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It light of a recent edit and subsequent revert, that leaves the lead current only as of 2015, it might be worthwhile to update and expand this item in the lead. While the USN was the largest, the China PLAN has taken over that distinction as of 2021. But as pointed out in this article from The Diplomat, it's not that simple and straight-forward. While China has a greater overall number of combat vessels, they are largely on the smaller end of the scale in both size and capability. Those numbers seem to be China's only advantage. The US still has more carriers, large combatants, a sizable Coast Guard and of real note; allies. Along with the UK, Commonwealth Nations and NATO, the US is allies with no less than 6 Pac-Rim nations with navies. China's only allied navy is North Korea. I thought I would I post this here and see what discussion and edits it may lead to. - wolf 18:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
A notation regarding this issue was added to the lead History of the United States Navy today, by user ERAGON. So again, perhaps there should be some discussion on this. (@ Fnlayson:... any thoughts?) - wolf 04:58, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Garuda28: you just decided to remove that now, with no further additions or discussion? - wolf 01:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
The US navy used to have the Don't Tread on Me flag or emblem, so what happened to it? Thank you. 2601:647:4000:12E0:9DCD:7FEA:6916:BF16 ( talk) 02:22, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Editor
Wikiuser17 has added |patron=[[Brendan the Navigator|Saint Brendan]]
to the infobox. After the
first addition, I reverted as unsupported. There has now been a
second addition with a source of dubious quality (a retail establishment that sells Catholic paraphernalia). Again, I have reverted with an edit summary mentioning this talk page.
|patron=
has a specific definition in {{
Infobox military unit}}
(quoted from the template's documentation):
The US Navy was not named after Brendan. Personally, I doubt that Brendan is officially recognized by the USN simply because the USN, as a US Government entity, cannot be seen to prefer one religion over any or all other religions.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 00:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
{{
infobox military unit}}
might also want to consider renaming |patron=
to |namesake=
or some such.@ Swatjester: — Okay, thanks for looking out. Yes, I realize some of the information (about how naval history is gathered) is less than adequately sourced. I was in the process of finding reliable sources that cover the material in question specifically. For now, if it's doable, I will only include the generic information about names, ranks, addresses etc, and notable examples (Pearl Harbor) which is straight forward info, which I believe the sources provided cover more than adequately. Below is what I propose to include, with what will be left out striked out.
While at sea the principle method used for crew members to communicate with family, friends and others has always been through the naval mail system. Letters sent by crew members date back since the beginning of the navy, and are often referenced by naval historians and collectors as a supplementary source of information. Reliable accounts about naval history is usually established by historians and journalists who consult letters, logbooks, official documents and newspapers.
Letters and other correspondence sent by commanders, officers and crew members bear names, ranks, signatures, addresses, ship's postmarks and often confirm dates and locations of various ships and crew members during various battles and other naval operations. Among the more notable examples of Naval postal history include letters sent from the USS Arizona before and on December 7 1941. [1] [2] [3]
Who is vice admiral for 53rd fleet 2600:1007:B061:6A74:0:45:7583:A901 ( talk) 01:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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It light of a recent edit and subsequent revert, that leaves the lead current only as of 2015, it might be worthwhile to update and expand this item in the lead. While the USN was the largest, the China PLAN has taken over that distinction as of 2021. But as pointed out in this article from The Diplomat, it's not that simple and straight-forward. While China has a greater overall number of combat vessels, they are largely on the smaller end of the scale in both size and capability. Those numbers seem to be China's only advantage. The US still has more carriers, large combatants, a sizable Coast Guard and of real note; allies. Along with the UK, Commonwealth Nations and NATO, the US is allies with no less than 6 Pac-Rim nations with navies. China's only allied navy is North Korea. I thought I would I post this here and see what discussion and edits it may lead to. - wolf 18:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
A notation regarding this issue was added to the lead History of the United States Navy today, by user ERAGON. So again, perhaps there should be some discussion on this. (@ Fnlayson:... any thoughts?) - wolf 04:58, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
@ Garuda28: you just decided to remove that now, with no further additions or discussion? - wolf 01:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
The US navy used to have the Don't Tread on Me flag or emblem, so what happened to it? Thank you. 2601:647:4000:12E0:9DCD:7FEA:6916:BF16 ( talk) 02:22, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Editor
Wikiuser17 has added |patron=[[Brendan the Navigator|Saint Brendan]]
to the infobox. After the
first addition, I reverted as unsupported. There has now been a
second addition with a source of dubious quality (a retail establishment that sells Catholic paraphernalia). Again, I have reverted with an edit summary mentioning this talk page.
|patron=
has a specific definition in {{
Infobox military unit}}
(quoted from the template's documentation):
The US Navy was not named after Brendan. Personally, I doubt that Brendan is officially recognized by the USN simply because the USN, as a US Government entity, cannot be seen to prefer one religion over any or all other religions.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 00:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
{{
infobox military unit}}
might also want to consider renaming |patron=
to |namesake=
or some such.@ Swatjester: — Okay, thanks for looking out. Yes, I realize some of the information (about how naval history is gathered) is less than adequately sourced. I was in the process of finding reliable sources that cover the material in question specifically. For now, if it's doable, I will only include the generic information about names, ranks, addresses etc, and notable examples (Pearl Harbor) which is straight forward info, which I believe the sources provided cover more than adequately. Below is what I propose to include, with what will be left out striked out.
While at sea the principle method used for crew members to communicate with family, friends and others has always been through the naval mail system. Letters sent by crew members date back since the beginning of the navy, and are often referenced by naval historians and collectors as a supplementary source of information. Reliable accounts about naval history is usually established by historians and journalists who consult letters, logbooks, official documents and newspapers.
Letters and other correspondence sent by commanders, officers and crew members bear names, ranks, signatures, addresses, ship's postmarks and often confirm dates and locations of various ships and crew members during various battles and other naval operations. Among the more notable examples of Naval postal history include letters sent from the USS Arizona before and on December 7 1941. [1] [2] [3]
Who is vice admiral for 53rd fleet 2600:1007:B061:6A74:0:45:7583:A901 ( talk) 01:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)