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I have chosen to put this article under the scientific name because no "common name" is really universal. I would not greatly object to it being placed in either California bay laurel or Oregon myrtle, but I am quite certain SOMEONE would object to either placement. WormRunner 05:07, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Should this page really have a WP:California tag, as the tree is not endemic to California, nor the CFP that I know of?
KP Botany 18:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure why Insidious-Chaos deleted the paragraph about uses but I have revived the deleted paragraph and added reference links. There seems to be some confusion among the various references about whether the leaves make a nice flavoring or are poisonous, so it seems best to leave information about both possibilities. Personally I've used the leaves for cooking without any ill effects. Apparently some people even convert the nuts into something like chocolate! Amazing what you can learn with a Google search. Msebast 01:39, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I added a lot of information about the traditional Native American uses of Umbellularia leaves and fruits, from referenced scholarly publications. This species was apparently one of the most important trees in the ethnobotany of local tribes in its native range, and it seems a shame that the history of human interaction with this plant is not more widely known. The downloadable USDA Plant Guide for this species is very helpful!
Nimmolo ( talk) 22:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
This article appears to contradict itself. In the nomenclature section, it appears to say that this species is only found in northern California and Oregon. Then in a later section, when discussing range, it says it ranges as far as San Diego County (in far southern California). If it is referring to different species or subspecies, it is not clear. If it is referring to the same species, then it is contradictory. I don't know which is the right answer but hopefully someone can address this. Feel free to respond to or delete this Discussion tag as appropriate. 69.180.134.187 ( talk) 05:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Unless someone acts, first, I want to add a section relating to its insect repellent properties, which are supported by native tradition, woodrat usage and laboratory testing. Kortoso ( talk) 16:45, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Some sources seem to claim that parts of the plant are poisonous (John Wiseman: SAS Survival Guide. Collins Gem, ISBN 978-0-00-470167-7). Shouldn't the article at least mention that?
I know that Wikipedia is not meant to be used as a manual or as a cook book, but many people don't, and some may actually use the Wikipedia information for cooking experiments of their own, especially if there is not the slightest hint of the plant possibly being poisonous. -- 217.239.15.96 ( talk) 08:06, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
The article states that the coastal American Indians used the leaves to treat headache and then goes on to say that the leaves are headache inducing. Inducing means "causing". So which is it? Did they want to cause a headache or cure a headache? Get it straight.
Many chemicals can do either. Please sign your comments. Crescent77 ( talk) 21:16, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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I have chosen to put this article under the scientific name because no "common name" is really universal. I would not greatly object to it being placed in either California bay laurel or Oregon myrtle, but I am quite certain SOMEONE would object to either placement. WormRunner 05:07, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Should this page really have a WP:California tag, as the tree is not endemic to California, nor the CFP that I know of?
KP Botany 18:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure why Insidious-Chaos deleted the paragraph about uses but I have revived the deleted paragraph and added reference links. There seems to be some confusion among the various references about whether the leaves make a nice flavoring or are poisonous, so it seems best to leave information about both possibilities. Personally I've used the leaves for cooking without any ill effects. Apparently some people even convert the nuts into something like chocolate! Amazing what you can learn with a Google search. Msebast 01:39, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I added a lot of information about the traditional Native American uses of Umbellularia leaves and fruits, from referenced scholarly publications. This species was apparently one of the most important trees in the ethnobotany of local tribes in its native range, and it seems a shame that the history of human interaction with this plant is not more widely known. The downloadable USDA Plant Guide for this species is very helpful!
Nimmolo ( talk) 22:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
This article appears to contradict itself. In the nomenclature section, it appears to say that this species is only found in northern California and Oregon. Then in a later section, when discussing range, it says it ranges as far as San Diego County (in far southern California). If it is referring to different species or subspecies, it is not clear. If it is referring to the same species, then it is contradictory. I don't know which is the right answer but hopefully someone can address this. Feel free to respond to or delete this Discussion tag as appropriate. 69.180.134.187 ( talk) 05:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Unless someone acts, first, I want to add a section relating to its insect repellent properties, which are supported by native tradition, woodrat usage and laboratory testing. Kortoso ( talk) 16:45, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Some sources seem to claim that parts of the plant are poisonous (John Wiseman: SAS Survival Guide. Collins Gem, ISBN 978-0-00-470167-7). Shouldn't the article at least mention that?
I know that Wikipedia is not meant to be used as a manual or as a cook book, but many people don't, and some may actually use the Wikipedia information for cooking experiments of their own, especially if there is not the slightest hint of the plant possibly being poisonous. -- 217.239.15.96 ( talk) 08:06, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
The article states that the coastal American Indians used the leaves to treat headache and then goes on to say that the leaves are headache inducing. Inducing means "causing". So which is it? Did they want to cause a headache or cure a headache? Get it straight.
Many chemicals can do either. Please sign your comments. Crescent77 ( talk) 21:16, 21 September 2020 (UTC)