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1) "The United States Navy commissioned 48 S-Class submarines between 1920 and 1922." S-1 through S-51 were all commissioned. Also, S-42 through S-47 were not even launched till 1923-24.
2) "S-48 through S-51, built by Bethlehem Quincy." These boats were built by Lake at Bridgeport.
3) "Group II (S-2 class, or "Lake" boats): S-2 through S-17..." S-2 was a prototype, substantially different from S-3 through S-17. (24 feet shorter, 3 feet 3 inches more draft, 75 tons lighter, smaller engine; all differences of 9% or more). S-3 was the BuCR design, built at the Portsmouth Navy Yard, as were S-4 through S-13. S-14 through S-17 were built by Lake to the BuCR design. I have created a separated characteristics section for S-2.
4) "Group I (S-1 class, or "Holland" boats)..." Holland was dead for several years; these were "Elco type".
5) Group I had 2 x 600 HP engines, not 2 x 1200 HP engines. The engine company was Busch-Sulzer, not Sultzer.
6) 900 hp = 670 kW, not 670 W.
I am incorporating these corrections to the article.
Also, "The S class is subdivided into four groups of slightly different designs." Slightly? Group I had a draft of 16 ft. Group IV had a draft of 11 ft and was 55 feet longer.
Style tweaks - it isn't necessary to footnote every data item in a description to the same source page. Added a lot of convert templates.
-- Rich Rostrom ( Talk) 19:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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-- 24.148.0.125 ( talk) 19:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Peru purchased 4 "R" class submarines in 1926-28; not the "S" class as the article mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.236.84.156 ( talk) 00:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
According to most renown authors, such us Norman Polmar and Norman Friedman, S-boats were not a class. They were just a series rather, than class. And inside the series, there were no "groups", but classes.... Classes of completely different competing designs of submarines, just different classes AND types:
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So, according to sources, such as The American Submarines, U.S. Submarines through 1945 and Fontenoy's Submarines: An Illustrated History of Their Impact, there was not "S-class submariones", there were just S-1 class, S-42 claas, S-2 claas submarines, S-3 and S-48 class submarines, so-called "S-boats". Each class had different design, sometimes radically different, especially between Hollands-EB's boats and Lake's boats. Calling them all together as "S-class submarines" is a kind of paranoia and paradox. -- Matrek ( talk) 02:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
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1) "The United States Navy commissioned 48 S-Class submarines between 1920 and 1922." S-1 through S-51 were all commissioned. Also, S-42 through S-47 were not even launched till 1923-24.
2) "S-48 through S-51, built by Bethlehem Quincy." These boats were built by Lake at Bridgeport.
3) "Group II (S-2 class, or "Lake" boats): S-2 through S-17..." S-2 was a prototype, substantially different from S-3 through S-17. (24 feet shorter, 3 feet 3 inches more draft, 75 tons lighter, smaller engine; all differences of 9% or more). S-3 was the BuCR design, built at the Portsmouth Navy Yard, as were S-4 through S-13. S-14 through S-17 were built by Lake to the BuCR design. I have created a separated characteristics section for S-2.
4) "Group I (S-1 class, or "Holland" boats)..." Holland was dead for several years; these were "Elco type".
5) Group I had 2 x 600 HP engines, not 2 x 1200 HP engines. The engine company was Busch-Sulzer, not Sultzer.
6) 900 hp = 670 kW, not 670 W.
I am incorporating these corrections to the article.
Also, "The S class is subdivided into four groups of slightly different designs." Slightly? Group I had a draft of 16 ft. Group IV had a draft of 11 ft and was 55 feet longer.
Style tweaks - it isn't necessary to footnote every data item in a description to the same source page. Added a lot of convert templates.
-- Rich Rostrom ( Talk) 19:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
(signature added - I was logged out for time.)
-- 24.148.0.125 ( talk) 19:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Peru purchased 4 "R" class submarines in 1926-28; not the "S" class as the article mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.236.84.156 ( talk) 00:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
According to most renown authors, such us Norman Polmar and Norman Friedman, S-boats were not a class. They were just a series rather, than class. And inside the series, there were no "groups", but classes.... Classes of completely different competing designs of submarines, just different classes AND types:
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So, according to sources, such as The American Submarines, U.S. Submarines through 1945 and Fontenoy's Submarines: An Illustrated History of Their Impact, there was not "S-class submariones", there were just S-1 class, S-42 claas, S-2 claas submarines, S-3 and S-48 class submarines, so-called "S-boats". Each class had different design, sometimes radically different, especially between Hollands-EB's boats and Lake's boats. Calling them all together as "S-class submarines" is a kind of paranoia and paradox. -- Matrek ( talk) 02:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)