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In 2003 when UPS unveiled its new logo, it formalized a policy that they had been implementing for a few years, of not referring to the company as "United Parcel Service". You can see this gradual transformation if you go to the UPS Pressroom archives and compare press releases from 1999, say, to those of 2004. While the company is still officially titled, "United Parcel Service of America, Co", it is not "known" as such any longer. Employees have been instructed to answer the phones as "UPS" and not "United Parcel Service", for example. Also notice that a major part of the logo change in 2003 involved removing the "package" - the box and strings - that had been part of various logos since the company's inception. This is part of the company's strategy to diversify beyond parcels and into capital, logistics, freight, etc. SSherris 21:04, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I have worked at UPS since 2002; we are still known as United Parcel Service. My email signature includes "United Parcel Service". Most written material has United Parcel Service copyright. Obviously our internal materials are protected and I cannot provide any examples here. "UPS" is simply the initialized format for the formal name of our company. Do an online search for our stock quote (UPS) and you will see it is formalized as United Parcel Service. This is like comparing AOL vs America Online; it's the same company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.211.46.240 ( talk) 19:41, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Anchorage, Alaska is listed in various UPS press releases as UPS's central hub for all packages transiting from the US to East Asia. As such, I would guess it should be listed in the table of hubs. However, I can't find any references to the hub identifiers (even the ones listed in this article) anywhere on UPS.com or anywhere else on the Web (with the exception of Wikipedia mirrors), so I didn't want to add it to the table. Anyone who work for UPS know about this? (See the section I added re: the UPS hub in the Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport article--can you confirm the size of the hub in terms of packages per hour, etc.? cluth 07:24, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
The hub list is far from complete. If it keeps getting added to, maybe it should be moved to a new page? I reordered it by SLIC numbers. ASchmoo 06:42, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
I question the hyphenation of the hub SLICs (sort codes). The only time a SLIC is hyphenated is on a package label - and only then for readability - UPS internally uses just the plain number. -armchairexec 11.04.2005
I removed this sillyness: ", so that minor parking violations (endemic to the courier business) can be dismissed in court for incompleteness. citation needed" from trivia. UPS packages cars are not marked with the manufacturer's name due to it not having an advertising contract with the manufacturer. Some UPS Tractors are now bearing the Mack Bulldog. N9urk 13:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
It looks to me like a ton of corporate advertising got dumped into this article, especially the timeline. Anyone have any opinions on what should go and what should stay, or is it all relevant? ASchmoo 21:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
The timeline is from upsers.com, as is the trivia fact about the broadway play. There is an entire page devoted to company history.
Is the link to BuyBlue.org appropriate? One user in particular keeps re-adding this link to the article but I do not think it is relevant to the nature of the article - ie, UPS' operations and history. Also, I doubt BuyBlue.org espouses a NPOV, so linking to it, IMO, adds a certain bias. -armchairexec
In 2005, UPS was among 53 entities that contributed the maximum of $250,000 to the second inauguration of President George W. Bush.
Are political contributions of a corporation relevant, because this is the first article about a corporation that I have seen containing a 'factoid' on political contributions in the timeline, a political contribution does not merit enough significance for inclusion in a timeline, it should be removed completely or have a new home found for it somewhere else on the page. -- Irishman76m ( talk) 23:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Political contributions of corporations are very relavent to the make up of the UPS organization. If you have a better link that shows political contributions please add it to the wiki page. I am only linking to buyblue.org unbiased write up of the organization. It simply has a brief description of the company with no bias, and the political contributions in the last election cycle. Simple and plane as day. I do not see any problem with this. I hope you do not feel threatened by this information. It's nothing to be ashamed of or proud of. It is simply fact. If you would like to get a moderator to figure this out that would be fine. Until then I will keep editing the page if you un-edit it. I am prepared to defend my edit.
Here is where buyblue get's it's information. To answer your question, yes it is a government source. And I quote from buyblue.org:
"To ensure that the ratings are truly comparable, we adhere to a strict research protocol involving the following three sources: Hoovers.com; Federal Election Commission; and the Center for Responsive Politics. On Hoovers.com, we find the names of the top three key executives in a chosen company, as well as the names of executives of the company’s subsidiaries. We also get short company summaries, company addresses, phone numbers, fax numbers, and company websites from this site. The company websites help us identify top officers. We research all of these sources to make sure our information is accurate and up to date. When BuyBlue.org tallies political contributions, we get our information from the Federal Elections Commission site. We only consider donations from the three senior executives identified by the company website and by Hoovers.com, and any donations from Political Action Committees (PACs) associated with the company. We also count donations from spouses of senior executives, but only when we can confirm the relationship beyond a reasonable doubt. We never count contributions from rank and file employees in our data. We use The Center for Responsive Politics site to gather PAC information about a company because their presentation makes it easy to identify the distribution of the contributions of PACs between Democrats and Republicans. For each PAC we find, we summarize the spending for the election cycle and provide a link to opensecrets.org so you can examine the details if you wish."
Tonight, I moved this sillyness out of the article: *According to the Seattle Underground Tour and the books it is based on, UPS started as messenger service whose clients were primarily prostitutes and their solicitors.
I have never heard this, but I did hear rumor that the early company meetings were held in a bar.
I removed the following text from the article namespace:
The text appears to be mostly a direct copyvio from [2]. - orion eight ( talk) 02:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed some dumped text about the airplane makeup - JamesCox
This article, from the fourth paragraph through the timeline, reads like a PR brochure. I would refer you to FedEx's entry for an example of a more nuetral and informative article. I intend to write an alternative entry in the weeks to come. UPSer 21:16, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Is this site POV? http://unitedpackagesmashers.com/?page=packages.php DyslexicEditor 14:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed the following text. It's unsourced, POV, and this article isn't a newspaper article, it's an encyclopedia article, so this "controversy" is just too short-term to include.
kmccoy (talk) 14:08, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
It should be noted that the package cars UPS are so famous for are not seen outside of the US (or possibly Canada). Here in Australia there are no UPS package cars. Of course, UPS is not nearly as common here, but they still have the trademark brown vans. The vans are almost all small 2.4L Toyota Hiace vans (picture something about 2/3 the size of a Ford Econoline), with manual transmissions. Very lame. Davez621 10:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Seems you don't get out of Australia much. UPS Brown is seen in most countries, in fact UPS in Germany has been for many years and the same package car design and color are utilized there.
In Germany, we don´t have exectly the same design. The headlights are not round. They are square. And the backdoor is parted in two doors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.200.172.168 ( talk) 18:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
When UPS entered the UK market they had a fleet of vans built by Mercedes based on the American designs. These certainly stood out on the street but not always for good reasons - they were impractically large for multidrop operation in UK residential streets, and the sliding front doors are amost unknown in modern vehicles and are perceived as dangerous. They are now adding some more conventional Mercedes panel vans to the fleet. -- Ef80 ( talk) 13:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm removing the trailer code numbers because it's not complete/entirely accurate, and seems unnecessary—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.18.242.14 ( talk • contribs) .
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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In 2003 when UPS unveiled its new logo, it formalized a policy that they had been implementing for a few years, of not referring to the company as "United Parcel Service". You can see this gradual transformation if you go to the UPS Pressroom archives and compare press releases from 1999, say, to those of 2004. While the company is still officially titled, "United Parcel Service of America, Co", it is not "known" as such any longer. Employees have been instructed to answer the phones as "UPS" and not "United Parcel Service", for example. Also notice that a major part of the logo change in 2003 involved removing the "package" - the box and strings - that had been part of various logos since the company's inception. This is part of the company's strategy to diversify beyond parcels and into capital, logistics, freight, etc. SSherris 21:04, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I have worked at UPS since 2002; we are still known as United Parcel Service. My email signature includes "United Parcel Service". Most written material has United Parcel Service copyright. Obviously our internal materials are protected and I cannot provide any examples here. "UPS" is simply the initialized format for the formal name of our company. Do an online search for our stock quote (UPS) and you will see it is formalized as United Parcel Service. This is like comparing AOL vs America Online; it's the same company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.211.46.240 ( talk) 19:41, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Anchorage, Alaska is listed in various UPS press releases as UPS's central hub for all packages transiting from the US to East Asia. As such, I would guess it should be listed in the table of hubs. However, I can't find any references to the hub identifiers (even the ones listed in this article) anywhere on UPS.com or anywhere else on the Web (with the exception of Wikipedia mirrors), so I didn't want to add it to the table. Anyone who work for UPS know about this? (See the section I added re: the UPS hub in the Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport article--can you confirm the size of the hub in terms of packages per hour, etc.? cluth 07:24, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
The hub list is far from complete. If it keeps getting added to, maybe it should be moved to a new page? I reordered it by SLIC numbers. ASchmoo 06:42, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
I question the hyphenation of the hub SLICs (sort codes). The only time a SLIC is hyphenated is on a package label - and only then for readability - UPS internally uses just the plain number. -armchairexec 11.04.2005
I removed this sillyness: ", so that minor parking violations (endemic to the courier business) can be dismissed in court for incompleteness. citation needed" from trivia. UPS packages cars are not marked with the manufacturer's name due to it not having an advertising contract with the manufacturer. Some UPS Tractors are now bearing the Mack Bulldog. N9urk 13:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
It looks to me like a ton of corporate advertising got dumped into this article, especially the timeline. Anyone have any opinions on what should go and what should stay, or is it all relevant? ASchmoo 21:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
The timeline is from upsers.com, as is the trivia fact about the broadway play. There is an entire page devoted to company history.
Is the link to BuyBlue.org appropriate? One user in particular keeps re-adding this link to the article but I do not think it is relevant to the nature of the article - ie, UPS' operations and history. Also, I doubt BuyBlue.org espouses a NPOV, so linking to it, IMO, adds a certain bias. -armchairexec
In 2005, UPS was among 53 entities that contributed the maximum of $250,000 to the second inauguration of President George W. Bush.
Are political contributions of a corporation relevant, because this is the first article about a corporation that I have seen containing a 'factoid' on political contributions in the timeline, a political contribution does not merit enough significance for inclusion in a timeline, it should be removed completely or have a new home found for it somewhere else on the page. -- Irishman76m ( talk) 23:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Political contributions of corporations are very relavent to the make up of the UPS organization. If you have a better link that shows political contributions please add it to the wiki page. I am only linking to buyblue.org unbiased write up of the organization. It simply has a brief description of the company with no bias, and the political contributions in the last election cycle. Simple and plane as day. I do not see any problem with this. I hope you do not feel threatened by this information. It's nothing to be ashamed of or proud of. It is simply fact. If you would like to get a moderator to figure this out that would be fine. Until then I will keep editing the page if you un-edit it. I am prepared to defend my edit.
Here is where buyblue get's it's information. To answer your question, yes it is a government source. And I quote from buyblue.org:
"To ensure that the ratings are truly comparable, we adhere to a strict research protocol involving the following three sources: Hoovers.com; Federal Election Commission; and the Center for Responsive Politics. On Hoovers.com, we find the names of the top three key executives in a chosen company, as well as the names of executives of the company’s subsidiaries. We also get short company summaries, company addresses, phone numbers, fax numbers, and company websites from this site. The company websites help us identify top officers. We research all of these sources to make sure our information is accurate and up to date. When BuyBlue.org tallies political contributions, we get our information from the Federal Elections Commission site. We only consider donations from the three senior executives identified by the company website and by Hoovers.com, and any donations from Political Action Committees (PACs) associated with the company. We also count donations from spouses of senior executives, but only when we can confirm the relationship beyond a reasonable doubt. We never count contributions from rank and file employees in our data. We use The Center for Responsive Politics site to gather PAC information about a company because their presentation makes it easy to identify the distribution of the contributions of PACs between Democrats and Republicans. For each PAC we find, we summarize the spending for the election cycle and provide a link to opensecrets.org so you can examine the details if you wish."
Tonight, I moved this sillyness out of the article: *According to the Seattle Underground Tour and the books it is based on, UPS started as messenger service whose clients were primarily prostitutes and their solicitors.
I have never heard this, but I did hear rumor that the early company meetings were held in a bar.
I removed the following text from the article namespace:
The text appears to be mostly a direct copyvio from [2]. - orion eight ( talk) 02:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed some dumped text about the airplane makeup - JamesCox
This article, from the fourth paragraph through the timeline, reads like a PR brochure. I would refer you to FedEx's entry for an example of a more nuetral and informative article. I intend to write an alternative entry in the weeks to come. UPSer 21:16, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Is this site POV? http://unitedpackagesmashers.com/?page=packages.php DyslexicEditor 14:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed the following text. It's unsourced, POV, and this article isn't a newspaper article, it's an encyclopedia article, so this "controversy" is just too short-term to include.
kmccoy (talk) 14:08, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
It should be noted that the package cars UPS are so famous for are not seen outside of the US (or possibly Canada). Here in Australia there are no UPS package cars. Of course, UPS is not nearly as common here, but they still have the trademark brown vans. The vans are almost all small 2.4L Toyota Hiace vans (picture something about 2/3 the size of a Ford Econoline), with manual transmissions. Very lame. Davez621 10:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Seems you don't get out of Australia much. UPS Brown is seen in most countries, in fact UPS in Germany has been for many years and the same package car design and color are utilized there.
In Germany, we don´t have exectly the same design. The headlights are not round. They are square. And the backdoor is parted in two doors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.200.172.168 ( talk) 18:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
When UPS entered the UK market they had a fleet of vans built by Mercedes based on the American designs. These certainly stood out on the street but not always for good reasons - they were impractically large for multidrop operation in UK residential streets, and the sliding front doors are amost unknown in modern vehicles and are perceived as dangerous. They are now adding some more conventional Mercedes panel vans to the fleet. -- Ef80 ( talk) 13:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm removing the trailer code numbers because it's not complete/entirely accurate, and seems unnecessary—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.18.242.14 ( talk • contribs) .