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Jesus, i was really shocked to discover that the one that send Aisha the goat was THE umm habeeba... *chills*...
I guess the Qur'an was right in chapter 66, when it warned the wifes...
-- Striver 04:23, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
What does the bolded mean?
Who is "He"? -- Striver 06:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
To Honor Her & Elevate Her Spirits After The Calamity of Husband's Treachery to Her By Apostating & Leaving Her Stranded without husband in a faraway foreign land & Supportless As She Could Not Go Back to Makkah to Her Father As He was a polytheist & Leader of the enmity to the Muslims
"There are contradictory sources. One claim that when Muhammad came to know about what had happened to her, he got worried that she might turn back from her faith like her husband."
This is a wrong supposition, she was free to go with her husband but she did not go & suffered for a year it shows the firmness of her belief & very doubtfulness of this report, probably fabricated as it does not fit the facts & logically should be discounted. The Prophet was never worried about her 'faith', he being the head of the Muslim community was worried about her 'welfare', being the most merciful person on Earth ever lived, so he offered to marry her to elevate her from that sorrow & calamity which had befallen her. The strength of the belief is from God & not from the Prophet, so if her faith was weak it would not have been strengthened it marrying the Prophet, as he was a human being only. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.149.94.65 ( talk) 18:56, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved ( non-admin closure) NNADIGOODLUCK ( Talk| Contribs) 10:58, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Ramla bint Abi Sufyan → Umm Habiba – I may be wrong, but per WP:COMMONNAME it seems that the page needs to be moved to Umm Habiba as that's the common name of this person which is used among the Muslims. Arabic, Persian and Turkish Wikipedia also use this name as the article's main title. On the other hand, per WP:CONSISTENCY, Umm Habiba would be the more suitable title, as another wife of Muhammad, Hind bint Abi Umayya, also has her article titled with her common name Umm Salama. This Google NGram also shows no hits for Ramla bint Abi Sufyan while Umm Habiba has been used quite a few times in some books. Keivan.f Talk 01:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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Jesus, i was really shocked to discover that the one that send Aisha the goat was THE umm habeeba... *chills*...
I guess the Qur'an was right in chapter 66, when it warned the wifes...
-- Striver 04:23, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
What does the bolded mean?
Who is "He"? -- Striver 06:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
To Honor Her & Elevate Her Spirits After The Calamity of Husband's Treachery to Her By Apostating & Leaving Her Stranded without husband in a faraway foreign land & Supportless As She Could Not Go Back to Makkah to Her Father As He was a polytheist & Leader of the enmity to the Muslims
"There are contradictory sources. One claim that when Muhammad came to know about what had happened to her, he got worried that she might turn back from her faith like her husband."
This is a wrong supposition, she was free to go with her husband but she did not go & suffered for a year it shows the firmness of her belief & very doubtfulness of this report, probably fabricated as it does not fit the facts & logically should be discounted. The Prophet was never worried about her 'faith', he being the head of the Muslim community was worried about her 'welfare', being the most merciful person on Earth ever lived, so he offered to marry her to elevate her from that sorrow & calamity which had befallen her. The strength of the belief is from God & not from the Prophet, so if her faith was weak it would not have been strengthened it marrying the Prophet, as he was a human being only. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.149.94.65 ( talk) 18:56, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved ( non-admin closure) NNADIGOODLUCK ( Talk| Contribs) 10:58, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Ramla bint Abi Sufyan → Umm Habiba – I may be wrong, but per WP:COMMONNAME it seems that the page needs to be moved to Umm Habiba as that's the common name of this person which is used among the Muslims. Arabic, Persian and Turkish Wikipedia also use this name as the article's main title. On the other hand, per WP:CONSISTENCY, Umm Habiba would be the more suitable title, as another wife of Muhammad, Hind bint Abi Umayya, also has her article titled with her common name Umm Salama. This Google NGram also shows no hits for Ramla bint Abi Sufyan while Umm Habiba has been used quite a few times in some books. Keivan.f Talk 01:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)