough references, while a number of the reference links are dead and have been for some time, and other references are lazily written. Overall it has the appearance of an article that once had high potential but has since been badly neglected -- Fat Larry's Ghost ( talk) 17:03, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
I have removed the following footnote:
<ref>Unfortunately, undergraduates Ian Stewart and Simon Prosser caused so much damage to the infrastructure of the building in their first year that a new renovation is required. Estimates have so far been between £100,000 and £200,000.
{{cite web
| last = Durham University Estates and Buildings
| title = S Block Refurbishment Moatside University College
| url = http://www.dur.ac.uk/its.web-demos/estates/designs/demo3/projectsinfo/full.php?id=36
| accessdate = 11 October 2006}} {{Dead link|date=April 2012|bot=H3llBot}}
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TSawala ( talk) 23:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Can we put in a "notable alumni" section as Hatfield have one already? I think we should also mention Lumley Castle and the Lumley run. Maybe also the June Ball?
4 June 2006 - I have just added Hunter Davies to the notable alumni - he has a Wikipedia entry of his own (stub) and I tried to make a hypertext link to it, but seem to have failed...
Removed details of staff and individual members of the College. Removed "Castle Song". These matters seem to be inappropriate for an encyclopaedia entry.
Could this be made more generic, rather than discuss the current incumbents of the post. This is meant to be an Encyclopedia. Out of the list given, the only person significant enough to the college to be mentioned by way of his own person is John Atkin MBE.
This article is a current good article candidate. In accordance with the good article criteria, I have reviewed it and put it on a seven day hold. This means that it has problems which prevent it from becoming a GA right now, but problems which should be able to be cleared up within seven days.
Well written: Fail. The article needs copyediting, eg "To the west of the courtyard, is the medieval Great Hall, to the still used as a dining room by the students, was built by Bishop Bek in the thirteenth century." In the head section, Professor Tucker should have his title. Non-notable trivia should be purged, ie the section about Smenergy. On the plus side, the article follows a logical and hierarchical structure, although perhaps the library should come before the 'Student Body', and the 'Undercroft Bar' and 'Castle Society' be subordinated to sub-headings beneath 'Student Body'.
Factually accurate and verifiable: Pass. Most assertions are referenced. One problem though. The Wiki guidelines on referencing state that anything likely to be challenged should be referenced. "For two hundred years this was the largest Great Hall in the United Kingdom; however, it was shortened by Bishop Fox". That's a big claim probably open to counter-claims - and an anachronistic one given that the United Kingdom did not exist until 1800.
Broad in coverage: Pass. The article covers all the aspects of the college which I would expect it to cover.
NPOV: Fail. Subjective words. eg "Other impressive ... parts of the castle", "The stunning Tunstal Chapel", "a mysterious group of Castle students", "The college has a strong artistic tendency"
Also, isn't the bit about it being the 'most prestigious' college in the opening line a subjective and pretty loaded phrase. Whilst it is the oldest and is one of the more traditional colleges, I don't think you can quantifiably claim it to be 'the most prestigious'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.184.4 ( talk) 20:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Stable: Pass. The article is stable.
Pictures: Fail. The uploader of the Castlecroft logo needs to prove somehow that they own the copyright, so that they have the right to release it into the public domain. The copyright probably belongs to the SU or JCR - even the designer of the logo does not own it if they sold it to the SU/JCR/bar.
These problems stand in the way of GA, but are easily rectified. Well done so far to all who have contributed, it is a good read, and I hope to come back in seven days (less?) and award GA!
Chrisfow
23:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Well done for these changes, Rob. I am pleased to elevate this to GA! Chrisfow 14:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Rob, thank you for your copy edit; here are a few more areas I think need work:
I have more, but I'll add them in manageable chunks. I do understand the hard work and commitment it takes to bring an article this close to FA, and that peer review can be unsatisfying. But with a little more effort, I think your there. It's just polish from here on in. + Ceoil 02:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I came here in response to a request to the League of Copyeditors. I'll work on the article over the next few days. If you have questions about any of my edits (or have suggestions) please don't hesitate to ask. Raymond Arritt 02:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
University College is not actually a listed body under the cited act, if you take a close look at the website you will see that it is not included on the list. AlexD 13:03, 17 August 2007 (UTC) Durham Listed Bodies
Hello - it is listed now. I contacted the DFES and they apologised for the omission. You can see from the link above that it is now listed.-- 95.146.49.118 ( talk) 00:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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I removed a section on the Cardinal Club which was unsourced, as per WP:V. @ Timmillea: restored it saying that they were there, which sadly is not a verifiable source. I suggest that User:Timmillea reverts this as I don't want to get into an edit war. Bellowhead678 ( talk) 14:49, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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Although the article is neutral, stable, illustrated and largely well written, I don't think the coverage is broad enough to warrant good article status (the history section, for example, seems underdeveloped – compare and contrast with the one for Hatfield College, Durham) and some sections do not have enough references, while a number of the reference links are dead and have been for some time, and other references are lazily written. Overall it has the appearance of an article that once had high potential but has since been badly neglected -- Fat Larry's Ghost ( talk) 17:03, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
I have removed the following footnote:
<ref>Unfortunately, undergraduates Ian Stewart and Simon Prosser caused so much damage to the infrastructure of the building in their first year that a new renovation is required. Estimates have so far been between £100,000 and £200,000.
{{cite web
| last = Durham University Estates and Buildings
| title = S Block Refurbishment Moatside University College
| url = http://www.dur.ac.uk/its.web-demos/estates/designs/demo3/projectsinfo/full.php?id=36
| accessdate = 11 October 2006}} {{Dead link|date=April 2012|bot=H3llBot}}
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The link is dead, and I was not able to verify the content. Please provide a credible source before reinstating it.
TSawala ( talk) 23:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Can we put in a "notable alumni" section as Hatfield have one already? I think we should also mention Lumley Castle and the Lumley run. Maybe also the June Ball?
4 June 2006 - I have just added Hunter Davies to the notable alumni - he has a Wikipedia entry of his own (stub) and I tried to make a hypertext link to it, but seem to have failed...
Removed details of staff and individual members of the College. Removed "Castle Song". These matters seem to be inappropriate for an encyclopaedia entry.
Could this be made more generic, rather than discuss the current incumbents of the post. This is meant to be an Encyclopedia. Out of the list given, the only person significant enough to the college to be mentioned by way of his own person is John Atkin MBE.
This article is a current good article candidate. In accordance with the good article criteria, I have reviewed it and put it on a seven day hold. This means that it has problems which prevent it from becoming a GA right now, but problems which should be able to be cleared up within seven days.
Well written: Fail. The article needs copyediting, eg "To the west of the courtyard, is the medieval Great Hall, to the still used as a dining room by the students, was built by Bishop Bek in the thirteenth century." In the head section, Professor Tucker should have his title. Non-notable trivia should be purged, ie the section about Smenergy. On the plus side, the article follows a logical and hierarchical structure, although perhaps the library should come before the 'Student Body', and the 'Undercroft Bar' and 'Castle Society' be subordinated to sub-headings beneath 'Student Body'.
Factually accurate and verifiable: Pass. Most assertions are referenced. One problem though. The Wiki guidelines on referencing state that anything likely to be challenged should be referenced. "For two hundred years this was the largest Great Hall in the United Kingdom; however, it was shortened by Bishop Fox". That's a big claim probably open to counter-claims - and an anachronistic one given that the United Kingdom did not exist until 1800.
Broad in coverage: Pass. The article covers all the aspects of the college which I would expect it to cover.
NPOV: Fail. Subjective words. eg "Other impressive ... parts of the castle", "The stunning Tunstal Chapel", "a mysterious group of Castle students", "The college has a strong artistic tendency"
Also, isn't the bit about it being the 'most prestigious' college in the opening line a subjective and pretty loaded phrase. Whilst it is the oldest and is one of the more traditional colleges, I don't think you can quantifiably claim it to be 'the most prestigious'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.184.4 ( talk) 20:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Stable: Pass. The article is stable.
Pictures: Fail. The uploader of the Castlecroft logo needs to prove somehow that they own the copyright, so that they have the right to release it into the public domain. The copyright probably belongs to the SU or JCR - even the designer of the logo does not own it if they sold it to the SU/JCR/bar.
These problems stand in the way of GA, but are easily rectified. Well done so far to all who have contributed, it is a good read, and I hope to come back in seven days (less?) and award GA!
Chrisfow
23:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Well done for these changes, Rob. I am pleased to elevate this to GA! Chrisfow 14:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Rob, thank you for your copy edit; here are a few more areas I think need work:
I have more, but I'll add them in manageable chunks. I do understand the hard work and commitment it takes to bring an article this close to FA, and that peer review can be unsatisfying. But with a little more effort, I think your there. It's just polish from here on in. + Ceoil 02:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I came here in response to a request to the League of Copyeditors. I'll work on the article over the next few days. If you have questions about any of my edits (or have suggestions) please don't hesitate to ask. Raymond Arritt 02:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
University College is not actually a listed body under the cited act, if you take a close look at the website you will see that it is not included on the list. AlexD 13:03, 17 August 2007 (UTC) Durham Listed Bodies
Hello - it is listed now. I contacted the DFES and they apologised for the omission. You can see from the link above that it is now listed.-- 95.146.49.118 ( talk) 00:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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I removed a section on the Cardinal Club which was unsourced, as per WP:V. @ Timmillea: restored it saying that they were there, which sadly is not a verifiable source. I suggest that User:Timmillea reverts this as I don't want to get into an edit war. Bellowhead678 ( talk) 14:49, 16 January 2022 (UTC)