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I heard that Uber was big, so I looked it up to see what it is. I had to read a fair bit to read between the lines that probably it is a taxi service that does not have a regular team of drivers, but anyone can offer their services. So a bit like 3D Hubs, but for taxis? Ah, I now refer to '3D Hubs' as if everyone already knows what that is. Maybe that is the problem here, that so far the editors have assumed that readers already know what Uber is. Well I didn't, and came here precisely to fing that out. So could someone please write a 'Uber for dummies' intro? :) DirkvdM ( talk) 15:41, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
I have added the 180 Days Of Change to the Uber (company) page in order to show how Uber is making changes to make the experience better for driver-partners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdeno ( talk • contribs) 23:22, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I just got an email from Norton (whose antivirus I used to use) telling me that Uber has announced a security breach. I expect it is true, and might be worth mentioning in this article. Andrewa ( talk) 22:09, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
My Account has been hacked and I want to close my account. I could not sign in dto do that. could I please have a contact phone number so I can close my account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.253.16.204 ( talk) 21:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I do not have permission to include this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/19/uber-self-driving-car-kills-woman-arizona-tempe Could anyone include it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.143.164.15 ( talk) 17:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I see this article is very biased against the company Abote2 ( talk) 11:26, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
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I want the following added under Additionally in Operations section:
UberMOTO, available in Pakistan, provides transportation by motorcycle. [1] 39.57.201.88 ( talk) 08:13, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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Add UberPEDAL to the list of services, whereby users can request a car with a bike rack to transport their bike. 2605:6000:1522:400B:F924:E124:2C19:5704 ( talk) 15:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
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Do we need this section here? It is redundant with the article Uber protests and legal actions. Are we going to list the regulatory actions of every city as it relates to TNCs? Some of the protests and legal actions are also not specific to Uber; they apply to all TNCs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.251.68.93 ( talk) 22:04, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The caption of the first image on the right in this section "Uber drivers on strike at Montparnasse, Paris, February 3, 2016" doesn't correspond to any incident mentioned in the article, or on the separate Uber protests article. It also seems unlikely, so where has this come from? RobsterUK ( talk) 03:44, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Can we get a section? Is this helpful? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 11:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved per request. The consensus is Uber is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. —usernamekiran (talk) 00:57, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
– Unlike Apple, Amazon, and Tinder, there is no topic of longstanding historical importance to compete for the primary topic claim against the company, which receives about ten times as many page views as all other reasonably matching topics combined - even those with the umlaut. bd2412 T 21:23, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Could someone please update the section? Thanks! Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 05:09, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The "Legal status by country" section takes up almost half the article. It currently links to the "Uber protests and legal actions" article, but it's not really about the same topic. I suggest moving the "Legal status by country" section to its own (new) article, and leaving only a summary here about the legal status around the world, with an anchor to the main article. Would anyone oppose such a move? Saturnalia0 ( talk) 04:26, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm an Uber driver in the Washington DC Metro area. For the last three weeks or so, Uber has added an additional service level that is cheaper than "Uber POOL" named "Uber Express POOL". This service has the same restrictions as "Uber POOL" with the additional conditions that the rider MAY (depending on the rider's location and destination) have to walk to a designated pick-up location and/or be dropped off prior to the desired destination and have to walk the rest of the way. The rider app will direct the rider to the pick up location and (presumably) notifies the rider if they will have to walk after being dropped off. So far I have not noticed a pick-up or drop off point that was more than a couple of blocks from the intended pick-up or destination point.
So the requested change to the entry would be: 1. Under Operations|Levels of Service|Uber POOL, remove "is the lowest cost level of service, " 2. Add a new line under Operations|Levels of Service|Uber POOL beginning with Uber Express POOL and containing pertinent information from above.
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The following sentence is gramatically incorrect: "On 18 November 2016, the eastern high court of Denmark ruled that Uber is an illegal."
It should be corrected to one of the following (or similar): "...ruled that Uber is an illegal taxi service." "...ruled that Uber is illegal." Mortenbogh ( talk) 05:36, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hello all. I feel like the Uber#Uber_protests_and_legal_actions section of the article is pretty redundant, as article Uber protests and legal actions have already listed a majority of information. I suggest leaving a small intro, and moving all country/region sections to the other article. But before I perform any edits, I want some community's input. How do you all think? Cheers. – Wefk423 ( talk) 18:43, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
1/2 of this lead, as opposed to summarize the article, seems to focus on the negative. Per WP:LEAD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.0.4.61 ( talk) 07:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
I driving Uber 2 years and 2 months. They not allowed me to. Buy car to put my own profile I don't know why this takeing long Qalimownuur ( talk) 20:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Criticism is long enough it can be moved to a separate article. More on the business and economics of Uber. What is the arranged percentage that Uber takes away from rides and is it economical? - Inowen ( nlfte) 22:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
At the core of the definition of peer-to-peer systems is that there is no central stakeholder with power over the platform, but instead peers directly coordinate and share resources. For instance, on the wiki page "Peer-to-peer" [1] it says: "Peers are equally privileged, equipotent participants in the application."
This is in complete contrast to how Uber operates: there is one stakeholder - namely Uber - who has almost full command over the platform. It is thus - by orders of magnitude - more privileged and potent than any single rider or driver (or even groups up to a certain size): Uber sets the prices, Uber, if they want, can without problem throw any single rider or driver out of the system, etc. Uber is a classical example of the "gig economy" [2].
Therefore I propose to remove the term "peer-to-peer" from the introduction. Instead it should simply be described as a ridesharing company [3] which provides ride hailing services etc. (as already mentioned in the current intro) - don't you agree? Chilliff ( talk) 11:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
It seems excessive to have so much criticism reported in this general article. In the TOC the criticism section occupies over half the space by itself! I propose to split this section into a new page and leave a summary here. -- Ita140188 ( talk) 11:46, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
I propose to add this sentence to the lead to summarize the criticism section. It is a huge section in this article and needs at least a reference in the lead:
As for other transportation network companies, Uber has been criticized for disrupting the taxicab business, increasing traffic congestion, and for unfair treatment of drivers. The company has also been criticized for its aggressive strategy in dealing with regulators and for other unlawful practices.
Of course this is a proposal, please let me know what you think. -- Ita140188 ( talk) 13:47, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
As for other transportation network companies, Uber has been criticized for unfair treatment of drivers, for disrupting the taxicab business, and for increasing traffic congestion. The company has also been criticized for its aggressive strategy in dealing with regulators and for other unlawful practices.
I was bowled over by the advertising section that is Uber#Business Model#Service options#Offered. (There are even more sub-sections with no content in this section, ie: Stakeholders). I propose a copy-edit to reduce WP:PROMO and superfluous sub-sections. AHampton ( talk) 16:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
I would certainly agree with you here. There is such a long list list of similiar services in different regions. This section needs to be cut down heavily. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 21:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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CTO Thuan Pham reportedly had knowledge of Susan Fowler's sexual harassment allegation at Uber and her manager's threatened retaliation, and did nothing (These allegation were later shown to be false by an investigative reporting by TheInformation, [4] and by a Buzzfeed publication of an email from Pham to this engineering team to clarify the matter. [5]);
to:
CTO Thuan Pham was alleged to have had knowledge of and to ignore Susan Fowler's sexual harassment allegations; however, investigations by TheInformation and Buzzfeed showed this to not be the case, allowing Pham to keep his job. [6] [7]
which does not appear to be supported by the sources (though one is paywalled). Fowler has commented on Twitter ( thread), saying:
There was no "investigation" by Buzzfeed. This Buzzfeed article links to the article in The Information which, according to the article's editor, was in error and was eventually corrected
Can someone more familiar with the background review the sources and clean this up, please?
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@ User:Yamla Maybe it sounds more smart... If so, then "previously to" would be even better. Besides, was my so stupid that your revert did not need any explanation? And on top of that, you are an administrator here. 85.193.247.94 ( talk) 15:13, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
The 2019 financial numbers in the sidebar are incorrect and misleading. I edited the article directly but the change was rejected. https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2020/Uber-Announces-Results-for-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2019/default.aspx is quite clear, if you search the page for "8,506" and "8,596" they are both negative and lower than the year ending 2018 numbers. This makes sense, it is hard to make 16 billion from interest to get from negative EBIT to positive net income.
Could someone please fix that?
110.174.30.127 ( talk) 22:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
I added a new sub-section titled ===Pricing options=== under ==Product overview== to identify differences in Uber's pricing models with price fixing implications between individual drivers, as well as between Uber and individual drivers. These edits were reverted @ Wikiwriter700: due violation of WP:UNDUE Does anyone have specific recommendations to improve this content? Proposals to balance it?
Product overview
Uber does not provide transportation services, instead, Uber determines and dictates the terms on which independent drivers are allocated to customers and the prices that will be charged to them, including the share earned by the driver. [1] To facilitate the scheme, Uber utilizes dynamic pricing model; prices vary according to supply and demand at the time of service.
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Pricing options
Uber’s pricing technology
According to Uber, “in the United States, upfront prices are based on the estimated length and duration of the trip. Estimates can vary based on demand patterns and real-world factors like traffic.” Uber holds absolute control over the pricing of all trips, as well as the distribution mechanism of the supply side. [2]
Multiples of Uber’s base rates
In January of 2020, Uber has released new test feature in select California service areas to enable drivers at the Santa Barbara, Sacramento and Palm Springs airports to set a fair based on a multiple of Uber’s base, time and distance rates for UberX and UberXL trips. [3]
Price fixing implications
As part of the measure to enable drivers set multiples of the Uber’s base rates, Uber states in its directives to drivers that "it is illegal under state and federal law for anyone, including rideshare drivers, to engage in price fixing. This includes agreeing or coordinating with other drivers (in airport staging lots or elsewhere) on pricing and surge pricing. The law requires that drivers must make decisions about pricing and surge pricing on their own." [4]
The purpose of price fixing is to coordinate pricing for mutual benefit. To establish a criminal violation as a result of price fixing subject to Section 1 of the Sherman Act (15 U.S.C. § 1), the government or a private party must prove three essential elements: (1) The conspiracy was knowingly formed (2) The defendant knowingly joined the conspiracy (3) The conspiracy either substantially affected interstate or foreign commerce or occurred within the flow of interstate or foreign commerce. Price fixing is an antitrust offense that is considered “per se” unreasonable restraints of trade. The courts have reasoned that price fixing has no legitimate justification and lack any redeeming competitive purpose and should, therefore, be considered unlawful without any further analysis of their reasonableness, economic justification, or other factors. [5]
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Do we have a source for this claim ? It's seems to me like it's not acceptable unless it is verified and backed by a secondary source. Best, J. -- 2A02:AA13:6142:EE80:3558:D66A:C393:BF1 ( talk) 16:56, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
There are many flaws in the article, and it does not deserve B-class. First off, its 'History' section just lists events and dates, with no transition. Then there is an undue weight problem, with most of the article dedicated to Uber's controversies, and not much on its successes. Is there a reason behind B-class? Sungodtemple ( talk) 14:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
The statement that Uber collects 25% for its fee is plan wrong. Two years ago it switched to a price it pays drivers per mile and per minute which can change due to time of day and demand or a combination of the above. So drivers receiving 75% of the fare isn’t true especially since every local town gets some of the fare based on a number of factors. Uber’s portion of the fare these days tends to be higher than 25% and as high as 50% on some rides. There is no way to accurately estimate how much Uber collects on each ride. 2601:249:B01:82F0:68D8:45B2:8081:E0A2 ( talk) 23:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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I live in the DR Congo. There's no Uber here. I chose to read about it on Wikipedia but am none the wiser. The article seems to be written for people who already know what it is. 1. It's a taxi? Yes or No? 2. I hear it's more expensive than a taxi. So what's the point? 3. Are the drivers just driving their own cars, or do they have a taxi licence? 4. Aren't these drivers just moonlighting? 5. Are they insured? 6. How is it different to a taxi apart from adding 25% to Uber shareholders and executives. Perhaps someone can write a Wikipedia article to explain these things. 41.243.14.203 ( talk) 15:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
That was me. Francis Hannaway ( talk) 15:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you HaeB, I've been outside the developed world for 7 years. I keep reading about Uber taxis and Uber eats etc, but this article just assumes you know what it is. When I've looked up hotels, or travel arrangements, they often include taxi fares and will say: taxi $4.50, Uber: $59. So, I wondered what the difference was. Wiki didn't explain anything. 🤣 Francis Hannaway ( talk) 09:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Uber has evolved since it was first created. Different types of Ubers are now offered including UberXL, Uber Comfort, and Uber Black. All are still Ubers, but offer different experiences and luxuries from the standard Uber ride. Perhaps creating a section before "Criticism" and explaining the different services that Uber offers. MarshWicker ( talk) 15:59, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi all,
ProcrastinatingReader recently moved a lot of the criticisms regarding Uber to Ridesharing company, but I don't think that's adequate. This source, for instance, deals specifically with Uber's policies regarding data sharing and pricing structure and does not necessarily apply equally to other companies. Besides, the structure of all three articles (Ridesharing company, Controversies involving Uber and Uber) is now confusing - for instance, the Ridesharing company article has a section called "Traffic congestion and carbon emissions", and then one subsection called "Congestion" under "Criticism". I edit mainly on ptwiki and don't feel comfortable challenging these decisions from an experienced editor here in enwiki, but I'm respectfully putting it out there and suggesting that the community looks into the matter.
Cheers.
Rkieferbaum ( talk) 13:44, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/uber-files
Lots of things here, any ideas on how to integrate it?
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At the head of this article is a request for clarification:
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I heard that Uber was big, so I looked it up to see what it is. I had to read a fair bit to read between the lines that probably it is a taxi service that does not have a regular team of drivers, but anyone can offer their services. So a bit like 3D Hubs, but for taxis? Ah, I now refer to '3D Hubs' as if everyone already knows what that is. Maybe that is the problem here, that so far the editors have assumed that readers already know what Uber is. Well I didn't, and came here precisely to fing that out. So could someone please write a 'Uber for dummies' intro? :) DirkvdM ( talk) 15:41, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
I have added the 180 Days Of Change to the Uber (company) page in order to show how Uber is making changes to make the experience better for driver-partners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdeno ( talk • contribs) 23:22, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I just got an email from Norton (whose antivirus I used to use) telling me that Uber has announced a security breach. I expect it is true, and might be worth mentioning in this article. Andrewa ( talk) 22:09, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
My Account has been hacked and I want to close my account. I could not sign in dto do that. could I please have a contact phone number so I can close my account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.253.16.204 ( talk) 21:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I do not have permission to include this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/19/uber-self-driving-car-kills-woman-arizona-tempe Could anyone include it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.143.164.15 ( talk) 17:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I see this article is very biased against the company Abote2 ( talk) 11:26, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
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Do we need this section here? It is redundant with the article Uber protests and legal actions. Are we going to list the regulatory actions of every city as it relates to TNCs? Some of the protests and legal actions are also not specific to Uber; they apply to all TNCs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.251.68.93 ( talk) 22:04, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The caption of the first image on the right in this section "Uber drivers on strike at Montparnasse, Paris, February 3, 2016" doesn't correspond to any incident mentioned in the article, or on the separate Uber protests article. It also seems unlikely, so where has this come from? RobsterUK ( talk) 03:44, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Can we get a section? Is this helpful? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 11:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved per request. The consensus is Uber is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. —usernamekiran (talk) 00:57, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
– Unlike Apple, Amazon, and Tinder, there is no topic of longstanding historical importance to compete for the primary topic claim against the company, which receives about ten times as many page views as all other reasonably matching topics combined - even those with the umlaut. bd2412 T 21:23, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Could someone please update the section? Thanks! Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 05:09, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The "Legal status by country" section takes up almost half the article. It currently links to the "Uber protests and legal actions" article, but it's not really about the same topic. I suggest moving the "Legal status by country" section to its own (new) article, and leaving only a summary here about the legal status around the world, with an anchor to the main article. Would anyone oppose such a move? Saturnalia0 ( talk) 04:26, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm an Uber driver in the Washington DC Metro area. For the last three weeks or so, Uber has added an additional service level that is cheaper than "Uber POOL" named "Uber Express POOL". This service has the same restrictions as "Uber POOL" with the additional conditions that the rider MAY (depending on the rider's location and destination) have to walk to a designated pick-up location and/or be dropped off prior to the desired destination and have to walk the rest of the way. The rider app will direct the rider to the pick up location and (presumably) notifies the rider if they will have to walk after being dropped off. So far I have not noticed a pick-up or drop off point that was more than a couple of blocks from the intended pick-up or destination point.
So the requested change to the entry would be: 1. Under Operations|Levels of Service|Uber POOL, remove "is the lowest cost level of service, " 2. Add a new line under Operations|Levels of Service|Uber POOL beginning with Uber Express POOL and containing pertinent information from above.
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The following sentence is gramatically incorrect: "On 18 November 2016, the eastern high court of Denmark ruled that Uber is an illegal."
It should be corrected to one of the following (or similar): "...ruled that Uber is an illegal taxi service." "...ruled that Uber is illegal." Mortenbogh ( talk) 05:36, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hello all. I feel like the Uber#Uber_protests_and_legal_actions section of the article is pretty redundant, as article Uber protests and legal actions have already listed a majority of information. I suggest leaving a small intro, and moving all country/region sections to the other article. But before I perform any edits, I want some community's input. How do you all think? Cheers. – Wefk423 ( talk) 18:43, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
1/2 of this lead, as opposed to summarize the article, seems to focus on the negative. Per WP:LEAD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.0.4.61 ( talk) 07:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
I driving Uber 2 years and 2 months. They not allowed me to. Buy car to put my own profile I don't know why this takeing long Qalimownuur ( talk) 20:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Criticism is long enough it can be moved to a separate article. More on the business and economics of Uber. What is the arranged percentage that Uber takes away from rides and is it economical? - Inowen ( nlfte) 22:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
At the core of the definition of peer-to-peer systems is that there is no central stakeholder with power over the platform, but instead peers directly coordinate and share resources. For instance, on the wiki page "Peer-to-peer" [1] it says: "Peers are equally privileged, equipotent participants in the application."
This is in complete contrast to how Uber operates: there is one stakeholder - namely Uber - who has almost full command over the platform. It is thus - by orders of magnitude - more privileged and potent than any single rider or driver (or even groups up to a certain size): Uber sets the prices, Uber, if they want, can without problem throw any single rider or driver out of the system, etc. Uber is a classical example of the "gig economy" [2].
Therefore I propose to remove the term "peer-to-peer" from the introduction. Instead it should simply be described as a ridesharing company [3] which provides ride hailing services etc. (as already mentioned in the current intro) - don't you agree? Chilliff ( talk) 11:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
It seems excessive to have so much criticism reported in this general article. In the TOC the criticism section occupies over half the space by itself! I propose to split this section into a new page and leave a summary here. -- Ita140188 ( talk) 11:46, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
I propose to add this sentence to the lead to summarize the criticism section. It is a huge section in this article and needs at least a reference in the lead:
As for other transportation network companies, Uber has been criticized for disrupting the taxicab business, increasing traffic congestion, and for unfair treatment of drivers. The company has also been criticized for its aggressive strategy in dealing with regulators and for other unlawful practices.
Of course this is a proposal, please let me know what you think. -- Ita140188 ( talk) 13:47, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
As for other transportation network companies, Uber has been criticized for unfair treatment of drivers, for disrupting the taxicab business, and for increasing traffic congestion. The company has also been criticized for its aggressive strategy in dealing with regulators and for other unlawful practices.
I was bowled over by the advertising section that is Uber#Business Model#Service options#Offered. (There are even more sub-sections with no content in this section, ie: Stakeholders). I propose a copy-edit to reduce WP:PROMO and superfluous sub-sections. AHampton ( talk) 16:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
I would certainly agree with you here. There is such a long list list of similiar services in different regions. This section needs to be cut down heavily. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 21:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
This edit changed:
CTO Thuan Pham reportedly had knowledge of Susan Fowler's sexual harassment allegation at Uber and her manager's threatened retaliation, and did nothing (These allegation were later shown to be false by an investigative reporting by TheInformation, [4] and by a Buzzfeed publication of an email from Pham to this engineering team to clarify the matter. [5]);
to:
CTO Thuan Pham was alleged to have had knowledge of and to ignore Susan Fowler's sexual harassment allegations; however, investigations by TheInformation and Buzzfeed showed this to not be the case, allowing Pham to keep his job. [6] [7]
which does not appear to be supported by the sources (though one is paywalled). Fowler has commented on Twitter ( thread), saying:
There was no "investigation" by Buzzfeed. This Buzzfeed article links to the article in The Information which, according to the article's editor, was in error and was eventually corrected
Can someone more familiar with the background review the sources and clean this up, please?
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Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:27, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
@ User:Yamla Maybe it sounds more smart... If so, then "previously to" would be even better. Besides, was my so stupid that your revert did not need any explanation? And on top of that, you are an administrator here. 85.193.247.94 ( talk) 15:13, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
The 2019 financial numbers in the sidebar are incorrect and misleading. I edited the article directly but the change was rejected. https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2020/Uber-Announces-Results-for-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2019/default.aspx is quite clear, if you search the page for "8,506" and "8,596" they are both negative and lower than the year ending 2018 numbers. This makes sense, it is hard to make 16 billion from interest to get from negative EBIT to positive net income.
Could someone please fix that?
110.174.30.127 ( talk) 22:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
I added a new sub-section titled ===Pricing options=== under ==Product overview== to identify differences in Uber's pricing models with price fixing implications between individual drivers, as well as between Uber and individual drivers. These edits were reverted @ Wikiwriter700: due violation of WP:UNDUE Does anyone have specific recommendations to improve this content? Proposals to balance it?
Product overview
Uber does not provide transportation services, instead, Uber determines and dictates the terms on which independent drivers are allocated to customers and the prices that will be charged to them, including the share earned by the driver. [1] To facilitate the scheme, Uber utilizes dynamic pricing model; prices vary according to supply and demand at the time of service.
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Pricing options
Uber’s pricing technology
According to Uber, “in the United States, upfront prices are based on the estimated length and duration of the trip. Estimates can vary based on demand patterns and real-world factors like traffic.” Uber holds absolute control over the pricing of all trips, as well as the distribution mechanism of the supply side. [2]
Multiples of Uber’s base rates
In January of 2020, Uber has released new test feature in select California service areas to enable drivers at the Santa Barbara, Sacramento and Palm Springs airports to set a fair based on a multiple of Uber’s base, time and distance rates for UberX and UberXL trips. [3]
Price fixing implications
As part of the measure to enable drivers set multiples of the Uber’s base rates, Uber states in its directives to drivers that "it is illegal under state and federal law for anyone, including rideshare drivers, to engage in price fixing. This includes agreeing or coordinating with other drivers (in airport staging lots or elsewhere) on pricing and surge pricing. The law requires that drivers must make decisions about pricing and surge pricing on their own." [4]
The purpose of price fixing is to coordinate pricing for mutual benefit. To establish a criminal violation as a result of price fixing subject to Section 1 of the Sherman Act (15 U.S.C. § 1), the government or a private party must prove three essential elements: (1) The conspiracy was knowingly formed (2) The defendant knowingly joined the conspiracy (3) The conspiracy either substantially affected interstate or foreign commerce or occurred within the flow of interstate or foreign commerce. Price fixing is an antitrust offense that is considered “per se” unreasonable restraints of trade. The courts have reasoned that price fixing has no legitimate justification and lack any redeeming competitive purpose and should, therefore, be considered unlawful without any further analysis of their reasonableness, economic justification, or other factors. [5]
Litesand ( talk) 17:06, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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Do we have a source for this claim ? It's seems to me like it's not acceptable unless it is verified and backed by a secondary source. Best, J. -- 2A02:AA13:6142:EE80:3558:D66A:C393:BF1 ( talk) 16:56, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
There are many flaws in the article, and it does not deserve B-class. First off, its 'History' section just lists events and dates, with no transition. Then there is an undue weight problem, with most of the article dedicated to Uber's controversies, and not much on its successes. Is there a reason behind B-class? Sungodtemple ( talk) 14:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
The statement that Uber collects 25% for its fee is plan wrong. Two years ago it switched to a price it pays drivers per mile and per minute which can change due to time of day and demand or a combination of the above. So drivers receiving 75% of the fare isn’t true especially since every local town gets some of the fare based on a number of factors. Uber’s portion of the fare these days tends to be higher than 25% and as high as 50% on some rides. There is no way to accurately estimate how much Uber collects on each ride. 2601:249:B01:82F0:68D8:45B2:8081:E0A2 ( talk) 23:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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I live in the DR Congo. There's no Uber here. I chose to read about it on Wikipedia but am none the wiser. The article seems to be written for people who already know what it is. 1. It's a taxi? Yes or No? 2. I hear it's more expensive than a taxi. So what's the point? 3. Are the drivers just driving their own cars, or do they have a taxi licence? 4. Aren't these drivers just moonlighting? 5. Are they insured? 6. How is it different to a taxi apart from adding 25% to Uber shareholders and executives. Perhaps someone can write a Wikipedia article to explain these things. 41.243.14.203 ( talk) 15:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
That was me. Francis Hannaway ( talk) 15:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you HaeB, I've been outside the developed world for 7 years. I keep reading about Uber taxis and Uber eats etc, but this article just assumes you know what it is. When I've looked up hotels, or travel arrangements, they often include taxi fares and will say: taxi $4.50, Uber: $59. So, I wondered what the difference was. Wiki didn't explain anything. 🤣 Francis Hannaway ( talk) 09:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Uber has evolved since it was first created. Different types of Ubers are now offered including UberXL, Uber Comfort, and Uber Black. All are still Ubers, but offer different experiences and luxuries from the standard Uber ride. Perhaps creating a section before "Criticism" and explaining the different services that Uber offers. MarshWicker ( talk) 15:59, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi all,
ProcrastinatingReader recently moved a lot of the criticisms regarding Uber to Ridesharing company, but I don't think that's adequate. This source, for instance, deals specifically with Uber's policies regarding data sharing and pricing structure and does not necessarily apply equally to other companies. Besides, the structure of all three articles (Ridesharing company, Controversies involving Uber and Uber) is now confusing - for instance, the Ridesharing company article has a section called "Traffic congestion and carbon emissions", and then one subsection called "Congestion" under "Criticism". I edit mainly on ptwiki and don't feel comfortable challenging these decisions from an experienced editor here in enwiki, but I'm respectfully putting it out there and suggesting that the community looks into the matter.
Cheers.
Rkieferbaum ( talk) 13:44, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
==Criticism==
{{#section-h::Ridesharing company|Criticism}}
John Cummings (
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12:03, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/uber-files
Lots of things here, any ideas on how to integrate it?
John Cummings (
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12:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
At the head of this article is a request for clarification:
However, the article is locked and can't be edited.
So, what's the point of the request? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 ( talk) 23:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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The redirect
Uber South Korea has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 27 § Uber South Korea until a consensus is reached.
Largoplazo (
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23:00, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
I read the page and there are many issues, especially errors in spelling and sentence structure issues. Am I able to update this page to correct the many issues inside of it? Señor Jakob ( talk) 21:01, 10 June 2023 (UTC)