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Why is there three links to the resolution 1701 draft? The links are identical. Michagal 07:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
The link to resolution 1701 is broken. Quinty 15 August 2006
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Please add something about the fact that the resolution doesn't force any actions concerning the two Israeli soldiers captured by Hizbollah at the beggining of the conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by M vitaly ( talk • contribs)
It is original research for us to make that connection (and thus not allowed) but if a reliable source claims a noteable person said something to that effect, including it would be allowed. WAS 4.250 19:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Uh? No? The resolution is written right there. It would not be original research to say such, it would be republication of a confirmed fact from a reliable source. In fact, I think I'll add it in right now. ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 16:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I think undue weight is given in the article concerning Hizbollah, but since they started this latest tiff, maybe I'm wrong about that. WAS 4.250 19:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I think the 32 Israeli soldiers (not sure about that number, though) were killed in the last *2* days, not one. And if this is mentioned, it should also include how many Hizballah men were killed (something like 50-80 according to IDF). Perhaps I'll look for that info later, but if someone already knows... Also, the 250 rockets may have been from a day earlier. 88.154.223.21 21:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
The cease-fire has just been violated, where do we put that. -- Deenoe 14:05, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
The Lebanese government is demanding that the UN address Israel's commando raid, stating that it is a violation of the ceasefire. They also threatened to stop sending into southern Lebanon. Sounds important. Triumph's Hour 04:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- There is a problem here. The article goes "Two days later, fifteen Lebanese civilians from Kfar Shuba, carrying Lebanese and Hizbullah flags, crossed into the Israeli occupied Shebaa Farms. The IDF took no action to the provocation, but stressed that it was a violation of Resolution 1701. The United Nations confirmed that Hezbollah violated the resolution and that the group is rearming." - Thing is, since Israel is illegally occupying the Shebaa farms, that are generally considered Lebanese (or Syrian), it was the Israelis who violated the resolution by continued occupation; not the 15 Lebanese civilians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schlätzmeister ( talk • contribs) 16:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Can someone break it up into appropriate sections? -- Ķĩřβȳ ♥ Ťįɱé Ø 06:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone with knowledge on the right spelling please correct it. In the latest articles it is spelled in a myriad of ways which is inappropriate for a source of reliable information.
I suggest that the full text of the resolution be deleted. Anybody who wants to read it can simply click one of several links. JiHymas@himivest.com 19:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Some joker added Austria-Hungary and East Germany to the nations potentially sending troops... seems to be a couple of years retarted!
France is boosting their contingent to 2000 troops from 200 due to national and international political pressure. ralian 07:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
--Background--
I think that we should move this section towards the end ... thoughts? -- Epeefleche 05:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I established a wiki calle Debatus - www.debatus.com - "for refining and structuring argumentation and debate". There is a substantial debate article on the site on UN Resolution 1701 - "Is UN SC Resolution 1701 and the ceasefire it brokers between Hezbollah and Israel likely to succeed in its objectives? (was it reasonable)?" I was not able to make the "external link" to the site myself on the UN SC Res 1701 page because I created Debatus, which makes sense. I think that this link should be posted by someone else, though, because the merits of the content on this subject are very high on the site, and it is a natural extension of Wikipedia's mission over to argumentation and debate. What does everyone else think? Could a concensus be built for someone to make that "external link"? Brooks Lindsay 22:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
It seems that the term UNIFIL II is widespread used in the press, but I miss that as an official term within the UN (or, so far, haven't found a source). -- 213.155.224.232 17:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
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I'm actively checking and fixing links at the moment - I'd appreciate it if people didn't update this page for an hour or so. (It's not the end of the world if you do - just more work for me.) Finished. --
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Regarding: http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200701/kt2007011518124268040.htm "350 S. Korean Troops to Keep Peace in Lebanon"
I can't find it in archive.org or webcite.
The KT archive is currently not working (2014-04-19), but might be fixed - this would be the preferable option. http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/search/search_main.asp
Less good, but possibly acceptable, the text appears to be here: http://www.10452lccc.com/daily%20news%20bulletin/january.english16.07.htm (archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20071011073850/http://10452lccc.com/daily%20news%20bulletin/january.english16.07.htm)
-- Otus scops ( talk) 10:33, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
I have removed the propaganda image from the IDF Flickr account, and updated the information based on the 2015 report here. Please try to find something neutral to add, and if you can't find it, try to find something which addresses both sides. The propaganda image is simply talking about Lebanese (not Hezbollah's - that is silly - the responsibility lies with govt. of Lebanon) violations. As the UN report notes, there are almost daily violations of Lebanese airspace by Israeli flights. Kindly have some respect for WP:NPOV and not add such propaganda willy-nilly. Especially pictures, which are worth a thousand words, proverbially. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 14:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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In the section, Alleged Lebanese violations,
Kfar Shuba to village has an article
Kfarchouba.
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During the recent events in southern Lebanon, Israel allegedly violated 1701 by bombing areas near the border and should be noted in both Alleged Israeli violations Hezbollah violations area.
President Aoun: Israel’s use of its air force to target Lebanese villages is the first of its kind since 2006 and indicates the presence of escalating aggressive intentions that coincide with the continuous threats against Lebanon and its sovereignty. What happened is a flagrant and dangerous violation of Security Council Resolution 1701 and a direct threat to security and stability in the south.
Saad Hariri: The situation on the border with the Israeli enemy is very, very dangerous and an unprecedented threat to Resolution 1701 Using the south as a platform for regional conflicts with uncalculated results and repercussions is a step into the unknown that puts all of Lebanon in the crosshairs of the wars of others on its land.
Israel uses drones daily in lebanese sovereign territories and I think that should also be noted in the Alleged Israeli violations area. Prodrummer619 ( talk) 20:51, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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In the Hezbollah subsection under Disarmament of armed groups in Lebanon, should the hyperlink to United Nations Secretary-General and Kofi Annan be in the third paragraph where Annan is first mentioned instead of the fifth paragraph. Mrprotest ( talk) 11:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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Please note that the included full text is of the draft resolution taken on 12 August. When the adopted draft has been reformatted and re-published by the UN as a proper resolution, that text should be added to all the existing UN resolutions in Wikisource, and the current text should be replaced by a link to that text. Thomas Blomberg 17:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Just because it's a draft doesn't mean it belongs here and not in Wikisource. — Timwi 23:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Why is there three links to the resolution 1701 draft? The links are identical. Michagal 07:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
The link to resolution 1701 is broken. Quinty 15 August 2006
As an admin at English Wikisource, I would like to remind that ALL works published at the UN Headquarters in New York after 1 March 1989 are automatically copyrighted by American law by default, so Wikisource cannot have them for 95 years since publication. However, case-by-case exemption may be granted if it can be proved that the United States Government has prepared the underlying texts.-- Jusjih 16:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
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Please add something about the fact that the resolution doesn't force any actions concerning the two Israeli soldiers captured by Hizbollah at the beggining of the conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by M vitaly ( talk • contribs)
It is original research for us to make that connection (and thus not allowed) but if a reliable source claims a noteable person said something to that effect, including it would be allowed. WAS 4.250 19:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Uh? No? The resolution is written right there. It would not be original research to say such, it would be republication of a confirmed fact from a reliable source. In fact, I think I'll add it in right now. ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 16:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I think undue weight is given in the article concerning Hizbollah, but since they started this latest tiff, maybe I'm wrong about that. WAS 4.250 19:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I think the 32 Israeli soldiers (not sure about that number, though) were killed in the last *2* days, not one. And if this is mentioned, it should also include how many Hizballah men were killed (something like 50-80 according to IDF). Perhaps I'll look for that info later, but if someone already knows... Also, the 250 rockets may have been from a day earlier. 88.154.223.21 21:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
The cease-fire has just been violated, where do we put that. -- Deenoe 14:05, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
The Lebanese government is demanding that the UN address Israel's commando raid, stating that it is a violation of the ceasefire. They also threatened to stop sending into southern Lebanon. Sounds important. Triumph's Hour 04:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- There is a problem here. The article goes "Two days later, fifteen Lebanese civilians from Kfar Shuba, carrying Lebanese and Hizbullah flags, crossed into the Israeli occupied Shebaa Farms. The IDF took no action to the provocation, but stressed that it was a violation of Resolution 1701. The United Nations confirmed that Hezbollah violated the resolution and that the group is rearming." - Thing is, since Israel is illegally occupying the Shebaa farms, that are generally considered Lebanese (or Syrian), it was the Israelis who violated the resolution by continued occupation; not the 15 Lebanese civilians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schlätzmeister ( talk • contribs) 16:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Can someone break it up into appropriate sections? -- Ķĩřβȳ ♥ Ťįɱé Ø 06:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone with knowledge on the right spelling please correct it. In the latest articles it is spelled in a myriad of ways which is inappropriate for a source of reliable information.
I suggest that the full text of the resolution be deleted. Anybody who wants to read it can simply click one of several links. JiHymas@himivest.com 19:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Some joker added Austria-Hungary and East Germany to the nations potentially sending troops... seems to be a couple of years retarted!
France is boosting their contingent to 2000 troops from 200 due to national and international political pressure. ralian 07:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
--Background--
I think that we should move this section towards the end ... thoughts? -- Epeefleche 05:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I established a wiki calle Debatus - www.debatus.com - "for refining and structuring argumentation and debate". There is a substantial debate article on the site on UN Resolution 1701 - "Is UN SC Resolution 1701 and the ceasefire it brokers between Hezbollah and Israel likely to succeed in its objectives? (was it reasonable)?" I was not able to make the "external link" to the site myself on the UN SC Res 1701 page because I created Debatus, which makes sense. I think that this link should be posted by someone else, though, because the merits of the content on this subject are very high on the site, and it is a natural extension of Wikipedia's mission over to argumentation and debate. What does everyone else think? Could a concensus be built for someone to make that "external link"? Brooks Lindsay 22:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
It seems that the term UNIFIL II is widespread used in the press, but I miss that as an official term within the UN (or, so far, haven't found a source). -- 213.155.224.232 17:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
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I'm actively checking and fixing links at the moment - I'd appreciate it if people didn't update this page for an hour or so. (It's not the end of the world if you do - just more work for me.) Finished. --
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Regarding: http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200701/kt2007011518124268040.htm "350 S. Korean Troops to Keep Peace in Lebanon"
I can't find it in archive.org or webcite.
The KT archive is currently not working (2014-04-19), but might be fixed - this would be the preferable option. http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/search/search_main.asp
Less good, but possibly acceptable, the text appears to be here: http://www.10452lccc.com/daily%20news%20bulletin/january.english16.07.htm (archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20071011073850/http://10452lccc.com/daily%20news%20bulletin/january.english16.07.htm)
-- Otus scops ( talk) 10:33, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
I have removed the propaganda image from the IDF Flickr account, and updated the information based on the 2015 report here. Please try to find something neutral to add, and if you can't find it, try to find something which addresses both sides. The propaganda image is simply talking about Lebanese (not Hezbollah's - that is silly - the responsibility lies with govt. of Lebanon) violations. As the UN report notes, there are almost daily violations of Lebanese airspace by Israeli flights. Kindly have some respect for WP:NPOV and not add such propaganda willy-nilly. Especially pictures, which are worth a thousand words, proverbially. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 14:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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In the section, Alleged Lebanese violations,
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Kfarchouba.
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During the recent events in southern Lebanon, Israel allegedly violated 1701 by bombing areas near the border and should be noted in both Alleged Israeli violations Hezbollah violations area.
President Aoun: Israel’s use of its air force to target Lebanese villages is the first of its kind since 2006 and indicates the presence of escalating aggressive intentions that coincide with the continuous threats against Lebanon and its sovereignty. What happened is a flagrant and dangerous violation of Security Council Resolution 1701 and a direct threat to security and stability in the south.
Saad Hariri: The situation on the border with the Israeli enemy is very, very dangerous and an unprecedented threat to Resolution 1701 Using the south as a platform for regional conflicts with uncalculated results and repercussions is a step into the unknown that puts all of Lebanon in the crosshairs of the wars of others on its land.
Israel uses drones daily in lebanese sovereign territories and I think that should also be noted in the Alleged Israeli violations area. Prodrummer619 ( talk) 20:51, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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In the Hezbollah subsection under Disarmament of armed groups in Lebanon, should the hyperlink to United Nations Secretary-General and Kofi Annan be in the third paragraph where Annan is first mentioned instead of the fifth paragraph. Mrprotest ( talk) 11:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)