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UKIP cannot be listed as "British Nationalist" as keeps being added on the profile. UKIP do not hold the opinion of Britain being superior and advocate learning from other nations. For example Canadians education system and the French health care system. "British Patriotism/Patriotic" is a more accurate description. User:RoverTheBendInSussex ( talk) 17:32, 19 September 2016 (GMT)
RE; Bondegezou "it looks to me that User:RoverTheBendInSussex has not made a compelling case and no other editors supporting his/her position." Not made a compelling case? I posted 3 academic links showing UKIP as being an aspiring Patriotic party, without any mention of nationalism. Is that how you see choice making? If a mob says something, it must be true? So if I were to get a group of 5 friends of mine to list Labour as being antisemitic, with 3 articles of academic data showing a rise in antisemitism in the party and only 2 people opposed that view. I would be able to add that to their ideology? RE; Dtellett, my concern is when people start dropping things like "nativism" into the debate, which by definition is "a policy of favoring native inhabitants as opposed to immigrants. As well as the revival or perpetuation of an indigenous culture especially in opposition to acculturation." It completely ignores the fact, that in the UKIP charter, it lists a reconnection with the Commonwealth, and continuation of immigration just at what it perceives to be a sustainable level. When adding "British Nationalism", it inadvertently "stomps on the toes" of other party ideology, and paints a very false impression. My concern is that a distinction needs to be made between the hard line "nationalist", being open minded to absorbing systems employed by other countries and wanting manageable immigration as opposed to ending immigration. Wanting a cohesive society, as opposed to a segregated society. I suggest that some contrast needs drawing before "British Nationalism" is added as an ideology without further context being added at the same time. User:RoverTheBendInSussex ( talk) 15:43, 21 September 2016 (GMT)
Certainly being patriotic and in favour of sustainable immigration does not make one nationalistic, but it precludes one from being a civic nationalist, because they would see these policies as chauvinism and xenophobia. That is not to say that the civic nationalists are right, just that they hold a different view from the ethnic/cultural nationalists. Both groups seek independence from Europe, but ethnic/cultural nationalists see ethnic British and British culture as under threat, while civic nationalists think that the people who happen to live in the UK, which is not heterogeneous, have a right to self-government. Immigration benefits the UK, according to them, by increasing multiculturalism. The UK should have more Muslims and blacks, more people speaking different languages. I don't know why you are presenting semantic arguments about Europe. Surely you do not think that UKIP advocates political dependence on Europe. Is your concern that UKIP says it wants to be part of Europe, just independent from the EU Commission? TFD ( talk) 22:06, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Being patriotic, and favouring controlled immigration does not preclude a party from being Civic Nationalist unless you are implying that Patriotism and favouring controlled immigration is xenophobic, and goes against values of freedom, tolerance, equality, and individual rights. All of those things exist under Civic Nationalism. I don't like your implying that UKIP policy is to prejudice against people based on ethnic or cultural backgrounds. If people who quite obviously hate UKIP took the time to a) look at UKIP's immigration policy and b) took the time to look at UKIP's charter they would see that UKIP advocate a balanced global immigration system based on skills, and not based on nationality of birth as the pro-EU immigration system backed by the mainstream parties employs. UKIP also advocates a closer economic and migratory immigration system with the Commonwealth, even going as far as to moot a policy where by people would be able to easily pass between Commonwealth countries for non economic migratory reasons, for family gatherings etc. My concern is that people on this page who are trying to post the inaccurate "Nationalist" edit, are doing so to present the picture of tribalism and xenophobia. It doesn't portray UKIP accurately and should NOT be allowed. UKIP advocate political Independence from the EU, not Europe. User:RoverTheBendInSussex ( talk) 18:56, 27 September 2016 (GMT)
Rover is still edit warring to ensure that their own personal opinions are reflected in the article while showing no regard for the reliable sources ( here - "If UKIP are Nationalist. Then so are the SNP. I am bored of this now. Pick nothing, or Civic Nationalist"). Any thoughts on how to deal with this? I'm pretty sure that we're in disruptive editing territory now. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 16:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Justin Trudeau's party did not "put immigration at the centre of their campaign", did not have a "5 year moratium on unskilled immigration" in its manifesto, and his main priority with his national border has been to loosen controls over it and let in 25,000 refugees, whilst his party champions the idea of state-supported multiculturalism and has historically championed greater immigration. Hence no intellectually honest and politically aware person would suggest that the political ideologies of UKIP and the Liberal Party of Canada were similar. If you actually had any sources elaborating on why UKIP's form of nationalism should be considered a "civic" form primarily concerned with promoting pluralism and social liberalism rather than a distinctly "British" form of promoting Euroscepticism, the Union and particularly the decidedly non-"civic" primary political objective of fewer immigrants and values of less multiculturalism, presumably you'd have posted them by now... The fact some newspapers have used "nationalism" in a critical way is totally irrelevant. Some newspapers have used "conservative" as a negative term; but that doesn't mean Wikipedia redefines the political ideology of the Conservative Party as "compassionate conservative" to appease their more sensitive supporters. Dtellett ( talk) 11:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Very impressed reading this, a lot of academic sources, reads very well. Most Wikipedia articles are a hotchpotch of one-line sections with references from news sources everytime the subject is in the news. And I haven't even mentioned how it describes the most polarising party in Britain without a whiff of an axe to grind in either direction. Whoever has contributed the most to this article should nominate it for a good or featured status. Anarcho-authoritarian ( talk) 16:09, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Some Uneducated person is getting rid of my post saying Since the referendum the polls have seen a Big decline in UKIP standing in the polls even some say the LibDems have retaking their 3rd place spot. its a well Know Fact that since the referendum its support have tanked and that's coming from a UKIP voter. /info/en/?search=Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
If I post the comment again I'm thinking I may need to put a Need Citation tag. Torygreen84 ( talk) 11:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I looked at the internet andi found this this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/01/it-doesnt-matter-who-replaces-nigel-farage-without-him-theresa-m/ it talks about the Decline of Ukip. So can I now post it. Torygreen84 ( talk) 04:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
In the 'Nationalism and British Unionism' section, is it really entirely accurate to say that UKIP's support base is centred largely in England and mobilises English nationalism above all else? With Scotland, you have a point seeing that UKIP support is so low there, but (other than Douglas Carswell) the only place where UKIP have any elected officials at the moment is in the Welsh Assembly, so on that basis it seems outdated to describe them as an English-only party. I realise that complete objectivity is difficult, but to me the section focusses too much on one man (Richard Hayton) and his perception of UKIP as Anglocentric, ignoring the stark reality of Welsh Euroscepticism and strong UKIP support in the Southern valleys. 86.174.140.40 ( talk) 21:17, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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During the 2010–15 Parliament, two Conservative MPs defected to UKIP and were re-elected in subsequent by-elections. At the 2015 general election, UKIP retained one of these seats ( Clacton) and received over 30% of the vote in Boston & Skegness, South Thanet, Heywood & Middleton and Rochester and Strood.
Election year | # of total votes | % of overall vote | # of seats won | Outcome |
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1997 [1] | 105,722 ![]() |
0.3% ![]() |
0 / 650 ![]() |
No seats |
2001 [2] | 390,563 ![]() |
1.5% ![]() |
0 / 650 ![]() |
No seats |
2005 [3] | 603,298 ![]() |
2.2% ![]() |
0 / 646 ![]() |
No seats |
2010 [4] | 919,546 ![]() |
3.1% ![]() |
0 / 650 ![]() |
No seats |
2015 [5] | 3,881,099 ![]() |
12.6% ![]() |
1 / 650 ![]() |
Opposition |
Election year | # of total votes | % of overall vote | # of seats won | Rank |
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1994 [6] | 155,487 ![]() |
1% ![]() |
0 / 87
|
8 ![]() |
1999 [7] | 696,057 ![]() |
6.7% ![]() |
3 / 87
|
4 ![]() |
2004 [8] | 2,650,768 ![]() |
16.1% ![]() |
12 / 78
|
3 ![]() |
2009 [9] | 2,498,226 ![]() |
16.6% ![]() |
13 / 72
|
2 ![]() |
2014 [10] | 4,376,635 ![]() |
27.5% ![]() |
24 / 73
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1 ![]() |
Year | Percentage of vote (constituency) | Percentage of vote (regional) | Seats won (constituency) | Seats won (regional) | Seats won (total) | Outcome |
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1999 | 0.0% (N/A) | 0.0% (N/A) | 0 / 40 |
0 / 20 |
0 / 60 |
No seats |
2003 | 2.3% (19,795) | 3.5% (29,427) | 0 / 40 |
0 / 20 |
0 / 60 |
No seats |
2007 | 1.8% (18,047) | 4.0% (38,490) | 0 / 40 |
0 / 20 |
0 / 60 |
No seats |
2011 | 0.0% (N/A) | 4.6% (43,756) | 0 / 40 |
0 / 20 |
0 / 60 |
No seats |
2016 | 12.5% (127,0385) | 13.0% (132,138) | 0 / 40 |
7 / 20 |
7 / 60 |
Opposition |
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Carswell has quit UKIP. They now have 0 MPs in the commons. 82.1.22.116 ( talk) 11:51, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
The Voter Base section says, quoting a study by Ford and Goodwin, that "55% of UKIP supporters had left school aged 16 or under, with only 24% having attended university, making it clear that the party primarily appealed to the least educated in society." This conclusion ought to be noted as disputed. Analysis of the 2011 census shows that only 27% of the population aged 16-74 had a degree, implying that the figure of 24% of UKIP supporters having attended university is not far off the national average. See this link: [1] Any difference is likely to be explained by the age balance of UKIP supporters, since university participation rates have been rising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.231.29.20 ( talk) 11:22, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Shouldn't the history section cover the long-running feud within the party between Farage/Banks and Carswell? Bondegezou ( talk) 22:36, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Steve Crowther is now the interim leader after Paul Nuttall, not Peter Whittle Weburbia ( talk) 14:00, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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Should the "Political position" in the infobox be changed to "Right Wing to Far Right"?- Although previously there was not a consensus that UKIP contained far-right elements, I would suggest that is certainly the case now due to the ideological changes in the party following the loss of the European Union emphasis. For example, since the Brexit vote, the party's drift towards more anti-Islamic based positions in the past year is strong evidence of it, but more explicitly, the rise of Anne Marie Waters in the party and subsequent entryism, her likely successful leadership bid and her alliances with groups such as the EDL very much bring the party into "far-right" territory -- TF92 ( talk) 20:46, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
This is unacceptable. Lay of the PA's and discus content only.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41447568 100.15.117.207 ( talk) 15:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
I updated the logo. The former logo is public domain so won't be deleted in a hurry. It has obvious relevence to the party as it was used for so long, so I ask where should it be placed in the article? Anarcho-authoritarian ( talk) 13:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Pinging regular editor Midnightblueowl, please ping other regular editors you know of Anarcho-authoritarian ( talk) 13:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
On a related note, the party used in its first years a red, blue and yellow palette, and a logo with the British flag stylised like an eight-point compass. [20] [21] While colours and logos are hardly the most written-about aspect of any political party, there could be room in the article for a brief summary of such. Anarcho-authoritarian ( talk) 15:11, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
The current logo is very grainy, no transparent background, and displays very poorly on all displays other than smart devices. Anyone with a better image? (There was one earlier today that has an excellent image but it appears to have been removed or deleted.)
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Update councillor number to 269: http://www.opencouncildata.co.uk/ 92.232.242.16 ( talk) 20:43, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
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Sport and politics: How is Similarly, UKIP's 2017 manifesto pledged to declare 23 June British Independence Day and observe it annually as a
national holiday.
commentary? It's a statement of fact. It appears to be continuation of previous statements about other holidays they want to declare and doesn't appear undue.
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Update Councillor number to 248. 2A00:23C4:4B34:5A00:E881:6CD6:31BF:522D ( talk) 14:43, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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UKIP AM Mandy Jones will not sit with Assembly Group. Change Assembly Group number to 5. 2A00:23C4:4B34:5A00:E881:6CD6:31BF:522D ( talk) 14:43, 9 January 2018 (UTC) Source? Slatersteven ( talk) 14:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Change Welsh Assembly number to 5. Mandy Jones has been expelled from the Assembly Group. 94.173.179.46 ( talk) 20:06, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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Change MEP number from 20 to 19. Jonathan Arnott has resigned. 94.173.179.46 ( talk) 17:30, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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Why isn't UKIP described as a "far right" party, like Britain First? ( 86.133.84.196 ( talk) 03:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC))
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Update Councillor number from 206 to 200. 2001:630:E4:4220:214B:1982:C06:6F2C ( talk) 19:57, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Mention that, like the Green Party, UKIP is opposed to HS2, on the ground that it is a pernicious project supported by bogus arguments. Seadowns ( talk) 11:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Are we sure they have 183 councillors? In March the figure was 198, and according to this they've just lost 123 in the local elections? Surely the figures need updating. This is Paul ( talk) 16:35, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
They won 176 seats in 2015, 58 in 2016, 1 seat in 2017 and 3 in 2018. Meaning they've won 238 seats over the four year local election cycle. Their total councillors might be lower than that now as a result of lost by-elections and defections, but I can't see how it could have gone as low as 126, as stated at the moment. 92.236.40.249 ( talk) 02:14, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
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Change number of MEPs from 19 to 17. MassiveNewOrderFan ( talk) 21:00, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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Change the number of MEPs from 18 to 17. (Jonathan Arnott and James Carver have resigned in recent months). MassiveNewOrderFan ( talk) 15:05, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
UKIP has seemingly abandoned it's new logo in favour of the old Pound one, incl on their official Facebook, Twitter accounts, website too I think. Should wikipedia reflect that? 86.133.239.192 ( talk) 23:50, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Here [1] Batten talks about the logo change and how it was the first "executive decision" he took as Interim Leader 2A02:C7D:16D3:E700:7471:3DE8:1516:C0F3 ( talk) 23:48, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
https://web.archive.org/web/20180619073614/https://twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP/status/1008965204296765440 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.171.41 ( talk) 07:42, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
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UKIP cannot be listed as "British Nationalist" as keeps being added on the profile. UKIP do not hold the opinion of Britain being superior and advocate learning from other nations. For example Canadians education system and the French health care system. "British Patriotism/Patriotic" is a more accurate description. User:RoverTheBendInSussex ( talk) 17:32, 19 September 2016 (GMT)
RE; Bondegezou "it looks to me that User:RoverTheBendInSussex has not made a compelling case and no other editors supporting his/her position." Not made a compelling case? I posted 3 academic links showing UKIP as being an aspiring Patriotic party, without any mention of nationalism. Is that how you see choice making? If a mob says something, it must be true? So if I were to get a group of 5 friends of mine to list Labour as being antisemitic, with 3 articles of academic data showing a rise in antisemitism in the party and only 2 people opposed that view. I would be able to add that to their ideology? RE; Dtellett, my concern is when people start dropping things like "nativism" into the debate, which by definition is "a policy of favoring native inhabitants as opposed to immigrants. As well as the revival or perpetuation of an indigenous culture especially in opposition to acculturation." It completely ignores the fact, that in the UKIP charter, it lists a reconnection with the Commonwealth, and continuation of immigration just at what it perceives to be a sustainable level. When adding "British Nationalism", it inadvertently "stomps on the toes" of other party ideology, and paints a very false impression. My concern is that a distinction needs to be made between the hard line "nationalist", being open minded to absorbing systems employed by other countries and wanting manageable immigration as opposed to ending immigration. Wanting a cohesive society, as opposed to a segregated society. I suggest that some contrast needs drawing before "British Nationalism" is added as an ideology without further context being added at the same time. User:RoverTheBendInSussex ( talk) 15:43, 21 September 2016 (GMT)
Certainly being patriotic and in favour of sustainable immigration does not make one nationalistic, but it precludes one from being a civic nationalist, because they would see these policies as chauvinism and xenophobia. That is not to say that the civic nationalists are right, just that they hold a different view from the ethnic/cultural nationalists. Both groups seek independence from Europe, but ethnic/cultural nationalists see ethnic British and British culture as under threat, while civic nationalists think that the people who happen to live in the UK, which is not heterogeneous, have a right to self-government. Immigration benefits the UK, according to them, by increasing multiculturalism. The UK should have more Muslims and blacks, more people speaking different languages. I don't know why you are presenting semantic arguments about Europe. Surely you do not think that UKIP advocates political dependence on Europe. Is your concern that UKIP says it wants to be part of Europe, just independent from the EU Commission? TFD ( talk) 22:06, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Being patriotic, and favouring controlled immigration does not preclude a party from being Civic Nationalist unless you are implying that Patriotism and favouring controlled immigration is xenophobic, and goes against values of freedom, tolerance, equality, and individual rights. All of those things exist under Civic Nationalism. I don't like your implying that UKIP policy is to prejudice against people based on ethnic or cultural backgrounds. If people who quite obviously hate UKIP took the time to a) look at UKIP's immigration policy and b) took the time to look at UKIP's charter they would see that UKIP advocate a balanced global immigration system based on skills, and not based on nationality of birth as the pro-EU immigration system backed by the mainstream parties employs. UKIP also advocates a closer economic and migratory immigration system with the Commonwealth, even going as far as to moot a policy where by people would be able to easily pass between Commonwealth countries for non economic migratory reasons, for family gatherings etc. My concern is that people on this page who are trying to post the inaccurate "Nationalist" edit, are doing so to present the picture of tribalism and xenophobia. It doesn't portray UKIP accurately and should NOT be allowed. UKIP advocate political Independence from the EU, not Europe. User:RoverTheBendInSussex ( talk) 18:56, 27 September 2016 (GMT)
Rover is still edit warring to ensure that their own personal opinions are reflected in the article while showing no regard for the reliable sources ( here - "If UKIP are Nationalist. Then so are the SNP. I am bored of this now. Pick nothing, or Civic Nationalist"). Any thoughts on how to deal with this? I'm pretty sure that we're in disruptive editing territory now. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 16:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Justin Trudeau's party did not "put immigration at the centre of their campaign", did not have a "5 year moratium on unskilled immigration" in its manifesto, and his main priority with his national border has been to loosen controls over it and let in 25,000 refugees, whilst his party champions the idea of state-supported multiculturalism and has historically championed greater immigration. Hence no intellectually honest and politically aware person would suggest that the political ideologies of UKIP and the Liberal Party of Canada were similar. If you actually had any sources elaborating on why UKIP's form of nationalism should be considered a "civic" form primarily concerned with promoting pluralism and social liberalism rather than a distinctly "British" form of promoting Euroscepticism, the Union and particularly the decidedly non-"civic" primary political objective of fewer immigrants and values of less multiculturalism, presumably you'd have posted them by now... The fact some newspapers have used "nationalism" in a critical way is totally irrelevant. Some newspapers have used "conservative" as a negative term; but that doesn't mean Wikipedia redefines the political ideology of the Conservative Party as "compassionate conservative" to appease their more sensitive supporters. Dtellett ( talk) 11:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Very impressed reading this, a lot of academic sources, reads very well. Most Wikipedia articles are a hotchpotch of one-line sections with references from news sources everytime the subject is in the news. And I haven't even mentioned how it describes the most polarising party in Britain without a whiff of an axe to grind in either direction. Whoever has contributed the most to this article should nominate it for a good or featured status. Anarcho-authoritarian ( talk) 16:09, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Some Uneducated person is getting rid of my post saying Since the referendum the polls have seen a Big decline in UKIP standing in the polls even some say the LibDems have retaking their 3rd place spot. its a well Know Fact that since the referendum its support have tanked and that's coming from a UKIP voter. /info/en/?search=Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
If I post the comment again I'm thinking I may need to put a Need Citation tag. Torygreen84 ( talk) 11:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
I looked at the internet andi found this this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/01/it-doesnt-matter-who-replaces-nigel-farage-without-him-theresa-m/ it talks about the Decline of Ukip. So can I now post it. Torygreen84 ( talk) 04:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
In the 'Nationalism and British Unionism' section, is it really entirely accurate to say that UKIP's support base is centred largely in England and mobilises English nationalism above all else? With Scotland, you have a point seeing that UKIP support is so low there, but (other than Douglas Carswell) the only place where UKIP have any elected officials at the moment is in the Welsh Assembly, so on that basis it seems outdated to describe them as an English-only party. I realise that complete objectivity is difficult, but to me the section focusses too much on one man (Richard Hayton) and his perception of UKIP as Anglocentric, ignoring the stark reality of Welsh Euroscepticism and strong UKIP support in the Southern valleys. 86.174.140.40 ( talk) 21:17, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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During the 2010–15 Parliament, two Conservative MPs defected to UKIP and were re-elected in subsequent by-elections. At the 2015 general election, UKIP retained one of these seats ( Clacton) and received over 30% of the vote in Boston & Skegness, South Thanet, Heywood & Middleton and Rochester and Strood.
Election year | # of total votes | % of overall vote | # of seats won | Outcome |
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1997 [1] | 105,722 ![]() |
0.3% ![]() |
0 / 650 ![]() |
No seats |
2001 [2] | 390,563 ![]() |
1.5% ![]() |
0 / 650 ![]() |
No seats |
2005 [3] | 603,298 ![]() |
2.2% ![]() |
0 / 646 ![]() |
No seats |
2010 [4] | 919,546 ![]() |
3.1% ![]() |
0 / 650 ![]() |
No seats |
2015 [5] | 3,881,099 ![]() |
12.6% ![]() |
1 / 650 ![]() |
Opposition |
Election year | # of total votes | % of overall vote | # of seats won | Rank |
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1994 [6] | 155,487 ![]() |
1% ![]() |
0 / 87
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8 ![]() |
1999 [7] | 696,057 ![]() |
6.7% ![]() |
3 / 87
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4 ![]() |
2004 [8] | 2,650,768 ![]() |
16.1% ![]() |
12 / 78
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3 ![]() |
2009 [9] | 2,498,226 ![]() |
16.6% ![]() |
13 / 72
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2 ![]() |
2014 [10] | 4,376,635 ![]() |
27.5% ![]() |
24 / 73
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1 ![]() |
Year | Percentage of vote (constituency) | Percentage of vote (regional) | Seats won (constituency) | Seats won (regional) | Seats won (total) | Outcome |
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1999 | 0.0% (N/A) | 0.0% (N/A) | 0 / 40 |
0 / 20 |
0 / 60 |
No seats |
2003 | 2.3% (19,795) | 3.5% (29,427) | 0 / 40 |
0 / 20 |
0 / 60 |
No seats |
2007 | 1.8% (18,047) | 4.0% (38,490) | 0 / 40 |
0 / 20 |
0 / 60 |
No seats |
2011 | 0.0% (N/A) | 4.6% (43,756) | 0 / 40 |
0 / 20 |
0 / 60 |
No seats |
2016 | 12.5% (127,0385) | 13.0% (132,138) | 0 / 40 |
7 / 20 |
7 / 60 |
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Carswell has quit UKIP. They now have 0 MPs in the commons. 82.1.22.116 ( talk) 11:51, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
The Voter Base section says, quoting a study by Ford and Goodwin, that "55% of UKIP supporters had left school aged 16 or under, with only 24% having attended university, making it clear that the party primarily appealed to the least educated in society." This conclusion ought to be noted as disputed. Analysis of the 2011 census shows that only 27% of the population aged 16-74 had a degree, implying that the figure of 24% of UKIP supporters having attended university is not far off the national average. See this link: [1] Any difference is likely to be explained by the age balance of UKIP supporters, since university participation rates have been rising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.231.29.20 ( talk) 11:22, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Shouldn't the history section cover the long-running feud within the party between Farage/Banks and Carswell? Bondegezou ( talk) 22:36, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Steve Crowther is now the interim leader after Paul Nuttall, not Peter Whittle Weburbia ( talk) 14:00, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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Should the "Political position" in the infobox be changed to "Right Wing to Far Right"?- Although previously there was not a consensus that UKIP contained far-right elements, I would suggest that is certainly the case now due to the ideological changes in the party following the loss of the European Union emphasis. For example, since the Brexit vote, the party's drift towards more anti-Islamic based positions in the past year is strong evidence of it, but more explicitly, the rise of Anne Marie Waters in the party and subsequent entryism, her likely successful leadership bid and her alliances with groups such as the EDL very much bring the party into "far-right" territory -- TF92 ( talk) 20:46, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
This is unacceptable. Lay of the PA's and discus content only.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41447568 100.15.117.207 ( talk) 15:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
I updated the logo. The former logo is public domain so won't be deleted in a hurry. It has obvious relevence to the party as it was used for so long, so I ask where should it be placed in the article? Anarcho-authoritarian ( talk) 13:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Pinging regular editor Midnightblueowl, please ping other regular editors you know of Anarcho-authoritarian ( talk) 13:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
On a related note, the party used in its first years a red, blue and yellow palette, and a logo with the British flag stylised like an eight-point compass. [20] [21] While colours and logos are hardly the most written-about aspect of any political party, there could be room in the article for a brief summary of such. Anarcho-authoritarian ( talk) 15:11, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
The current logo is very grainy, no transparent background, and displays very poorly on all displays other than smart devices. Anyone with a better image? (There was one earlier today that has an excellent image but it appears to have been removed or deleted.)
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Update councillor number to 269: http://www.opencouncildata.co.uk/ 92.232.242.16 ( talk) 20:43, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
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Sport and politics: How is Similarly, UKIP's 2017 manifesto pledged to declare 23 June British Independence Day and observe it annually as a
national holiday.
commentary? It's a statement of fact. It appears to be continuation of previous statements about other holidays they want to declare and doesn't appear undue.
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Update Councillor number to 248. 2A00:23C4:4B34:5A00:E881:6CD6:31BF:522D ( talk) 14:43, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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UKIP AM Mandy Jones will not sit with Assembly Group. Change Assembly Group number to 5. 2A00:23C4:4B34:5A00:E881:6CD6:31BF:522D ( talk) 14:43, 9 January 2018 (UTC) Source? Slatersteven ( talk) 14:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
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Change Welsh Assembly number to 5. Mandy Jones has been expelled from the Assembly Group. 94.173.179.46 ( talk) 20:06, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
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Change MEP number from 20 to 19. Jonathan Arnott has resigned. 94.173.179.46 ( talk) 17:30, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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Why isn't UKIP described as a "far right" party, like Britain First? ( 86.133.84.196 ( talk) 03:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC))
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Update Councillor number from 206 to 200. 2001:630:E4:4220:214B:1982:C06:6F2C ( talk) 19:57, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Mention that, like the Green Party, UKIP is opposed to HS2, on the ground that it is a pernicious project supported by bogus arguments. Seadowns ( talk) 11:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Are we sure they have 183 councillors? In March the figure was 198, and according to this they've just lost 123 in the local elections? Surely the figures need updating. This is Paul ( talk) 16:35, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
They won 176 seats in 2015, 58 in 2016, 1 seat in 2017 and 3 in 2018. Meaning they've won 238 seats over the four year local election cycle. Their total councillors might be lower than that now as a result of lost by-elections and defections, but I can't see how it could have gone as low as 126, as stated at the moment. 92.236.40.249 ( talk) 02:14, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
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Change number of MEPs from 19 to 17. MassiveNewOrderFan ( talk) 21:00, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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Change the number of MEPs from 18 to 17. (Jonathan Arnott and James Carver have resigned in recent months). MassiveNewOrderFan ( talk) 15:05, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
UKIP has seemingly abandoned it's new logo in favour of the old Pound one, incl on their official Facebook, Twitter accounts, website too I think. Should wikipedia reflect that? 86.133.239.192 ( talk) 23:50, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Here [1] Batten talks about the logo change and how it was the first "executive decision" he took as Interim Leader 2A02:C7D:16D3:E700:7471:3DE8:1516:C0F3 ( talk) 23:48, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
https://web.archive.org/web/20180619073614/https://twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP/status/1008965204296765440 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.171.41 ( talk) 07:42, 19 June 2018 (UTC)