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This is slang. Yamato advanced close, but not to "point blank range." Somebody should correct this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.245.96 ( talk) 12:26, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
This is not a copyright violation. The source of all of this information comes from http://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/g/gambier-bay.html. And since this information is published by the United States Navy, all of it falls under the public domain. (As do all US Government works) Even if the text is claimed to be copyrighted on the other site, that claim is no viable. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 00:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
After discussions, the advice is to use naval ensigns, not jacks - see Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Tables. The correct US flag has been selected by a template - see the US entry in Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Ensigns. Folks at 137 06:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The article says "As her fighters prepared to take off, they found intense antiaircraft fire of the entire task group covering their flight path. Captain Goodwin called the event "another shining example of the adaptability and courage of the young men of our country". Eight pilots of Composite Squadron 10 (VC-10) did take off to help repulse the aerial attack."
It sounds like the AA fire was coming from their TG, and that they somehow had to fly around/ over it. But that seems odd--why didn't the Gambier just arrange for the AA fire to stop while the US planes were flying over? And why did only 8 pilots (fighter planes, all?) take off? Mcswell ( talk) 22:12, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
In the references there is a macro that says: "This article incorporates text from the public domain Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships." I just wanted to clarify what I think the Wikipedia policy on plagiarism is. I looked up some of the Wikipedia policy articles to double check and I'm pretty sure that I'm correct. So it is okay to copy small parts of text from public domain sources without quoting them. Especially if the text is about something that is widely accepted within a subject area. So (an example in one wikipedia article) if a source says "the definition in Physics for Force is F = MA" that's acceptable to just copy/paste (although putting an inline citation is still a good idea). But it still is not acceptable to copy and paste paragraphs or even more than 1-2 sentences. In those cases as with any other source the appropriate thing to do is to either re-write the text in your own words or put the text in quotes with appropriate attribution. If anyone knows what parts of the article were taken from the Dictionary please document it. I took a quick look at the Dictionary entry for the Gambier Bay and nothing jumped out at me but I didn't look at all carefully. If there are large sections of text that have been pasted from that source without quotation I'm going to fix that and either put it in quotes or rewrite it and in either case add an inline citation to the Dictionary. -- MadScientistX11 ( talk) 19:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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This is slang. Yamato advanced close, but not to "point blank range." Somebody should correct this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.245.96 ( talk) 12:26, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
This is not a copyright violation. The source of all of this information comes from http://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/g/gambier-bay.html. And since this information is published by the United States Navy, all of it falls under the public domain. (As do all US Government works) Even if the text is claimed to be copyrighted on the other site, that claim is no viable. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 00:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
After discussions, the advice is to use naval ensigns, not jacks - see Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Tables. The correct US flag has been selected by a template - see the US entry in Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Ensigns. Folks at 137 06:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The article says "As her fighters prepared to take off, they found intense antiaircraft fire of the entire task group covering their flight path. Captain Goodwin called the event "another shining example of the adaptability and courage of the young men of our country". Eight pilots of Composite Squadron 10 (VC-10) did take off to help repulse the aerial attack."
It sounds like the AA fire was coming from their TG, and that they somehow had to fly around/ over it. But that seems odd--why didn't the Gambier just arrange for the AA fire to stop while the US planes were flying over? And why did only 8 pilots (fighter planes, all?) take off? Mcswell ( talk) 22:12, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
In the references there is a macro that says: "This article incorporates text from the public domain Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships." I just wanted to clarify what I think the Wikipedia policy on plagiarism is. I looked up some of the Wikipedia policy articles to double check and I'm pretty sure that I'm correct. So it is okay to copy small parts of text from public domain sources without quoting them. Especially if the text is about something that is widely accepted within a subject area. So (an example in one wikipedia article) if a source says "the definition in Physics for Force is F = MA" that's acceptable to just copy/paste (although putting an inline citation is still a good idea). But it still is not acceptable to copy and paste paragraphs or even more than 1-2 sentences. In those cases as with any other source the appropriate thing to do is to either re-write the text in your own words or put the text in quotes with appropriate attribution. If anyone knows what parts of the article were taken from the Dictionary please document it. I took a quick look at the Dictionary entry for the Gambier Bay and nothing jumped out at me but I didn't look at all carefully. If there are large sections of text that have been pasted from that source without quotation I'm going to fix that and either put it in quotes or rewrite it and in either case add an inline citation to the Dictionary. -- MadScientistX11 ( talk) 19:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)