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If this was a joint Anglo-French declaration, could evidence be supplied, beyond the unverifiable 'Despite the speech's being ...', that confirms the joint nature of the declaration ? It is hard to believe that Chamberlain did not even allude to the joint nature of the declaration in his, admittedly, terse anouncement. ( Pamour ( talk) 20:44, 2 September 2016 (UTC))
Chamberlain was in no position to declare war on behalf of France. The ultimatum was British, not Anglo-French. Chamberlain was not even in a position to declare war on behalf of those Commonwealth countries with dominion status. The source mentioned - History Channel - is not particularly reliable. Norvo ( talk) 18:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
---As Norvo states. The British declaration was on behalf of the United Kingdom ONLY. France delivered their own SEPARATE ultimatum to the German Foreign Ministry, with a deadline of 5pm on 3rd September, 1939. According to British Foreign Office telegrams and memos, French PM Daladier preferred a joint ultimatum. Chamberlain could not comply with this request due to negative reaction in the House of Commons after his speech on the situation on 2nd September. British public opinion and the opinions felt by the Cabinet dictated that Britain honour their guarantees to Poland as soon as possible. The lack of action from the British Government, and the possible revolt of the Cabinet meant that Chamberlain had to deliver the British ultimatum much sooner than originally planned. I also agree that the History Channel can hardly be called a reliable source. (British Foreign Office Telegrams Source: Documents on British Foreign Policy 1919-1939, E.L Woodward HMSO)
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12:58, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Just to make people aware. The full audio of Chamberlains speech is available on my YouTube channel - DarkLight 753. The recording also includes the government public service messages that followed after the PM's announcement. DarkLight753 ( talk) 13:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
At the conclusion of the First World War, the German Empire signed the Armistice of 11 November 1918...
Did the German Empire officially exist at the time of the Armistice? The last Kaiser had abdicated as German Emperor and King of Prussia (one precondition sought by the Allies) on 9 November, a republic being proclaimed on the same day. It would strictly speaking have been a republic. Cloptonson ( talk) 13:13, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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If this was a joint Anglo-French declaration, could evidence be supplied, beyond the unverifiable 'Despite the speech's being ...', that confirms the joint nature of the declaration ? It is hard to believe that Chamberlain did not even allude to the joint nature of the declaration in his, admittedly, terse anouncement. ( Pamour ( talk) 20:44, 2 September 2016 (UTC))
Chamberlain was in no position to declare war on behalf of France. The ultimatum was British, not Anglo-French. Chamberlain was not even in a position to declare war on behalf of those Commonwealth countries with dominion status. The source mentioned - History Channel - is not particularly reliable. Norvo ( talk) 18:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
---As Norvo states. The British declaration was on behalf of the United Kingdom ONLY. France delivered their own SEPARATE ultimatum to the German Foreign Ministry, with a deadline of 5pm on 3rd September, 1939. According to British Foreign Office telegrams and memos, French PM Daladier preferred a joint ultimatum. Chamberlain could not comply with this request due to negative reaction in the House of Commons after his speech on the situation on 2nd September. British public opinion and the opinions felt by the Cabinet dictated that Britain honour their guarantees to Poland as soon as possible. The lack of action from the British Government, and the possible revolt of the Cabinet meant that Chamberlain had to deliver the British ultimatum much sooner than originally planned. I also agree that the History Channel can hardly be called a reliable source. (British Foreign Office Telegrams Source: Documents on British Foreign Policy 1919-1939, E.L Woodward HMSO)
DarkLight753 (
talk)
12:58, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Just to make people aware. The full audio of Chamberlains speech is available on my YouTube channel - DarkLight 753. The recording also includes the government public service messages that followed after the PM's announcement. DarkLight753 ( talk) 13:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
At the conclusion of the First World War, the German Empire signed the Armistice of 11 November 1918...
Did the German Empire officially exist at the time of the Armistice? The last Kaiser had abdicated as German Emperor and King of Prussia (one precondition sought by the Allies) on 9 November, a republic being proclaimed on the same day. It would strictly speaking have been a republic. Cloptonson ( talk) 13:13, 19 August 2021 (UTC)