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Seems kind of pointless advertising. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.240.5.152 ( talk) 19:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
But isn't it Universal Serial Bus Flash Drive?
I mean I am all for simple stuff but USB is just not right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emo-tional being ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
M systems have sold the patent for the first commercial model for 1.6b USA$, in the article however it's only shortly mentioned and only as the manufacture of a model designed elsewhere. I thinkg this a hugh factually mistake. I wonder if somebody can take it and clarify this issue.-- Gilisa ( talk) 08:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
some how i have added this and now i cant change anything but dont know how to un do it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.29.105 ( talk) 10:21, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
This "USB flash drive" Is wrong. It should be Universal Serial Bus flash drive . Please fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.31.193.40 ( talk) 16:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
I feel the "Windows Vista and Windows 7 ReadyBoost" is very biased, and only promotes Microsoft Windows instead of informing others about Flash Drives. It is also incomplete as it says "In Windows Vista and Windows 7, the ReadyBoost feature allows use of flash drives (up to 4 GB in the case of Windows Vista) to augment operating system memory"; this is true, but it is only used during boot up.
The whole concept of using a drive as RAM has started with the many of the UNIX based OS as "swap" partitions on Flash drives, and with many versions of windows, the user can change the page file location to a flash drive.
I think that this section should be renamed from "Windows Vista and Windows 7 ReadyBoost" to "As a Supplement to Random Access Memory". The content should be something like the following:
"Flash Drives can be used as Swap/Paging space to supplement RAM in many operating systems. With many Unix-Like Operating systems such as OS X or Linux flash drives can have swap partitions, and in many versions of Microsoft Windows, a page file can be created on the flash drives. Windows Vista and Windows 7 has a feature called ReadyBoost, that allows system files to be cached on a flash drives (up to 4 GB in the case of Windows Vista) to speed up boot time." aminy23 ( talk) 02:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I will not edit this for a few days, but I will wait for some feedback. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aminy23 ( talk • contribs) 00:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
The article claims that ReadyBoost "augments RAM". I never mentioned Super Fetch. ReadyBoost is pretty much a Cache, and it does not work too differently than Unix Swap, or Windows Paging, as files are copied from the drive to the RAM to increase performance. aminy23 ( talk) 02:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Usb hard disk redirects here. It would be an independent article (and very important, because one uses a lot of USB hard disk). .-- Diamondland ( talk) 10:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
The article states that "Phison Electronics Corporation claims to have produced the earliest "USB flash removable disk" dubbed the "Pen Drive" in May 2001.", but this seems highly irrelevant, as the article already stated that "IBM's USB flash drive became available on December 15, 2000".
It seems to me that it is pointless to have mention of the fact that Phison claims to have created the USB flash drive when the article previously said that two different companies (Trek Technology and IBM) were selling them BEFORE the date that Phison claims to have created them. Charwinger21 ( talk) 18:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
If no one has any problems with this I'll go ahead and change it Charwinger21 ( talk) 00:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
"A drawback to the small size is that they are easily misplaced, left behind, or otherwise lost."
I think it's a little odd to characterise their small size as a disadvantage. Human falability is a disadvantage - not the USB drive! Adam1516 ( talk) 11:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Would this be appropriate information here? Many Mac users are looking for info on how to free up space on their USB flash drives. (Empty the trash.) Perhaps also, various ways to get space without emptying the trash. Zipzip50 ( talk) 03:24, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I have worked at several high schools in Victoria, Australia, in the past few years, and have noticed that in that environment the almost universal common name for these devices is simply "USB". Is such usage common elsewhere? I would love to be able to look it up, and be able to formally confirm my original research, but the term USB is just too common to do any meaningful search. (Unless anyone else has a great idea.) I note that the common names currently listed in the Naming section are not sourced either, but I have no problem with accepting that they are real. Should I /can I add "USB" to the list? HiLo48 ( talk) 05:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
"Memory stick" seems to be what they are incorrectly called more than "USB" -- 194.83.82.3 ( talk) 09:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
"Channel Five's Gadget Show cooked a flash drive with propane,"
What does that mean? Propane boils at -42°C at 1 atm.
any chance of a source as to preperation done in cooking/recipe. i am very curious on its texture/taste — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.91.9.153 ( talk) 22:54, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
The File system section of this article refers to FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32 file systems being used on flash drives. This article links to
and that article refers to a set of file systems with completely different names. Are these 2 sets of file systems alternatives to each other, or are they at different levels? Could someone put in an explanation please? FrankSier ( talk) 13:44, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I have heard (and read reports) about incidents in which USB flash drives have failed (somehow) when unplugged before writes are fully complete.
Can anybody cast more light on that, and then add something appropriate to the article. (Well, even if it is a total red herring, I'd think a note to that effect would be appropriate in the article. But, I believe it is a real problem.)
Some of the questions I have:
Rhkramer ( talk) 17:22, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=USB_flash_drive&diff=522009121&oldid=521697537
Can someone with more skills fix the first part — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.37.96.35 ( talk) 23:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
They look like reliable sources, but I believe in the contrary. They are merely LINKS to PLACES. It's not a news source or anything of the sort. Longbyte1 ( talk) 21:08, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Can more specific information about power consumption be given? Obviously it isn't significant for a drive connected to a desktop computer but might be significant for a handheld computer. I'd guess a flash drive consumes less power than the display or the audio of a cell phone. Numbers would be interesting. The article on SD cards has such information. Regards, ... PeterEasthope ( talk) 22:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
At one time is was not considered a good long-term backup or long-term archiving medium because several bits would go south after perhaps ten(?) years. While WORMs are mentioned as lasting indefinitely, regular flash drives are not. It is implied here that flash drive data will last forever in the Backup section, but not specifically mentioned. It seems this info should be specifically addressed, —perhaps in the backup or the Advantages/Disadvantages sections. (...or even an additional Archiving secion?)
--
68.127.87.79 (
talk) 01:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)Doug Bashford
I would like to propose mentioning Kiss Does... Rave in the Media storage and marketing section of this article, as it was the first album to be released on USB stick in the UK (see here). If the section already contains too many examples, perhaps a solution might be to delete some of the unsourced or badly sourced examples first (e.g. The Beatles, Kanye West, Ayumi Hamasaki, etc.). Thanks, A Thousand Doors ( talk | contribs) 16:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm confused as to why the concept that some USB flash drives have write-protection switches is in the "Disadvantages" section. It does compare them to SD which has faulty (host-based) write protection switches, but I don't see that as a "disadvantage" either, of course. The only "disadvantage" I can see possibly related is that it mentions that these switches are becoming less common in most USB flash drives. But that still doesn't explain why the fact that some have write-protection switches is a "disadvantage." JGoggan ( talk) 18:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
We've had a bunch of sections added recently that are makign the article quiet big. I'd like to trim a few. The theory I'm working on is that if something can be done by another storage device (such as a USB connected Hard drive or DVD or a Secure Digital card or a SAAT Hard drive) then it doesn't really belong on this page.
So the sections "Booting operating systems" , "Operating system installation media" , "Backup", "Updating motherboard firmware" should really be removed since they could just as easily be slightly reworded an put in the "External Hard Drive" article (which doesn't exist). - SimonLyall ( talk) 01:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
@ SimonLyall: After almost nine days, it seems like nobody else cares, so the silence could be taken as "good to go". :) Agreed? — Dsimic ( talk | contribs) 02:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
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Seems kind of pointless advertising. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.240.5.152 ( talk) 19:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
But isn't it Universal Serial Bus Flash Drive?
I mean I am all for simple stuff but USB is just not right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emo-tional being ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
M systems have sold the patent for the first commercial model for 1.6b USA$, in the article however it's only shortly mentioned and only as the manufacture of a model designed elsewhere. I thinkg this a hugh factually mistake. I wonder if somebody can take it and clarify this issue.-- Gilisa ( talk) 08:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
some how i have added this and now i cant change anything but dont know how to un do it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.29.105 ( talk) 10:21, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
This "USB flash drive" Is wrong. It should be Universal Serial Bus flash drive . Please fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.31.193.40 ( talk) 16:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
I feel the "Windows Vista and Windows 7 ReadyBoost" is very biased, and only promotes Microsoft Windows instead of informing others about Flash Drives. It is also incomplete as it says "In Windows Vista and Windows 7, the ReadyBoost feature allows use of flash drives (up to 4 GB in the case of Windows Vista) to augment operating system memory"; this is true, but it is only used during boot up.
The whole concept of using a drive as RAM has started with the many of the UNIX based OS as "swap" partitions on Flash drives, and with many versions of windows, the user can change the page file location to a flash drive.
I think that this section should be renamed from "Windows Vista and Windows 7 ReadyBoost" to "As a Supplement to Random Access Memory". The content should be something like the following:
"Flash Drives can be used as Swap/Paging space to supplement RAM in many operating systems. With many Unix-Like Operating systems such as OS X or Linux flash drives can have swap partitions, and in many versions of Microsoft Windows, a page file can be created on the flash drives. Windows Vista and Windows 7 has a feature called ReadyBoost, that allows system files to be cached on a flash drives (up to 4 GB in the case of Windows Vista) to speed up boot time." aminy23 ( talk) 02:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I will not edit this for a few days, but I will wait for some feedback. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aminy23 ( talk • contribs) 00:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
The article claims that ReadyBoost "augments RAM". I never mentioned Super Fetch. ReadyBoost is pretty much a Cache, and it does not work too differently than Unix Swap, or Windows Paging, as files are copied from the drive to the RAM to increase performance. aminy23 ( talk) 02:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Usb hard disk redirects here. It would be an independent article (and very important, because one uses a lot of USB hard disk). .-- Diamondland ( talk) 10:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
The article states that "Phison Electronics Corporation claims to have produced the earliest "USB flash removable disk" dubbed the "Pen Drive" in May 2001.", but this seems highly irrelevant, as the article already stated that "IBM's USB flash drive became available on December 15, 2000".
It seems to me that it is pointless to have mention of the fact that Phison claims to have created the USB flash drive when the article previously said that two different companies (Trek Technology and IBM) were selling them BEFORE the date that Phison claims to have created them. Charwinger21 ( talk) 18:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
If no one has any problems with this I'll go ahead and change it Charwinger21 ( talk) 00:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
"A drawback to the small size is that they are easily misplaced, left behind, or otherwise lost."
I think it's a little odd to characterise their small size as a disadvantage. Human falability is a disadvantage - not the USB drive! Adam1516 ( talk) 11:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Would this be appropriate information here? Many Mac users are looking for info on how to free up space on their USB flash drives. (Empty the trash.) Perhaps also, various ways to get space without emptying the trash. Zipzip50 ( talk) 03:24, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I have worked at several high schools in Victoria, Australia, in the past few years, and have noticed that in that environment the almost universal common name for these devices is simply "USB". Is such usage common elsewhere? I would love to be able to look it up, and be able to formally confirm my original research, but the term USB is just too common to do any meaningful search. (Unless anyone else has a great idea.) I note that the common names currently listed in the Naming section are not sourced either, but I have no problem with accepting that they are real. Should I /can I add "USB" to the list? HiLo48 ( talk) 05:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
"Memory stick" seems to be what they are incorrectly called more than "USB" -- 194.83.82.3 ( talk) 09:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
"Channel Five's Gadget Show cooked a flash drive with propane,"
What does that mean? Propane boils at -42°C at 1 atm.
any chance of a source as to preperation done in cooking/recipe. i am very curious on its texture/taste — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.91.9.153 ( talk) 22:54, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
The File system section of this article refers to FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32 file systems being used on flash drives. This article links to
and that article refers to a set of file systems with completely different names. Are these 2 sets of file systems alternatives to each other, or are they at different levels? Could someone put in an explanation please? FrankSier ( talk) 13:44, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I have heard (and read reports) about incidents in which USB flash drives have failed (somehow) when unplugged before writes are fully complete.
Can anybody cast more light on that, and then add something appropriate to the article. (Well, even if it is a total red herring, I'd think a note to that effect would be appropriate in the article. But, I believe it is a real problem.)
Some of the questions I have:
Rhkramer ( talk) 17:22, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=USB_flash_drive&diff=522009121&oldid=521697537
Can someone with more skills fix the first part — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.37.96.35 ( talk) 23:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
They look like reliable sources, but I believe in the contrary. They are merely LINKS to PLACES. It's not a news source or anything of the sort. Longbyte1 ( talk) 21:08, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Can more specific information about power consumption be given? Obviously it isn't significant for a drive connected to a desktop computer but might be significant for a handheld computer. I'd guess a flash drive consumes less power than the display or the audio of a cell phone. Numbers would be interesting. The article on SD cards has such information. Regards, ... PeterEasthope ( talk) 22:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
At one time is was not considered a good long-term backup or long-term archiving medium because several bits would go south after perhaps ten(?) years. While WORMs are mentioned as lasting indefinitely, regular flash drives are not. It is implied here that flash drive data will last forever in the Backup section, but not specifically mentioned. It seems this info should be specifically addressed, —perhaps in the backup or the Advantages/Disadvantages sections. (...or even an additional Archiving secion?)
--
68.127.87.79 (
talk) 01:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)Doug Bashford
I would like to propose mentioning Kiss Does... Rave in the Media storage and marketing section of this article, as it was the first album to be released on USB stick in the UK (see here). If the section already contains too many examples, perhaps a solution might be to delete some of the unsourced or badly sourced examples first (e.g. The Beatles, Kanye West, Ayumi Hamasaki, etc.). Thanks, A Thousand Doors ( talk | contribs) 16:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm confused as to why the concept that some USB flash drives have write-protection switches is in the "Disadvantages" section. It does compare them to SD which has faulty (host-based) write protection switches, but I don't see that as a "disadvantage" either, of course. The only "disadvantage" I can see possibly related is that it mentions that these switches are becoming less common in most USB flash drives. But that still doesn't explain why the fact that some have write-protection switches is a "disadvantage." JGoggan ( talk) 18:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
We've had a bunch of sections added recently that are makign the article quiet big. I'd like to trim a few. The theory I'm working on is that if something can be done by another storage device (such as a USB connected Hard drive or DVD or a Secure Digital card or a SAAT Hard drive) then it doesn't really belong on this page.
So the sections "Booting operating systems" , "Operating system installation media" , "Backup", "Updating motherboard firmware" should really be removed since they could just as easily be slightly reworded an put in the "External Hard Drive" article (which doesn't exist). - SimonLyall ( talk) 01:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
@ SimonLyall: After almost nine days, it seems like nobody else cares, so the silence could be taken as "good to go". :) Agreed? — Dsimic ( talk | contribs) 02:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)