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This is the list of all mayors who have entered the group. Could use help adding them into the member list + links to their pages.
2601:603:1400:3FDD:B463:99ED:9FF2:E21B ( talk) 01:31, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Do the different shades of green signify something? If not, why are the member states shaded differently? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.173.3 ( talk) 05:34, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
The map should be showing 10 states. How can the states shown on the map be expanded? Fconaway ( talk) 06:10, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
User:69.137.160.239 has been adding a section about legality:
States are prohibited from "enter[ing] into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign power.” U.S. Const. art. I, § 10, cl. 3[6]
This is a fair question and I'm sure something that has been raised elsewhere, but I and others have been removing it for lack of reliable sourcing to make it not a statement of original research WP:NOR. Rather than continuing to revert, is there a source out there that is raising the question of legality? If so, let's get that added to the article. If not, I think we have to treat the statement as original research. -- Avram ( talk)
Hi from germany,
I guess these states like california do not really want sign the Paris agreement formally, but they want to fulfill the contents, which I really appreciate. We must thank california for giving pressure to the car manufactures to improve the engines, so I guess it is not so much a legal issue
best regards, Horst
Gov. Malloy just announced Connecticut would be joining the USCA ( http://portal.ct.gov/Office-of-the-Governor/Press-Room/Press-Releases/2017/06-2017/Gov-Malloy-Adds-CT-to-Coalition-of-States-Committed-to-Upholding-the-Paris-Climate-Agreement). I've updated the map and someone has added it to the list on this page with a source, but the population and other figures need updating. Thanks! Redtitan 18:07, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
People keep re-adding the claim that all 10 of the country's largest cities are members of the Mayors Climate Action Agenda. That is not true, because San Diego is not listed on the organization's website http://www.climate-mayors.org/ as a member. (There is a star on their map in the general area of San Diego, but that represents the nearby city of Chula Vista.) The correct information is that 9 out of the country's 10 largest cities are members of the Mayors Climate Action Agenda.
I have actually written to the mayor of San Diego suggesting that he join, but until that happens, San Diego is not a member, and please stop falsely claiming that all 10 of the country's largest cities are members. -- MelanieN ( talk) 00:35, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
When does Oregon qualify as having joined the USCA? Here is a report from Oregon Public Broadcasting that says the governor, Kate Brown, has committed to the USCA. Is there a threshold to consider a state a member state? >< http://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-paris-climate-change-goals-kate-brown/>( Daniel.james.westcott ( talk) 04:07, 3 June 2017 (UTC))
I don't think Pureto Rico is a US state or city. Why is it listed in the table and infographic? 146.198.224.191 ( talk) 11:40, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
There are several problems that arise from Puerto Rico's inclusion, especially now that it is part of the alliance.
Joel Amos ( talk) 20:44, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States, thus it belongs on a table/infographic dedicated to the states AND territories of the US that are members of the US Climate Alliance
HiMrObama (
talk) 23:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Again, it is unfair to exclude Puerto Rico (an actual territory of the United States) from being considered as an equal piece of the US. If you still don't understand this, maybe take up your argument with California Governor Jerry Brown, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, or Washington Governor Jay Inslee because I am sure that they would be glad to tell you about the importance of treating every US citizen as equal people. Thank you for your understanding and I hope you revert your last edit. If not, I will and I hope you have the decency to not revert it yet again. Best regards HiMrObama ( talk) 00:27, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Washington DC is (as a city) already member of the Mayors National Climate Action Agenda. Do anyone know if they can now also join the United States Climate Alliance as a district? If the answer is no, we should not list them as a potential member in the article - and remove the Washington DC circle from the "member map" in the infobox. Our Carbon dioxide emission source provides data for Washington DC, but feature no data for the 5 territories (incl. Puerto Rico). But I do not know if this data source can help to solve the question about their eligibility to the US Climate Alliance? Danish Expert ( talk) 12:51, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
In the map at the top showing which states have officially joined the USCA, Virginia is shown in green, which according to the legend means that "governing officials have expressed support for the Paris Agreement". However, in the "Members" table, Virginia is listed as an actual member. Which one is wrong? -- Joshualouie711 talk 18:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Since this is a current event, the map of which states are in the US Climate Alliance needs to be updated. Many states that have previously shown interest in the US Climate Alliance have since joined. How would I go about updating the map? Thanks! Booklover19a ( talk) 22:07, 5 June 2017 (UTC)booklover19a
It seems to me Washington DC just joined the alliance, according to a Washington Post article published only an hour ago. I think its time to move it from a potential member to the actual members list. - Bokmanrocks01 ( talk) 23:28, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
I disagree with the inclusion of a "declined" section in this article. Let's keep it to those that have joined or might join. The Alliance is a voluntary thing, there is no need to account for the position (or lack of a position) of all 50 governors (and a few other possible candidates). In fact including this could seem like kind of a Hall of Shame. -- MelanieN ( talk) 17:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Here's the spreadsheet: US Climate Alliance.xlsx
All you have to do is add or remove states from the first two rows, and all of the numbers should update accordingly. Upon adding a state, you must click the filter button in row 8 to include that state in the results. Bolded values should appear somewhere in this article. Joel Amos ( talk) 06:14, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
I can't find any statements from the governors of these states in support of the Paris agreement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.172.238.142 ( talk) 17:53, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
USCA official website finally was launched on 13 July 2017. Infobox is now updated with this official website link. The website will feature info on:
Its a source for future update work on the article. In example, we might already now consider to create a subchapter entitled "Guiding principles", as 3 such guiding principles now has been announced. Danish Expert ( talk) 13:16, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
===Is there a source for Pennsylvania opting out of the petition to encourage the president to reconsider the Paris Agreement decision? Also, the usage of "boasts" in reference to the claims made by the US climate alliance lacks neutrality. Do you think changing the word to "claims" or taking that part out altogether (since it is a primary source) would be better? Picta213 ( talk) 23:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Should we do this? I think it's a good idea as there is already a subsection in the article for it. 24.5.219.24 ( talk) 15:03, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
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This article right now is rated "start class", and while it isn't unusual to skip classes to WP:GA I noticed right away multiple issues. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 13:34, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
I was asked by Barkeep49 to look over the review and offer some feedback since this is his first review.
Those are the only comments I have for now. Nice work for your first outing as a reviewer. Argento Surfer ( talk) 18:26, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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We should highlight Montana in the map.--
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How has this organization been impacted by the US rejoining the Agreement under Joe Biden? Glades12 ( talk) 13:35, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/lombardo-withdraws-state-from-us-climate-alliance-2871583/ Nvblue ( talk) 19:19, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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This is the list of all mayors who have entered the group. Could use help adding them into the member list + links to their pages.
2601:603:1400:3FDD:B463:99ED:9FF2:E21B ( talk) 01:31, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Do the different shades of green signify something? If not, why are the member states shaded differently? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.173.3 ( talk) 05:34, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
The map should be showing 10 states. How can the states shown on the map be expanded? Fconaway ( talk) 06:10, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
User:69.137.160.239 has been adding a section about legality:
States are prohibited from "enter[ing] into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign power.” U.S. Const. art. I, § 10, cl. 3[6]
This is a fair question and I'm sure something that has been raised elsewhere, but I and others have been removing it for lack of reliable sourcing to make it not a statement of original research WP:NOR. Rather than continuing to revert, is there a source out there that is raising the question of legality? If so, let's get that added to the article. If not, I think we have to treat the statement as original research. -- Avram ( talk)
Hi from germany,
I guess these states like california do not really want sign the Paris agreement formally, but they want to fulfill the contents, which I really appreciate. We must thank california for giving pressure to the car manufactures to improve the engines, so I guess it is not so much a legal issue
best regards, Horst
Gov. Malloy just announced Connecticut would be joining the USCA ( http://portal.ct.gov/Office-of-the-Governor/Press-Room/Press-Releases/2017/06-2017/Gov-Malloy-Adds-CT-to-Coalition-of-States-Committed-to-Upholding-the-Paris-Climate-Agreement). I've updated the map and someone has added it to the list on this page with a source, but the population and other figures need updating. Thanks! Redtitan 18:07, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
People keep re-adding the claim that all 10 of the country's largest cities are members of the Mayors Climate Action Agenda. That is not true, because San Diego is not listed on the organization's website http://www.climate-mayors.org/ as a member. (There is a star on their map in the general area of San Diego, but that represents the nearby city of Chula Vista.) The correct information is that 9 out of the country's 10 largest cities are members of the Mayors Climate Action Agenda.
I have actually written to the mayor of San Diego suggesting that he join, but until that happens, San Diego is not a member, and please stop falsely claiming that all 10 of the country's largest cities are members. -- MelanieN ( talk) 00:35, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
When does Oregon qualify as having joined the USCA? Here is a report from Oregon Public Broadcasting that says the governor, Kate Brown, has committed to the USCA. Is there a threshold to consider a state a member state? >< http://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-paris-climate-change-goals-kate-brown/>( Daniel.james.westcott ( talk) 04:07, 3 June 2017 (UTC))
I don't think Pureto Rico is a US state or city. Why is it listed in the table and infographic? 146.198.224.191 ( talk) 11:40, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
There are several problems that arise from Puerto Rico's inclusion, especially now that it is part of the alliance.
Joel Amos ( talk) 20:44, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States, thus it belongs on a table/infographic dedicated to the states AND territories of the US that are members of the US Climate Alliance
HiMrObama (
talk) 23:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Again, it is unfair to exclude Puerto Rico (an actual territory of the United States) from being considered as an equal piece of the US. If you still don't understand this, maybe take up your argument with California Governor Jerry Brown, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, or Washington Governor Jay Inslee because I am sure that they would be glad to tell you about the importance of treating every US citizen as equal people. Thank you for your understanding and I hope you revert your last edit. If not, I will and I hope you have the decency to not revert it yet again. Best regards HiMrObama ( talk) 00:27, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Washington DC is (as a city) already member of the Mayors National Climate Action Agenda. Do anyone know if they can now also join the United States Climate Alliance as a district? If the answer is no, we should not list them as a potential member in the article - and remove the Washington DC circle from the "member map" in the infobox. Our Carbon dioxide emission source provides data for Washington DC, but feature no data for the 5 territories (incl. Puerto Rico). But I do not know if this data source can help to solve the question about their eligibility to the US Climate Alliance? Danish Expert ( talk) 12:51, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
In the map at the top showing which states have officially joined the USCA, Virginia is shown in green, which according to the legend means that "governing officials have expressed support for the Paris Agreement". However, in the "Members" table, Virginia is listed as an actual member. Which one is wrong? -- Joshualouie711 talk 18:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Since this is a current event, the map of which states are in the US Climate Alliance needs to be updated. Many states that have previously shown interest in the US Climate Alliance have since joined. How would I go about updating the map? Thanks! Booklover19a ( talk) 22:07, 5 June 2017 (UTC)booklover19a
It seems to me Washington DC just joined the alliance, according to a Washington Post article published only an hour ago. I think its time to move it from a potential member to the actual members list. - Bokmanrocks01 ( talk) 23:28, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
I disagree with the inclusion of a "declined" section in this article. Let's keep it to those that have joined or might join. The Alliance is a voluntary thing, there is no need to account for the position (or lack of a position) of all 50 governors (and a few other possible candidates). In fact including this could seem like kind of a Hall of Shame. -- MelanieN ( talk) 17:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Here's the spreadsheet: US Climate Alliance.xlsx
All you have to do is add or remove states from the first two rows, and all of the numbers should update accordingly. Upon adding a state, you must click the filter button in row 8 to include that state in the results. Bolded values should appear somewhere in this article. Joel Amos ( talk) 06:14, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
I can't find any statements from the governors of these states in support of the Paris agreement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.172.238.142 ( talk) 17:53, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
USCA official website finally was launched on 13 July 2017. Infobox is now updated with this official website link. The website will feature info on:
Its a source for future update work on the article. In example, we might already now consider to create a subchapter entitled "Guiding principles", as 3 such guiding principles now has been announced. Danish Expert ( talk) 13:16, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
===Is there a source for Pennsylvania opting out of the petition to encourage the president to reconsider the Paris Agreement decision? Also, the usage of "boasts" in reference to the claims made by the US climate alliance lacks neutrality. Do you think changing the word to "claims" or taking that part out altogether (since it is a primary source) would be better? Picta213 ( talk) 23:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Should we do this? I think it's a good idea as there is already a subsection in the article for it. 24.5.219.24 ( talk) 15:03, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
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Lots of good work has been done on a fairly new topic. As noted below there is more work to be done to get this up to GA. I am new to GA reviewing myself but am happy to work through what we can together. Bear with me if some of the ratings change as I enlist help of other experienced reviewers to check my work.
This article right now is rated "start class", and while it isn't unusual to skip classes to WP:GA I noticed right away multiple issues. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 13:34, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
I was asked by Barkeep49 to look over the review and offer some feedback since this is his first review.
Those are the only comments I have for now. Nice work for your first outing as a reviewer. Argento Surfer ( talk) 18:26, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
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We should highlight Montana in the map.--
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How has this organization been impacted by the US rejoining the Agreement under Joe Biden? Glades12 ( talk) 13:35, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/lombardo-withdraws-state-from-us-climate-alliance-2871583/ Nvblue ( talk) 19:19, 26 July 2023 (UTC)