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The history of sea gliders does not start with Henry Stommel in 1989. There are various patents, describing underwater gliders, like this one: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3157145.pdf dating back many years ago.
There is a major new, potentially useful, article in IEEE Spectrum this month. It includes lots of information on the transition of the underwater glider industry. (IEEE Spectrum is a major engineering publication, written for the intelligent layman.)
I do not have time to update the main article with the new information from this so will leave that to other interested editors. N2e ( talk) 10:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Chaosdruid ( talk) 10:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
The article appears to show preference quite a few times in the section on the SeaExplorer. At the very least lines like "Last but not least" don't really, atleast in my mind, fit the overall tone of wikipedia.
I have added a bunch of material to the article but I'm not happy with how the structure stands. It seems to me that the History section should confine itself to a list of the major developments and their dates. A separate section would have descriptions of the different glider projects. There is a great deal of competition in this field so naturally I can expect there could be some dispute about whose technology represented what should be considered a major development. So I left the structure as is. If anyone agrees and wants to streamline the history and move the material to project descriptions, I think that would be a big improvement. If I see no objections and work on this article some months in the future, I may well make that sort of structural change. J JMesserly ( talk) 21:55, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
There has been a bit of blurring on what a glider is. For example, here is a design which extracts energy with a propeller that drives a generator: US patent 7353768, Jack A. Jones & Yi Chao, "Underwater vehicle propulsion and power generation". The same propeller is used for occasional maneuvering, but the bulk of its propulsion is from gliding. Other designs are adding thrusters to gliders not for propulsion but for attitude control. So should the Underwater glider article describe these sorts of designs, or should these go in the AUV article? My feeling is that if the bulk of the mode of operation of the vehicle is as a glider, then it should be treated in this article. I expect that is not too controversial, but if anyone feels differently please comment. J JMesserly ( talk) 21:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
There ought to be a robotics section that makes some mention of the domain specific challenges that robotic software must grapple with. For example on obstacles, the problem of dealing with fishermen. On navigation planning, the problem of low velocity vehicles dealing with strong currents. For fleet operations and oceanographic studies, some authors are advocating swarming type software to coordinate gliders. Some of this swarming discussion is generic to non glider AUVs, but this article might give attention to the impact of the gliders' long mission duration capability on such software. Wood in particular wrote on this in the overview I cited. J JMesserly ( talk) 22:08, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
It's better to avoid abbreviations, for example an image caption read "at the med sea" but there's no such sea anywhere in the world, right? ^^ So I changed it to Mediterranean Sea. UW was expanded to University of Washington, and the capitalization of section titles should only have a capital in the beginning. Χρυσάνθη Λυκούση ( talk) 17:29, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
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I stumbled upon this and it seems interesting. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2139875-next-gen-drones-will-fly-and-dive-into-the-sea-like-pelicans/
https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/03/duck-drone-could-spy-enemy-subs/108811/
and earlier demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mB99I5U7Ac Technophant ( talk) 00:53, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
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The history of sea gliders does not start with Henry Stommel in 1989. There are various patents, describing underwater gliders, like this one: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3157145.pdf dating back many years ago.
There is a major new, potentially useful, article in IEEE Spectrum this month. It includes lots of information on the transition of the underwater glider industry. (IEEE Spectrum is a major engineering publication, written for the intelligent layman.)
I do not have time to update the main article with the new information from this so will leave that to other interested editors. N2e ( talk) 10:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Chaosdruid ( talk) 10:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
The article appears to show preference quite a few times in the section on the SeaExplorer. At the very least lines like "Last but not least" don't really, atleast in my mind, fit the overall tone of wikipedia.
I have added a bunch of material to the article but I'm not happy with how the structure stands. It seems to me that the History section should confine itself to a list of the major developments and their dates. A separate section would have descriptions of the different glider projects. There is a great deal of competition in this field so naturally I can expect there could be some dispute about whose technology represented what should be considered a major development. So I left the structure as is. If anyone agrees and wants to streamline the history and move the material to project descriptions, I think that would be a big improvement. If I see no objections and work on this article some months in the future, I may well make that sort of structural change. J JMesserly ( talk) 21:55, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
There has been a bit of blurring on what a glider is. For example, here is a design which extracts energy with a propeller that drives a generator: US patent 7353768, Jack A. Jones & Yi Chao, "Underwater vehicle propulsion and power generation". The same propeller is used for occasional maneuvering, but the bulk of its propulsion is from gliding. Other designs are adding thrusters to gliders not for propulsion but for attitude control. So should the Underwater glider article describe these sorts of designs, or should these go in the AUV article? My feeling is that if the bulk of the mode of operation of the vehicle is as a glider, then it should be treated in this article. I expect that is not too controversial, but if anyone feels differently please comment. J JMesserly ( talk) 21:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
There ought to be a robotics section that makes some mention of the domain specific challenges that robotic software must grapple with. For example on obstacles, the problem of dealing with fishermen. On navigation planning, the problem of low velocity vehicles dealing with strong currents. For fleet operations and oceanographic studies, some authors are advocating swarming type software to coordinate gliders. Some of this swarming discussion is generic to non glider AUVs, but this article might give attention to the impact of the gliders' long mission duration capability on such software. Wood in particular wrote on this in the overview I cited. J JMesserly ( talk) 22:08, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
It's better to avoid abbreviations, for example an image caption read "at the med sea" but there's no such sea anywhere in the world, right? ^^ So I changed it to Mediterranean Sea. UW was expanded to University of Washington, and the capitalization of section titles should only have a capital in the beginning. Χρυσάνθη Λυκούση ( talk) 17:29, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
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I stumbled upon this and it seems interesting. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2139875-next-gen-drones-will-fly-and-dive-into-the-sea-like-pelicans/
https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/03/duck-drone-could-spy-enemy-subs/108811/
and earlier demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mB99I5U7Ac Technophant ( talk) 00:53, 12 August 2019 (UTC)