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Is this the same guy as Abd-Allah Jahsh? -- Striver 06:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I tend to think the editor above is probably right. Considering how little data is actually contained in the other article, would there be any objections to merging them? John Carter ( talk) 21:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Probably is not enought. A merger requires certainty. But he is most probably not right because that Abdallah died in the battle of Uhud. Str1977 (talk) 09:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- No, they are not the same. Jahsh ibn Riyab had three sons: Abd (Abu Ahmad), Abdullah and Ubaydullah. The latter name means "little Abdullah"; it was fairly common to give a younger son the diminutive form of his older brother's name.
- Abdullah was killed at Uhud in 625 as a Muslim. Ubaydullah died a Christian in Abyssinia in 627. Abd, also a Muslim, was still alive in 641. Grace has Victory ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:55, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
I have now added some references, which I hope gives the article more integrity. I have deleted the assertion that Ubayd-Allah "divorced his wife". Although often cited, this does not seem to be true. The sources here clearly state that she served a widow's idda when he died.Petra MacDonald 14:41, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
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Is this the same guy as Abd-Allah Jahsh? -- Striver 06:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I tend to think the editor above is probably right. Considering how little data is actually contained in the other article, would there be any objections to merging them? John Carter ( talk) 21:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Probably is not enought. A merger requires certainty. But he is most probably not right because that Abdallah died in the battle of Uhud. Str1977 (talk) 09:20, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- No, they are not the same. Jahsh ibn Riyab had three sons: Abd (Abu Ahmad), Abdullah and Ubaydullah. The latter name means "little Abdullah"; it was fairly common to give a younger son the diminutive form of his older brother's name.
- Abdullah was killed at Uhud in 625 as a Muslim. Ubaydullah died a Christian in Abyssinia in 627. Abd, also a Muslim, was still alive in 641. Grace has Victory ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:55, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
I have now added some references, which I hope gives the article more integrity. I have deleted the assertion that Ubayd-Allah "divorced his wife". Although often cited, this does not seem to be true. The sources here clearly state that she served a widow's idda when he died.Petra MacDonald 14:41, 29 June 2013 (UTC)