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Just made a "pro Ukrainian EU-membership" "userbox" feel free to copy it! Mariah-Yulia 15:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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Don't forget to mention that some Ukrainians oppose the idea of Ukraine in EU, and they demand referendum. 鈥擯receding
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See here. Bit too WP:NEWS for now. Article does not say what legal consequences this has.... Looks completely weird to me.... 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 16:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Probably a bit to much WP:NOT#NEWSREPORTS; (but) the European Commission & the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry seem to have 2 different views on the speed of implement EU recommendation (in Ukraine):
is if it does exist not a good plan, experts say Viktor Medvedchuk has no change to win the 2015 Ukrainian presidential election and has no pull in current Ukrainian politics. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 21:10, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Too proof that I have great political insight
: according to
this latest poll by
Razumkov Centre a party lead by Medvedchuk would score 0.9% of the votes during elections.... 鈥
Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙
Talk to me!
22:31, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
The latest days several editors inserted into Ukraine鈥揈uropean_Union_relations#Russian_reaction statements by Sergey Glazyev (an adviser to President of Russia Vladimir Putin); I moved all them to a footnote that is embedding references; this article is not called "Glazyev-Ukraine relations" + Glazyev has no formal position in the Russian Government; so we can not be sure what his words are worth (could be that Putin never listens to him...).
(Now) the section also has (also) info of "a leaked document outlining a Russian Government strategy to insert Ukraine into the Customs Union of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Russia and prevent its further association with Euro-Atlantic structures". Since we don't know this document is not a fake I propose to move this "leaked document" info to a (new) footnote (that is embedding references (also)).
I guess if we follow WP:SPECULATION to the letter all above mentioned info should be deleted; but I think they are both still interesting to keep (in this article); but then less prominent and thus as footnotes. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 17:34, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
This lasted till 20 August 2013 and was followed (on 21 August 2012) by a statement from the Russian President's top economic advisor Sergey Glazyev arguing that the impact of the Russian response to Ukraine singing the AA, including tariffs and trade checks, could lead to default. He also warned that the agreement would lead to a decline in the standard of living, "political and social unrest" and would violate the Russian-Ukrainian strategic partnership and friendship treaty. As a result, Russia would no longer be obliged to guarantee Ukraine's status as a state and could intervene if pro-Russian regions of the country appealed directly to Russia.
I wouldn't prefer it less wordly (with the full quotes then in the/a footnote); so my proposal is:
This lasted till 20 August 2013 and was followed (on 21 August 2012) by a statement from the Russian President's top economic advisor Sergey Glazyev arguing that the impact of the Russian response to Ukraine singing the AA, including tariffs and trade checks, could lead (in Ukraine) to default, a decline in the standard of living, "political and social unrest" and would violate the Russian-Ukrainian strategic partnership and friendship treaty. The later could lead to Russia no longer being obliged to guarantee Ukraine's status as a state and could intervene if pro-Russian regions of the country appealed directly to Russia.
Agree? 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 17:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Good聽:); nice work. I changed 1 word to "statements" since your/"our" edit of yesterday combined to diffrent statements Glazyev made (on 21-8-13 and 21-9-2013). 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 14:17, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Excellent! The fact that they were both on the 21st looked strange to me too聽;). Keep on eye on the news in on 21-10-2013聽;). 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 19:37, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
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... with regard to the European Union Association Agreement-signing. See here and here. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 18:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
More "references for possible later use" on Ukrainian parliament bills to solve " the Yulia Tymoshenko European Union Association Agreement problem" are here, here, here (in this article political expert Kostiantyn Matviienko observes 鈥淭he way the Europeans are pushing Ukraine to sign the Association Agreement makes me think the EU have made their choice and want to sign the agreement鈥), here and here. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 13:31, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Please do not put simplistic non-true sentences like "Relations with the EU currently stand suspended" into the article. According to high level EU-diplomats there is still has a chance to sign the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement + today Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych said ""An alternative for reforms in Ukraine and an alternative for European integration do not exist". So there is clearly a wish on both sides to continue Ukraine鈥揈uropean Union relations. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 20:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Any else think that there should be an article titled "Accession of Ukraine to the European Union", they're obviously intrested ( at least many of their people are) and so is the EU (well, maybe not with Viktor Yanukovych in charge). Charles Essie ( talk) 17:19, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
The current lead is inadequate and needs rewriting urgently. It is fine for people from the EU and Ukraine that understand what's going on but not for people that are not from the EU, particularly its partners from Canada and the United States. Western readers from the Americas need to understand what's going on. Can someone familiar with the subject rewrite it in a concise manner? 鈥 Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 18:03, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
I think it should be noted that the February 2015 poll included the occupied territories of Ukraine, in contrast to the other polls. A reader may wonder why such a sudden drop in support is shown. The occupied territories have completely different information environments, and this causes the overall percentages to be warped.
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Given the application already submitted by Ukraine, would be apt now to rename the page-- WeifengYang ( talk) 05:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
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Ukraine鈥揈uropean Union relations 鈫
Accession of Ukraine to the European Union 鈥 As things were changed and European Parliament submitted Ukraine's application.
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Just made a "pro Ukrainian EU-membership" "userbox" feel free to copy it! Mariah-Yulia 15:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
![]() | This user supports Ukrainian membership of the European Union. |
Don't forget to mention that some Ukrainians oppose the idea of Ukraine in EU, and they demand referendum. 鈥擯receding
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See here. Bit too WP:NEWS for now. Article does not say what legal consequences this has.... Looks completely weird to me.... 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 16:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Probably a bit to much WP:NOT#NEWSREPORTS; (but) the European Commission & the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry seem to have 2 different views on the speed of implement EU recommendation (in Ukraine):
is if it does exist not a good plan, experts say Viktor Medvedchuk has no change to win the 2015 Ukrainian presidential election and has no pull in current Ukrainian politics. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 21:10, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Too proof that I have great political insight
: according to
this latest poll by
Razumkov Centre a party lead by Medvedchuk would score 0.9% of the votes during elections.... 鈥
Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙
Talk to me!
22:31, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
The latest days several editors inserted into Ukraine鈥揈uropean_Union_relations#Russian_reaction statements by Sergey Glazyev (an adviser to President of Russia Vladimir Putin); I moved all them to a footnote that is embedding references; this article is not called "Glazyev-Ukraine relations" + Glazyev has no formal position in the Russian Government; so we can not be sure what his words are worth (could be that Putin never listens to him...).
(Now) the section also has (also) info of "a leaked document outlining a Russian Government strategy to insert Ukraine into the Customs Union of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Russia and prevent its further association with Euro-Atlantic structures". Since we don't know this document is not a fake I propose to move this "leaked document" info to a (new) footnote (that is embedding references (also)).
I guess if we follow WP:SPECULATION to the letter all above mentioned info should be deleted; but I think they are both still interesting to keep (in this article); but then less prominent and thus as footnotes. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 17:34, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
This lasted till 20 August 2013 and was followed (on 21 August 2012) by a statement from the Russian President's top economic advisor Sergey Glazyev arguing that the impact of the Russian response to Ukraine singing the AA, including tariffs and trade checks, could lead to default. He also warned that the agreement would lead to a decline in the standard of living, "political and social unrest" and would violate the Russian-Ukrainian strategic partnership and friendship treaty. As a result, Russia would no longer be obliged to guarantee Ukraine's status as a state and could intervene if pro-Russian regions of the country appealed directly to Russia.
I wouldn't prefer it less wordly (with the full quotes then in the/a footnote); so my proposal is:
This lasted till 20 August 2013 and was followed (on 21 August 2012) by a statement from the Russian President's top economic advisor Sergey Glazyev arguing that the impact of the Russian response to Ukraine singing the AA, including tariffs and trade checks, could lead (in Ukraine) to default, a decline in the standard of living, "political and social unrest" and would violate the Russian-Ukrainian strategic partnership and friendship treaty. The later could lead to Russia no longer being obliged to guarantee Ukraine's status as a state and could intervene if pro-Russian regions of the country appealed directly to Russia.
Agree? 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 17:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Good聽:); nice work. I changed 1 word to "statements" since your/"our" edit of yesterday combined to diffrent statements Glazyev made (on 21-8-13 and 21-9-2013). 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 14:17, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Excellent! The fact that they were both on the 21st looked strange to me too聽;). Keep on eye on the news in on 21-10-2013聽;). 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 19:37, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Georgia (country)鈥揈uropean Union relations which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. 鈥 RMCD bot 06:02, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Georgia鈥揈uropean Union relations which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. 鈥 RMCD bot 09:47, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
... with regard to the European Union Association Agreement-signing. See here and here. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 18:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
More "references for possible later use" on Ukrainian parliament bills to solve " the Yulia Tymoshenko European Union Association Agreement problem" are here, here, here (in this article political expert Kostiantyn Matviienko observes 鈥淭he way the Europeans are pushing Ukraine to sign the Association Agreement makes me think the EU have made their choice and want to sign the agreement鈥), here and here. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 13:31, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Please do not put simplistic non-true sentences like "Relations with the EU currently stand suspended" into the article. According to high level EU-diplomats there is still has a chance to sign the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement + today Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych said ""An alternative for reforms in Ukraine and an alternative for European integration do not exist". So there is clearly a wish on both sides to continue Ukraine鈥揈uropean Union relations. 鈥 Yulia Romero聽鈥⒙ Talk to me! 20:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Any else think that there should be an article titled "Accession of Ukraine to the European Union", they're obviously intrested ( at least many of their people are) and so is the EU (well, maybe not with Viktor Yanukovych in charge). Charles Essie ( talk) 17:19, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
The current lead is inadequate and needs rewriting urgently. It is fine for people from the EU and Ukraine that understand what's going on but not for people that are not from the EU, particularly its partners from Canada and the United States. Western readers from the Americas need to understand what's going on. Can someone familiar with the subject rewrite it in a concise manner? 鈥 Ahnoneemoos ( talk) 18:03, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
I think it should be noted that the February 2015 poll included the occupied territories of Ukraine, in contrast to the other polls. A reader may wonder why such a sudden drop in support is shown. The occupied territories have completely different information environments, and this causes the overall percentages to be warped.
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Given the application already submitted by Ukraine, would be apt now to rename the page-- WeifengYang ( talk) 05:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. There may be consensus to split the page, but that can be discussed/done separately. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 19:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Ukraine鈥揈uropean Union relations 鈫
Accession of Ukraine to the European Union 鈥 As things were changed and European Parliament submitted Ukraine's application.
MiskoGe (
talk) 20:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC) 鈥斅Relisting.聽
Favonian (
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20:30, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
As things were changed and European Parliament submitted Ukraine's application. However, the move request was rejected, while 4 out of 6 voters either supported or agreed with splitting the "Proposed European Union membership" section to the separate page as "having substantially more information on Ukraine's prospect of joining the EU that would provide sufficient material and developments to merit the name change or its own separate page". -- MiskoGe ( talk) 15:23, 16 March 2022 (UTC)