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I hope it's not bad manners to put this at the top, but I wanted to make sure it was visible to experienced editors. When you click on the excellent UK location map thumbnail, the larger image doesn't have the dot to locate the horse. I don't know how to put this right, so I leave it to those more skilled with maps.
Afterbrunel 17:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
"The figure is believed to date back some 3,000 years to the Bronze Age, and was probably carved by the Dobunni, a local Celtic tribe. " Some problems with that - the date of 1400 BCE was arrived at by Optically stimulated luminescence dating, not by belief. The Dobunni, like other Celtic tribes, date to the late Iron Age not the Bronze age. I propose to reword, keeping the reference to the Dobunni (as references to other outmoded theories are retained, as interesting historical record), and then stating that recently, scientific dating has shown a date of 1400 BCE. Any issues with that?
References to Berkshire are far overstated.
The fact that it was previously in Berkshire is not particularly relevant, because the period of history relating to the historical counties is neither relevant to the creation of the White Horse, nor to a significant event in its history, nor to the present-day reader. By the same token, one could write (and in my opinion equally irrelevantly) that it was in "Wessex" during some point in its history.
Also the "Berkshire White Horse" as a name for the figure is implausible. Google shows at the most two or three independent hits for "Berkshire White Horse" (not including multiple copies of the same document, plus one or two pages containing word lists for search engine spamming which happened to contain that combination of words), consistent with that being a description which one or two people happened to use rather than its actual accepted name. By contrast, for "Uffington White Horse" Google finds well over a thousand matches.
I will leave "Berkshire Downs" but remove other Berkshire references.
Not very well, I wouldn't think. I don't think the theory is that widely believed for Uffington, and I shudder to think what was being advertised at Cerne Abbas! Grutness... wha? 06:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
On a separate matter, I am also going to change BCE / CE, to BC / AD, because that is the usage which is more widely understood, and is also in general use in Wikipedia. I would suggest not departing from this usage on this individual page, inconsistent with the Wiki as a whole. Rather, look at / participate in the discussion on Talk:Centuries. If there is genuinely a consensus for use of BCE/CE (which I rather doubt) then let it be discussed there and then implemented consistently throughout Wikipedia.
(Addendum: Wikipedia:History / Wikipedia talk:History standards may be a better starting point than Talk:Centuries.)
-- Trainspotter 13:27, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I've added an aerial shot which I feel shows the white horse better than the "from the ground" shot. Are there now too many images? -- Dan Huby 12:23, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
I am adding a photo which I took in winter while standing next to it which I thought was interesting WRT different season. Cas Liber 06:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned that the horse was vandalised by hunting activists? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.15.63.111 ( talk) 03:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC).
Can be seen in google earth at 31°39'45.05"N 106°35'15.90"W, 430 metres from nose to tail, but I don't know anything about it - who did it, when or why. Anyone got any idea? 81.157.195.129 ( talk) 18:03, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
This is a trivia list by proxy. It also contains some items that are commercial products, of dubious relevance to the actual horse. This looks like viral marketing and promotion rather than a genunie attempt to impart information.
Either way, it's a trivia list and should be rewritten and restructured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.143.5 ( talk) 19:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
My comment on User 79.72.142.21's Talk page:
User:79.72.142.21's response, on my Talk page:
My response to further comments on my Talk page, which is not the place to discuss this:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Hill does not redirect here if you change to english, but it should. I don't know enough about wikipedia to fix this, if someone would do that it would be awesome, thanks. Atanar ( talk) 11:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
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I hope it's not bad manners to put this at the top, but I wanted to make sure it was visible to experienced editors. When you click on the excellent UK location map thumbnail, the larger image doesn't have the dot to locate the horse. I don't know how to put this right, so I leave it to those more skilled with maps.
Afterbrunel 17:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
"The figure is believed to date back some 3,000 years to the Bronze Age, and was probably carved by the Dobunni, a local Celtic tribe. " Some problems with that - the date of 1400 BCE was arrived at by Optically stimulated luminescence dating, not by belief. The Dobunni, like other Celtic tribes, date to the late Iron Age not the Bronze age. I propose to reword, keeping the reference to the Dobunni (as references to other outmoded theories are retained, as interesting historical record), and then stating that recently, scientific dating has shown a date of 1400 BCE. Any issues with that?
References to Berkshire are far overstated.
The fact that it was previously in Berkshire is not particularly relevant, because the period of history relating to the historical counties is neither relevant to the creation of the White Horse, nor to a significant event in its history, nor to the present-day reader. By the same token, one could write (and in my opinion equally irrelevantly) that it was in "Wessex" during some point in its history.
Also the "Berkshire White Horse" as a name for the figure is implausible. Google shows at the most two or three independent hits for "Berkshire White Horse" (not including multiple copies of the same document, plus one or two pages containing word lists for search engine spamming which happened to contain that combination of words), consistent with that being a description which one or two people happened to use rather than its actual accepted name. By contrast, for "Uffington White Horse" Google finds well over a thousand matches.
I will leave "Berkshire Downs" but remove other Berkshire references.
Not very well, I wouldn't think. I don't think the theory is that widely believed for Uffington, and I shudder to think what was being advertised at Cerne Abbas! Grutness... wha? 06:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
On a separate matter, I am also going to change BCE / CE, to BC / AD, because that is the usage which is more widely understood, and is also in general use in Wikipedia. I would suggest not departing from this usage on this individual page, inconsistent with the Wiki as a whole. Rather, look at / participate in the discussion on Talk:Centuries. If there is genuinely a consensus for use of BCE/CE (which I rather doubt) then let it be discussed there and then implemented consistently throughout Wikipedia.
(Addendum: Wikipedia:History / Wikipedia talk:History standards may be a better starting point than Talk:Centuries.)
-- Trainspotter 13:27, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I've added an aerial shot which I feel shows the white horse better than the "from the ground" shot. Are there now too many images? -- Dan Huby 12:23, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
I am adding a photo which I took in winter while standing next to it which I thought was interesting WRT different season. Cas Liber 06:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned that the horse was vandalised by hunting activists? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.15.63.111 ( talk) 03:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC).
Can be seen in google earth at 31°39'45.05"N 106°35'15.90"W, 430 metres from nose to tail, but I don't know anything about it - who did it, when or why. Anyone got any idea? 81.157.195.129 ( talk) 18:03, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
This is a trivia list by proxy. It also contains some items that are commercial products, of dubious relevance to the actual horse. This looks like viral marketing and promotion rather than a genunie attempt to impart information.
Either way, it's a trivia list and should be rewritten and restructured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.143.5 ( talk) 19:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
My comment on User 79.72.142.21's Talk page:
User:79.72.142.21's response, on my Talk page:
My response to further comments on my Talk page, which is not the place to discuss this:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Hill does not redirect here if you change to english, but it should. I don't know enough about wikipedia to fix this, if someone would do that it would be awesome, thanks. Atanar ( talk) 11:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)