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This seems like an absurd distinction. Lebanese-Americans are a tiny ethnicity, members of which have held other cabinet posts before (Shalala, for instance.) Secretary of Energy is a particularly obscure cabinet post. Why should we be expected to care that Abraham was the first Lebanese-American Secretary of Energy
Featured Articles and Featured Lists are changed all the time. To exclude an infobox on this basis is silly. First of all, if the feature status were to be reviewed, and the infobox was the thing reviewers pointed to as making it no longer a featured list, it could be removed rather quickly. Second, you cannot stop change to a featured article or list just because it has featured status. That would be antithetical to the way Wikipedia works.
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The chart is not necessary, it pushes the chart down, creates a huge white space and makes the list hard to read. The picture of the current secretary in the chart looks disorganized and takes away from the list's FL quality by taking away the symmetry of images to the right of the list. -- William Saturn ( talk) 22:33, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
How are the political parties useless? Not every time have they been the same as the president's. As politicians, parties are relevant. Why do we need both pictures in the table and redudant pictures next to it? William, you don't own the article, and the fact that it passed FL 2 1/2 years ago does not make it perfect and immutable. By the way, I HAVE tried to discuss the article with you, but you reverted me saying you "couldn't care less." So what makes these contributions "disruptive" and "useless", as you've said? Reywas92 Talk 20:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
The editors restoring content that I added and chose to remove, are editing in a legally acceptable manner, however, it is morally unacceptable, and runs afoul of the moral guidelines we expect other editors to follow. Wikipedia is built upon mutual respect and understanding, these principles have been egregiously violated in this article. Shame on the morally bankrupt raccoons who have destroyed the integrity of this page. -- William S. Saturn ( talk) 00:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Why is one not listed for him? He was born in Missouri, but a reading of his biographic entry suggests the state listed should probably be California. CaptainCanada ( talk) 23:17, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Color can be used to complement data in the table and enhance the display, but color alone cannot indicate the data. That's why Reywas and I have reverted the table: there is no accessible display of the party in those versions of the table. — C.Fred ( talk) 03:44, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
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I thought he signed around October 18th 2019 Pbmaise ( talk) 02:23, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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A bot has added class=FA to the WikiProject banners on this page, as it's listed as a featured lists. If you see a mistake, please revert, and leave a note on the bot's talk page. Thanks, BOT Giggabot ( talk) 06:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
This seems like an absurd distinction. Lebanese-Americans are a tiny ethnicity, members of which have held other cabinet posts before (Shalala, for instance.) Secretary of Energy is a particularly obscure cabinet post. Why should we be expected to care that Abraham was the first Lebanese-American Secretary of Energy
Featured Articles and Featured Lists are changed all the time. To exclude an infobox on this basis is silly. First of all, if the feature status were to be reviewed, and the infobox was the thing reviewers pointed to as making it no longer a featured list, it could be removed rather quickly. Second, you cannot stop change to a featured article or list just because it has featured status. That would be antithetical to the way Wikipedia works.
Also, protecting your work with such thin reasoning smacks of WP:OWN. We all have the right to make improvements to the articles within the project.
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The chart is not necessary, it pushes the chart down, creates a huge white space and makes the list hard to read. The picture of the current secretary in the chart looks disorganized and takes away from the list's FL quality by taking away the symmetry of images to the right of the list. -- William Saturn ( talk) 22:33, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
How are the political parties useless? Not every time have they been the same as the president's. As politicians, parties are relevant. Why do we need both pictures in the table and redudant pictures next to it? William, you don't own the article, and the fact that it passed FL 2 1/2 years ago does not make it perfect and immutable. By the way, I HAVE tried to discuss the article with you, but you reverted me saying you "couldn't care less." So what makes these contributions "disruptive" and "useless", as you've said? Reywas92 Talk 20:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
The editors restoring content that I added and chose to remove, are editing in a legally acceptable manner, however, it is morally unacceptable, and runs afoul of the moral guidelines we expect other editors to follow. Wikipedia is built upon mutual respect and understanding, these principles have been egregiously violated in this article. Shame on the morally bankrupt raccoons who have destroyed the integrity of this page. -- William S. Saturn ( talk) 00:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Why is one not listed for him? He was born in Missouri, but a reading of his biographic entry suggests the state listed should probably be California. CaptainCanada ( talk) 23:17, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Color can be used to complement data in the table and enhance the display, but color alone cannot indicate the data. That's why Reywas and I have reverted the table: there is no accessible display of the party in those versions of the table. — C.Fred ( talk) 03:44, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
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I thought he signed around October 18th 2019 Pbmaise ( talk) 02:23, 23 November 2019 (UTC)