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An article of this name (and subject) was deleted circa 26 November 2016. However several links to least 5 significant) to UK Rail Leasing exist. On 17 July 2017 the article was recreated as a link to Rail freight in Great Britain. As a Wikipedian Reader clicking on a UK Rail leasing link I quite frankly wondered why I had been directed to that page.
Overall I want to read Wikipedia and get some idea who UK Rail leasing are.
Reviewing the deletion discussion:
At about the same time 'Rail Operations Group' and 'Europhoenix' articles have gone the same way (and had the same redirects to Rail freight in Great Britain. Because they use the same base (and these companies sometimes work co-operatively though they are essentially independent) I have chosen to merge these here ... not totally perfect. I personally am happy to split these off but I don't want to do the footwork. However at least a basic description of what they are about is now present here and the links to these companies should now make sense. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 21:43, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Proposing time has come to Split Rail Operations Group back to it's own article. Being headquartered at Derby, doing things beyond Leicester TMD, having a couple of things (not yet mentioned) which give more notabilty and beginnning to get undue weight in this article are some reasons. Because the previous Rail Operations Group article was deleted it is I likely perform this split cautiously at some point. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 06:53, 19 March 2018 (UTC) This has been done. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 06:58, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Recently an attempt to split the unrelated Europhoenix article into its own article was rebuffed on the basis of a prior deletion consensus From what I can see the only rationale for including Europhoenix in the UKRL article is that the two have had some limited business dealings, certainly not enough to say they are intertwined.
By having a detailed section with an infobox the reader could easily misled into thinking Europhoenix is a subsidiary of UKRL, which isn't the case. They are legally quite separate, each having different owners, directors and registered addresses as evidenced by their Europhoenix and UK Rail Leasing Companies House filings.
It appears to be a case of shoehorning the Europhoenix text into the UKRL article for the sake of it putting it somewhere. The vast majority of the text in the section is of no relevance to UKRL. Either the Europhoenix text should be strong enough to stand in its own article or the text condensed to a brief summary without the detail, much like the ETL and ROG sections immediately below.
Alternatively we could delete this article, it too was the subject of a deletion consensus. 185.201.60.217 ( talk) 07:45, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
@IPA (I'd like to use IPA if I may as you IP changes - or any other pseudonym you'd prefer)
Djm-leighpark ( talk) 15:35, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Per above section it is likely Europhoenix will fly off this article shortly. But UKRL needs an update to to relate to events over the summer. In particular sale many 56's to GBRF for alternative re-engineering. While some of what has gone on is well known (or guessed) reliable sources are more difficult. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 15:41, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
![]() | Text and/or other creative content from this version of UK Rail Leasing was copied or moved into Rail Operations Group with this edit on 22 March 2018. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on November 18 2016. The result of the discussion was delete. |
![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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An article of this name (and subject) was deleted circa 26 November 2016. However several links to least 5 significant) to UK Rail Leasing exist. On 17 July 2017 the article was recreated as a link to Rail freight in Great Britain. As a Wikipedian Reader clicking on a UK Rail leasing link I quite frankly wondered why I had been directed to that page.
Overall I want to read Wikipedia and get some idea who UK Rail leasing are.
Reviewing the deletion discussion:
At about the same time 'Rail Operations Group' and 'Europhoenix' articles have gone the same way (and had the same redirects to Rail freight in Great Britain. Because they use the same base (and these companies sometimes work co-operatively though they are essentially independent) I have chosen to merge these here ... not totally perfect. I personally am happy to split these off but I don't want to do the footwork. However at least a basic description of what they are about is now present here and the links to these companies should now make sense. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 21:43, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Proposing time has come to Split Rail Operations Group back to it's own article. Being headquartered at Derby, doing things beyond Leicester TMD, having a couple of things (not yet mentioned) which give more notabilty and beginnning to get undue weight in this article are some reasons. Because the previous Rail Operations Group article was deleted it is I likely perform this split cautiously at some point. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 06:53, 19 March 2018 (UTC) This has been done. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 06:58, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Recently an attempt to split the unrelated Europhoenix article into its own article was rebuffed on the basis of a prior deletion consensus From what I can see the only rationale for including Europhoenix in the UKRL article is that the two have had some limited business dealings, certainly not enough to say they are intertwined.
By having a detailed section with an infobox the reader could easily misled into thinking Europhoenix is a subsidiary of UKRL, which isn't the case. They are legally quite separate, each having different owners, directors and registered addresses as evidenced by their Europhoenix and UK Rail Leasing Companies House filings.
It appears to be a case of shoehorning the Europhoenix text into the UKRL article for the sake of it putting it somewhere. The vast majority of the text in the section is of no relevance to UKRL. Either the Europhoenix text should be strong enough to stand in its own article or the text condensed to a brief summary without the detail, much like the ETL and ROG sections immediately below.
Alternatively we could delete this article, it too was the subject of a deletion consensus. 185.201.60.217 ( talk) 07:45, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
@IPA (I'd like to use IPA if I may as you IP changes - or any other pseudonym you'd prefer)
Djm-leighpark ( talk) 15:35, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Per above section it is likely Europhoenix will fly off this article shortly. But UKRL needs an update to to relate to events over the summer. In particular sale many 56's to GBRF for alternative re-engineering. While some of what has gone on is well known (or guessed) reliable sources are more difficult. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 15:41, 16 September 2018 (UTC)