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@ Another Believer: I was adding File:May 2022 abortion protest at Foley Square 07.jpg as the lead when I edit-conflicted with you. I preferred 07 because the sign specifically addressed SCOTUS/the 5 majority justices. Or do you think it would be too inflammatory to lead the article with that? Legoktm ( talk) 01:30, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Seems to be concern that the leak will trigger violence. This ( https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/supreme-court-barricades-roe-wade/) suggests the barriers could be legacy, but won't yet confirm one way or the other. If the expected violence does ensue, well there's plenty of space here for that content. 人æ ( talk) 01:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
But apparently his stunt had nothing to do with the leak...
Not sure if should be included? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:00, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:00, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Plans for a protest in Amsterdam:
https://nltimes.nl/2022/05/05/solidarity-protest-right-abortion-amsterdam-saturday
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:19, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:32, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
I think a brief history of abortion protests in the US â perhaps a brief summary of United States anti-abortion movement and United States abortion-rights movement? â would be somewhat due for this article in order to further contextualise the protests. -- QueenofBithynia ( talk) 20:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:04, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
I've put a lot of time and energy into this entry, but much work remains. I'm hoping some other editors might be willing to lend a hand.
Below, I've included a list of U.S. states (abbreviations). I'm essentially hoping to use this as a checklist, with editors volunteering to flesh out content for specific states. This involves searching about a specific state to make sure all cities with demonstrations are included in the article, then fleshing out the prose to note important details such as event locations, number of attendees, organizers, notable speakers, and impact.
Sure, some states will require more work than others (there's much more to say about CA than ID); even checking off some of the easy ones would be a tremendous help. This strategy has worked for collaborations on similar protest entries, but we'll see how this one goes.
Thanks for any assistance in advance! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:45, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
March_for_Life_(Washington,_D.C.)#2020âpresent is not mentioned. Should it be? it was before the leak, but during 2022.-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 19:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
There have been protests in Amsterdam and London. Not sure if international locations should be mentioned in the lead, or if this should be taken into account re: page title options? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 03:23, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Several suggested names (at least for starters):
in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan ( talk) 01:20, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Several more suggested names (perhaps even better):
iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan ( talk) 13:45, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Should the "Jane's Revenge" group and/or the two arson incidents be described under the geographical areas or as a new section? Sources: two of them linked at the first two citations of this letter. Sources dealing with the threatening letter:
-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 03:24, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
That should count as a protest- Why? â Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
repeated claims that the attack may have been a false flag operationKire1975 ( talk) 01:37, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
It's verifiable that a pro-choice group claimed responsibility. How is that verifiable? Kire1975 ( talk) 10:12, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
unable to verify the groupâs authenticity. It appears we are at an impasse. Per WP:NOTSILENCE, I will WP:DROPTHESTICK. If you wish to continue this conversation without providing verification, you are free to pursue the options at WP:DRR. Thank you. Kire1975 ( talk) 05:56, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
In a statement reported on Tuesday by the Lincoln Journal Star, which said it was unable to verify the groupâs authenticity, Janeâs Revenge said it launched the attack because of the organizationâs anti-abortion stance, and demanded that similar institutions across the US disband or face âincreasingly extreme tacticsâ.... The Madison attack came days after the leaking of a supreme court draft ruling that would overturn its 1973 Roe v Wade decision and end almost half a century of constitutional abortion protections.The group is claiming that the attack was an act of protest, essentially. IMO it's fine for us to put a sentence about this saying that a pro-life group incurred an arson attack, and a pro-choice group claimed responsibility, though the authenticity of their claim has not been verified. This was a reasonably large story, a brief sentence about it after the bit about Wisconsin that's already in the article seems fine to me. Endwise ( talk) 18:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
This matter is currently being discussed on the adminstrator notice board here. Kire1975 ( talk) 08:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
i added the assassination attempt because the confessor specifically mentioned that it was in protests over the relevent case.Seeing as this article is about protests as they relate to the phenomena, I think it apt to include such information. both the peaceful and violent forms of protests. Jaygo113 ( talk) 20:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Just alerting editors that the WikiProject of Current Events has started a task force dedicated to this article/topic. Feel free to join and help the new Court Case Task Force by WikiProject Current events. Elijahandskip ( talk) 17:42, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
@ Another Believer: I was adding File:May 2022 abortion protest at Foley Square 07.jpg as the lead when I edit-conflicted with you. I preferred 07 because the sign specifically addressed SCOTUS/the 5 majority justices. Or do you think it would be too inflammatory to lead the article with that? Legoktm ( talk) 01:30, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Seems to be concern that the leak will trigger violence. This ( https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/supreme-court-barricades-roe-wade/) suggests the barriers could be legacy, but won't yet confirm one way or the other. If the expected violence does ensue, well there's plenty of space here for that content. 人æ ( talk) 01:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
But apparently his stunt had nothing to do with the leak...
Not sure if should be included? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:00, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:00, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Plans for a protest in Amsterdam:
https://nltimes.nl/2022/05/05/solidarity-protest-right-abortion-amsterdam-saturday
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:19, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 20:32, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
I think a brief history of abortion protests in the US â perhaps a brief summary of United States anti-abortion movement and United States abortion-rights movement? â would be somewhat due for this article in order to further contextualise the protests. -- QueenofBithynia ( talk) 20:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:04, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
I've put a lot of time and energy into this entry, but much work remains. I'm hoping some other editors might be willing to lend a hand.
Below, I've included a list of U.S. states (abbreviations). I'm essentially hoping to use this as a checklist, with editors volunteering to flesh out content for specific states. This involves searching about a specific state to make sure all cities with demonstrations are included in the article, then fleshing out the prose to note important details such as event locations, number of attendees, organizers, notable speakers, and impact.
Sure, some states will require more work than others (there's much more to say about CA than ID); even checking off some of the easy ones would be a tremendous help. This strategy has worked for collaborations on similar protest entries, but we'll see how this one goes.
Thanks for any assistance in advance! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:45, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
March_for_Life_(Washington,_D.C.)#2020âpresent is not mentioned. Should it be? it was before the leak, but during 2022.-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 19:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
There have been protests in Amsterdam and London. Not sure if international locations should be mentioned in the lead, or if this should be taken into account re: page title options? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 03:23, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Several suggested names (at least for starters):
in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan ( talk) 01:20, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Several more suggested names (perhaps even better):
iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan ( talk) 13:45, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Should the "Jane's Revenge" group and/or the two arson incidents be described under the geographical areas or as a new section? Sources: two of them linked at the first two citations of this letter. Sources dealing with the threatening letter:
-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 03:24, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
That should count as a protest- Why? â Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
repeated claims that the attack may have been a false flag operationKire1975 ( talk) 01:37, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
It's verifiable that a pro-choice group claimed responsibility. How is that verifiable? Kire1975 ( talk) 10:12, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
unable to verify the groupâs authenticity. It appears we are at an impasse. Per WP:NOTSILENCE, I will WP:DROPTHESTICK. If you wish to continue this conversation without providing verification, you are free to pursue the options at WP:DRR. Thank you. Kire1975 ( talk) 05:56, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
In a statement reported on Tuesday by the Lincoln Journal Star, which said it was unable to verify the groupâs authenticity, Janeâs Revenge said it launched the attack because of the organizationâs anti-abortion stance, and demanded that similar institutions across the US disband or face âincreasingly extreme tacticsâ.... The Madison attack came days after the leaking of a supreme court draft ruling that would overturn its 1973 Roe v Wade decision and end almost half a century of constitutional abortion protections.The group is claiming that the attack was an act of protest, essentially. IMO it's fine for us to put a sentence about this saying that a pro-life group incurred an arson attack, and a pro-choice group claimed responsibility, though the authenticity of their claim has not been verified. This was a reasonably large story, a brief sentence about it after the bit about Wisconsin that's already in the article seems fine to me. Endwise ( talk) 18:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
This matter is currently being discussed on the adminstrator notice board here. Kire1975 ( talk) 08:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
i added the assassination attempt because the confessor specifically mentioned that it was in protests over the relevent case.Seeing as this article is about protests as they relate to the phenomena, I think it apt to include such information. both the peaceful and violent forms of protests. Jaygo113 ( talk) 20:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Just alerting editors that the WikiProject of Current Events has started a task force dedicated to this article/topic. Feel free to join and help the new Court Case Task Force by WikiProject Current events. Elijahandskip ( talk) 17:42, 24 June 2022 (UTC)