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It seems odd that there's no mention of one of the driving forces behind this -- disgust that the UN General Assembly had become a "dictator's club" or self-protective defensive alliance of despotisms and dictatorships during the 1970's and 1980's (with some lingering effects even today). AnonMoos 09:23, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
I removed this statement [2] because no source was provided. Captain Zyrain 02:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
To me this whole article seems to be a little bit too centered on the ideas of this Joseph Schwartzberg which I think is inappropriate. 62.104.150.238 18:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Is GDP an objective enough measure to use in weighted voting? GDP depends at least partly on estimates, doesn't it? Captain Zyrain 18:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
The apportionment chart currently compares Israel, North Korea, the United States, India, and China. Does anyone have any other suggestions for comparions? I compared Israel and North Korea to show how North Korea's population advantage is neutralized by its "Not free" status under the Provisional People's Assembly method and by its relatively weak GDP under the Schwartzberg Weighted Voting method. Captain Zyrain 05:49, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
I know as Wikipedians we shouldn't post articles for our own ideas, but I've recently had one that I think is worth mention:If the UN legislative body was modeled after that of Europe, then there should be an upper legislative organ composed of delegates appointed by the government of each nation. This World Council would distribute members by nation on the next logical step of the Penrose Method:The cubic root of the millions place. This would similar to the European Council as the UNPA would be to the Europarl.-- SuperWikiman 01 03 2006 4:00 (UTC)
I was thinking about adding a qualification that a UNPA need not, strictly speaking, be directly elected. I mean, it would be possible, for example, for peoples to specifically vote for delegates who would in turn chose the official international representatives (whether in the rubber-stamp mode of the current U.S. electoral college, or as a conscience-voting intermediate body. This would still be different from the current U.N. system in that people around the world would have a specific vote pertaining to international issues and the intermediate body would necessarily be an elected one (and not through the executive). Brettz9 02:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
One World Now is a non-profit organization that is promoting the amendment of the United Nations Charter via article 109 and has established forums to discuss methods of empowering the United Nations. While One World Now's web pressence is fairly new, Mr. Musslewhite, the president of One World Now, been campaigning, under the banner of One World Now, for an empowered UN since 1992.
Mr. Musslewhite would like for One World Now to be listed as an organization promoting amendment of the UN Charter if this would be appropriate. OneWorldNow 06:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
This page needs its references to be cleaned up. I've done the first step, which is putting them in the format of <ref>[http://...]</ref>, but now it needs to be put in the format of <ref>[http://... The European Parliament Report #32767], May 1, 2007.</ref>. Perhaps I will do that when I have a multi-monitor system that will allow me to efficiently do this (having all these windows open is cumbersome, and the project would take hours with one monitor). Captain Zyrain 16:25, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I think it does. 217.121.99.245 ( talk) 12:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
What about the UN Secretary-General direct presidential voting (this is, the citizens could vote to the UN Secretary-General candidates in democratic countries. -- Nopetro 12:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Does UNA-USA continue to oppose a UNPA? I was wondering whether they might have changed their policy, in the wake of WFUNA announcing its support of a UNPA. Captain Zyrain 03:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Here are some pertinent editorials:
Is it necessary to include citations in the lead when those issues are addressed and sourced in subsequent sections? Sarsaparilla ( talk) 00:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Sarsaparilla ( talk) 19:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure if there are any policies/guidelines on this, but I dont personally like articles which are structured around pro/com arguments. Could they be split out instead into the lines - e.g. Democracy, Legitimacy, Efficiency etc. AndrewRT( Talk) 19:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that does make more sense and would make for an easier read. Sarsaparilla ( talk) 00:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I am trying to figure out the best way to hierarchically structure this article. I got rid of the "pros and cons" organization but now it's not clear under what headings to put all these different topics. Maybe they can all be top-level headings, as is the case with US Senate. Sarsaparilla ( talk) 11:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm having trouble finding acceptably-licensed pics to use in this article. Can anyone find one of the National People's Congress? Sarsaparilla ( talk) 11:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
In reference to the comment that wikisource is not a reliable source, the last time I nominated an article for FAC, I ran into objections for not using Wikisource because the external source moved its page, causing all the links to the treaty text to become broken. See Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Convention_on_Psychotropic_Substances/Archive1. Sarsaparilla ( talk) 13:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Sarsaparilla! I am excited to see that someone is working on some UN articles. Unfortunately I'm about to head out for the evening and won't be able to review until later this weekend. Thanks for the heads up and I'm looking forward to reading this! -- JayHenry ( talk) 01:22, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Does this proposed body not take into account the area ruled by a country? If it is only taking the population into account, then densely populated and small country X could steal sparsely populated and large country Y's resources.
ie. Mexico could vote to strip Canada of it's resources.
And if economic production is all that is taken into account, then the US could vote to strip Russia of its resources.
need to be taken into account.
132.205.44.5 ( talk) 02:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Any objections to me creating two new sections on "supporters" and "opponents" - a simple list of people/organisations that support or oppose the proposal and their arguments for or against? AndrewRT( Talk) 20:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I am dreaming.THis is the first Fa article i have seen which does not have any criticism.What about removal of national sovereignty? -- ( User:122.163.149.42, 11:42, 18 December 2008 -- sig added by 201.53.7.16 ( talk) 21:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC) )
Not only does there needs to be a Criticism section, but this article needs to be more Critical to balance this article out (which discusses some dangerous ideas, that do need to be aired). For example ... Over-population is destroying our planet … yet One Person = One Vote could be an insane rubber stamp rewarding all nations who over populate (that makes sense). No checks and balances to ensure only well-informed and well-educated populous either. Next … let's rubber stamp all non-democracies (theocracies, oligarchies, you name it) … because that is sane too (can you believe people believe these all deserve fair hearing … or worse yet claim most states are democratic; when that is so wrong). It is scary that people support this monstrous mess … but scarier still that the information in this article is so lacking on important points brought up here (and giving things the just balance it needs … NPOV is key). Nonprof. Frinkus ( talk) 22:16, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
As a Proud, Unapologetic American I need to say that I am non-negotiably opposed to something European like a "parliament" being forced on MY country to be funded, of course, with MY hard earned tax dollars. No doubt they'd start passing measures left and right to curtail the Freedom that my Country has the unique custom of enjoying, taking away my Right to love my Country. Out go American rights, in come European rules. This article needs to represent the view of real Americans like me and my family who are sicker then a dead pig at the thought of this!
So your country has the "unique custom" of enjoying freedom does it? Really? Unique? The only country? This is why people hate America. Go and learn something you ignorant, arrogant, self-righteous fatass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.185.57 ( talk) 09:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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As was pointed out 13 years ago here, there is no criticism section. This is a lunatic idea only entertained by fantasists, and for a number of extremely obvious reasons will never come to pass, this should be detailed in the article. 84.211.58.90 ( talk) 00:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
This 2007 promotion has quite significant issues:
See Wikipedia:Featured article review/United Nations Parliamentary Assembly/archive1 SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 06:11, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi all. I've noticed that a large number of topics on this talk page are actually about editors' personal opinions on the article's subject, rather than the quality of the article. I propose to delete any topics like this, to make it easier to navigate. Thanks 20WattSphere ( talk) 22:44, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
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It seems odd that there's no mention of one of the driving forces behind this -- disgust that the UN General Assembly had become a "dictator's club" or self-protective defensive alliance of despotisms and dictatorships during the 1970's and 1980's (with some lingering effects even today). AnonMoos 09:23, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
I removed this statement [2] because no source was provided. Captain Zyrain 02:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
To me this whole article seems to be a little bit too centered on the ideas of this Joseph Schwartzberg which I think is inappropriate. 62.104.150.238 18:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Is GDP an objective enough measure to use in weighted voting? GDP depends at least partly on estimates, doesn't it? Captain Zyrain 18:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
The apportionment chart currently compares Israel, North Korea, the United States, India, and China. Does anyone have any other suggestions for comparions? I compared Israel and North Korea to show how North Korea's population advantage is neutralized by its "Not free" status under the Provisional People's Assembly method and by its relatively weak GDP under the Schwartzberg Weighted Voting method. Captain Zyrain 05:49, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
I know as Wikipedians we shouldn't post articles for our own ideas, but I've recently had one that I think is worth mention:If the UN legislative body was modeled after that of Europe, then there should be an upper legislative organ composed of delegates appointed by the government of each nation. This World Council would distribute members by nation on the next logical step of the Penrose Method:The cubic root of the millions place. This would similar to the European Council as the UNPA would be to the Europarl.-- SuperWikiman 01 03 2006 4:00 (UTC)
I was thinking about adding a qualification that a UNPA need not, strictly speaking, be directly elected. I mean, it would be possible, for example, for peoples to specifically vote for delegates who would in turn chose the official international representatives (whether in the rubber-stamp mode of the current U.S. electoral college, or as a conscience-voting intermediate body. This would still be different from the current U.N. system in that people around the world would have a specific vote pertaining to international issues and the intermediate body would necessarily be an elected one (and not through the executive). Brettz9 02:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
One World Now is a non-profit organization that is promoting the amendment of the United Nations Charter via article 109 and has established forums to discuss methods of empowering the United Nations. While One World Now's web pressence is fairly new, Mr. Musslewhite, the president of One World Now, been campaigning, under the banner of One World Now, for an empowered UN since 1992.
Mr. Musslewhite would like for One World Now to be listed as an organization promoting amendment of the UN Charter if this would be appropriate. OneWorldNow 06:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
This page needs its references to be cleaned up. I've done the first step, which is putting them in the format of <ref>[http://...]</ref>, but now it needs to be put in the format of <ref>[http://... The European Parliament Report #32767], May 1, 2007.</ref>. Perhaps I will do that when I have a multi-monitor system that will allow me to efficiently do this (having all these windows open is cumbersome, and the project would take hours with one monitor). Captain Zyrain 16:25, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I think it does. 217.121.99.245 ( talk) 12:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
What about the UN Secretary-General direct presidential voting (this is, the citizens could vote to the UN Secretary-General candidates in democratic countries. -- Nopetro 12:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Does UNA-USA continue to oppose a UNPA? I was wondering whether they might have changed their policy, in the wake of WFUNA announcing its support of a UNPA. Captain Zyrain 03:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Here are some pertinent editorials:
Is it necessary to include citations in the lead when those issues are addressed and sourced in subsequent sections? Sarsaparilla ( talk) 00:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Sarsaparilla ( talk) 19:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure if there are any policies/guidelines on this, but I dont personally like articles which are structured around pro/com arguments. Could they be split out instead into the lines - e.g. Democracy, Legitimacy, Efficiency etc. AndrewRT( Talk) 19:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that does make more sense and would make for an easier read. Sarsaparilla ( talk) 00:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I am trying to figure out the best way to hierarchically structure this article. I got rid of the "pros and cons" organization but now it's not clear under what headings to put all these different topics. Maybe they can all be top-level headings, as is the case with US Senate. Sarsaparilla ( talk) 11:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm having trouble finding acceptably-licensed pics to use in this article. Can anyone find one of the National People's Congress? Sarsaparilla ( talk) 11:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
In reference to the comment that wikisource is not a reliable source, the last time I nominated an article for FAC, I ran into objections for not using Wikisource because the external source moved its page, causing all the links to the treaty text to become broken. See Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Convention_on_Psychotropic_Substances/Archive1. Sarsaparilla ( talk) 13:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Sarsaparilla! I am excited to see that someone is working on some UN articles. Unfortunately I'm about to head out for the evening and won't be able to review until later this weekend. Thanks for the heads up and I'm looking forward to reading this! -- JayHenry ( talk) 01:22, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Does this proposed body not take into account the area ruled by a country? If it is only taking the population into account, then densely populated and small country X could steal sparsely populated and large country Y's resources.
ie. Mexico could vote to strip Canada of it's resources.
And if economic production is all that is taken into account, then the US could vote to strip Russia of its resources.
need to be taken into account.
132.205.44.5 ( talk) 02:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Any objections to me creating two new sections on "supporters" and "opponents" - a simple list of people/organisations that support or oppose the proposal and their arguments for or against? AndrewRT( Talk) 20:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I am dreaming.THis is the first Fa article i have seen which does not have any criticism.What about removal of national sovereignty? -- ( User:122.163.149.42, 11:42, 18 December 2008 -- sig added by 201.53.7.16 ( talk) 21:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC) )
Not only does there needs to be a Criticism section, but this article needs to be more Critical to balance this article out (which discusses some dangerous ideas, that do need to be aired). For example ... Over-population is destroying our planet … yet One Person = One Vote could be an insane rubber stamp rewarding all nations who over populate (that makes sense). No checks and balances to ensure only well-informed and well-educated populous either. Next … let's rubber stamp all non-democracies (theocracies, oligarchies, you name it) … because that is sane too (can you believe people believe these all deserve fair hearing … or worse yet claim most states are democratic; when that is so wrong). It is scary that people support this monstrous mess … but scarier still that the information in this article is so lacking on important points brought up here (and giving things the just balance it needs … NPOV is key). Nonprof. Frinkus ( talk) 22:16, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
As a Proud, Unapologetic American I need to say that I am non-negotiably opposed to something European like a "parliament" being forced on MY country to be funded, of course, with MY hard earned tax dollars. No doubt they'd start passing measures left and right to curtail the Freedom that my Country has the unique custom of enjoying, taking away my Right to love my Country. Out go American rights, in come European rules. This article needs to represent the view of real Americans like me and my family who are sicker then a dead pig at the thought of this!
So your country has the "unique custom" of enjoying freedom does it? Really? Unique? The only country? This is why people hate America. Go and learn something you ignorant, arrogant, self-righteous fatass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.185.57 ( talk) 09:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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As was pointed out 13 years ago here, there is no criticism section. This is a lunatic idea only entertained by fantasists, and for a number of extremely obvious reasons will never come to pass, this should be detailed in the article. 84.211.58.90 ( talk) 00:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
This 2007 promotion has quite significant issues:
See Wikipedia:Featured article review/United Nations Parliamentary Assembly/archive1 SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 06:11, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi all. I've noticed that a large number of topics on this talk page are actually about editors' personal opinions on the article's subject, rather than the quality of the article. I propose to delete any topics like this, to make it easier to navigate. Thanks 20WattSphere ( talk) 22:44, 27 July 2023 (UTC)