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The new name is an improvement, but because only S&P downgraded the credit rating, it's somewhat misleading. Perhaps United States federal government S&P credit rating downgrade, 2011. We don't want to imply this was a downgrade by all the major ratings companies. 99.50.188.77 ( talk) 16:47, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I know it makes the article name longer, but the alternative is to reinsert this whole thing into the US Public Debt article, which is too long. Sorry, didn't sign my post: Randnotell ( talk) 23:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I added a link from the S&P article (which already had a section on the downgrade) after I noticed Google News is lining to it rather than the WP public debt or this article. There may be other articles which could use a link, so please think about possibilities. 99.50.188.77 ( talk) 17:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
This article is like an advertisement for Politico. Bond Head ( talk) 17:33, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
And rather than an advertisement for Politico, it's an advertisement for Playbook, which ultimately is an advertisement for Mike Allen. And you know what? Mike Allen does good work. Thus, he is sufficiently authoritative to provide so many quotes in this manner, because Barack Obama didn't provide quotes until today, and Wikipedia can't wait for the President to actually say what Barack Obama's thinking. I'm putting the quotes back in. You can replace them with quotes from Obama's speech if you feel that to be necessary. Randnotell ( talk) 23:12, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Simultaneously, just because Buddy Roemer's said he's running for President doesn't mean he has any chance of winning. Randnotell ( talk) 23:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Don't forget to look for info about the bad assumptions 10 years out that led to the 2 trillion $ mistake, hence to the downgrade, suggesting that S&P did the downgrade without sufficient justification. Look up info on John Bellows who caught the mistake. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/06/business/us-debt-downgraded-by-sp.html 4.249.63.138 ( talk) 11:20, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Follow the issues on insider trading that the SEC is investigating, including that single $805 million trade right after the announcement. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-sec-sp-idUSTRE77B0KW20110812 4.249.63.79 ( talk) 12:42, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Per WP:Summary Style and WP:Splitting, I trimmed this from History of the United States public debt. If anything fits, please add it to this article. Darx9url ( talk) 14:19, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Together with the budget deficit, the political climate at the time was one of the reasons given by Standard & Poor's to revise the outlook on the US sovereign credit rating down to negative on April 18, 2011. [1] Standard and Poor's downgraded the credit rating by one notch from AAA to AA+ on August 5, 2011, for the first time ever. The long-term outlook is negative and it could lower the rating further to AA within the next 2 years. [2] [3] The downgrade was met with severe criticism from the Obama administration, commentators, and other political figures. [4] [5] The US still has a AAA rating from other ratings agencies.
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"Because the U.S. has, relative to its AAA peers, what we consider to be very large budget deficits and rising government indebtedness, and the path to addressing these is not clear to us, we have revised our outlook on the long-term rating to negative from stable", S&P said in a release.
The united states credit rating is based on having other nations foot their bill, and has defacto a severity of monopolistic enslavement and international indenture build in.
At 3% inflation per annum, an international debt of 20 trillion (4:1 rating), would drop to to 75% of its internal credit valoration over a period of 10 years. Pension and saving plans, international, take more then 40 years to build up, which makes the first dollar saved have a value of 30 cents, with a none recuperable 70%, none using the united states dollar internally.
I doubt that that promotion of credit worthyness on an international level has any valoration except for that what is their own self promotion for self perpetuation of a way of life, that has all facets of populism, communism, militarism, facism, and racism, lacking merely some of the social graces that would be socialism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.92.224.46 ( talk) 18:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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The new name is an improvement, but because only S&P downgraded the credit rating, it's somewhat misleading. Perhaps United States federal government S&P credit rating downgrade, 2011. We don't want to imply this was a downgrade by all the major ratings companies. 99.50.188.77 ( talk) 16:47, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I know it makes the article name longer, but the alternative is to reinsert this whole thing into the US Public Debt article, which is too long. Sorry, didn't sign my post: Randnotell ( talk) 23:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I added a link from the S&P article (which already had a section on the downgrade) after I noticed Google News is lining to it rather than the WP public debt or this article. There may be other articles which could use a link, so please think about possibilities. 99.50.188.77 ( talk) 17:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
This article is like an advertisement for Politico. Bond Head ( talk) 17:33, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
And rather than an advertisement for Politico, it's an advertisement for Playbook, which ultimately is an advertisement for Mike Allen. And you know what? Mike Allen does good work. Thus, he is sufficiently authoritative to provide so many quotes in this manner, because Barack Obama didn't provide quotes until today, and Wikipedia can't wait for the President to actually say what Barack Obama's thinking. I'm putting the quotes back in. You can replace them with quotes from Obama's speech if you feel that to be necessary. Randnotell ( talk) 23:12, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Simultaneously, just because Buddy Roemer's said he's running for President doesn't mean he has any chance of winning. Randnotell ( talk) 23:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Don't forget to look for info about the bad assumptions 10 years out that led to the 2 trillion $ mistake, hence to the downgrade, suggesting that S&P did the downgrade without sufficient justification. Look up info on John Bellows who caught the mistake. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/06/business/us-debt-downgraded-by-sp.html 4.249.63.138 ( talk) 11:20, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Follow the issues on insider trading that the SEC is investigating, including that single $805 million trade right after the announcement. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-sec-sp-idUSTRE77B0KW20110812 4.249.63.79 ( talk) 12:42, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Per WP:Summary Style and WP:Splitting, I trimmed this from History of the United States public debt. If anything fits, please add it to this article. Darx9url ( talk) 14:19, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Together with the budget deficit, the political climate at the time was one of the reasons given by Standard & Poor's to revise the outlook on the US sovereign credit rating down to negative on April 18, 2011. [1] Standard and Poor's downgraded the credit rating by one notch from AAA to AA+ on August 5, 2011, for the first time ever. The long-term outlook is negative and it could lower the rating further to AA within the next 2 years. [2] [3] The downgrade was met with severe criticism from the Obama administration, commentators, and other political figures. [4] [5] The US still has a AAA rating from other ratings agencies.
References
"Because the U.S. has, relative to its AAA peers, what we consider to be very large budget deficits and rising government indebtedness, and the path to addressing these is not clear to us, we have revised our outlook on the long-term rating to negative from stable", S&P said in a release.
The united states credit rating is based on having other nations foot their bill, and has defacto a severity of monopolistic enslavement and international indenture build in.
At 3% inflation per annum, an international debt of 20 trillion (4:1 rating), would drop to to 75% of its internal credit valoration over a period of 10 years. Pension and saving plans, international, take more then 40 years to build up, which makes the first dollar saved have a value of 30 cents, with a none recuperable 70%, none using the united states dollar internally.
I doubt that that promotion of credit worthyness on an international level has any valoration except for that what is their own self promotion for self perpetuation of a way of life, that has all facets of populism, communism, militarism, facism, and racism, lacking merely some of the social graces that would be socialism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.92.224.46 ( talk) 18:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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