Kurt Coleman said on Sargdub talk page:
I have thought about your comment, yes in some cases subsidiaries of companies warrant their own page, but only when they are significant in their own right and are unique from their parent. UKForex does exactly the same business as the parent company OzForex and the subsidiary has no unique or notable difference to the parent except for the localised name. The content such as history repeated information from the parent company which is already covered on the OZForex page and not specific to UKForex, and so I see no strong reason to have a separate page. A redirect is the most sensible solution unless you can identify a major differences that makes UKForex unique and notable in its own right as I can find no evidence of that.
Wikipedia has some specific guidelines on Conflict of Interest and as an employee of a company you may have a conflict on this page. Please review the guideline WP:COS which may help you understand how to deal with this conflict. I appreciate that you want to look after your brand but Wikipedia is not an advertising media or somewhere to promote a business (see WP:NOTPROMOTION) and so you need to understand that a page is for information that is supported by third party references. I have added a bit of regulatory information about the UK subsidiary to the OzForex page which hopefully covers the unique information about the subsidiary and have moved the page back to a redirect. Sargdub ( talk) 03:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Hope you are well.
Unfortunately I disagree with your comments that UKForex is "not unique and notable” and also the resulting redirect you have again added. We are indeed unique and notable for the following reasons:
• FCA-regulated: UKForex Limited hold a Financial Conduct Authority license (FRN: 521566) in the UK for the provision of payment services. We also hold a certificate of registration for Money Laundering regulation (Registration number: 12219180) and are covered by regulations administered by HM Revenue & Customs.
• Physical presence: we have an office in the City of London: 85 Gracechurch St, London EC3V 0AA.
• Independent brand/ identity: yes, we are part of the OzForex Group but we are an independent brand that has its own history, business story, achievements and challenges as a business. UKForex gets plenty of coverage in the media. Below are some recent examples. I can supply more if you need.
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/european-inflation-to-stay-weak-edwards-3yLj4rUdTWKhNYsw1sWCCQ.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10601332/UK-economy-grows-0.7pc-in-fourth-quarter-economist-reaction.html http://www.forexcrunch.com/markets-fidgety-with-ukraine-situation-up-in-the-air/ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ftse-100-falls-ahead-of-uk-gdp-data-2014-02-26 http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ukforex-sees-pound-in-short-term-push-toward-1-65-BFJIauS~TuCvqT2LL7xLvw.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/kostaperic/2012/06/25/faster-better-cheaper-ways-to-transfer-money-chapter-2-ukforex/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10601332/UK-economy-grows-0.7pc-in-fourth-quarter-economist-reaction.html
UKForex also have some large partners that promote our service. The FT is a good example of this: http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Currencies - (UKForex hosts the currency converter on their site).
• Completely different market: the UK is the largest centre for foreign exchange trading in the world, making our market the most competitive. This makes UKForex very different to OzForex – notably the challenges we face to remain competitive within the tough UK environment. Every week there are new FX providers coming into the UK market and the fact that UKForex continues to grow and remain one of the UK’s largest non-bank providers is testament that we are unique and notable.
Hope the above gives you some insight into UKForex and how we are unique and notable. All of our customers in the UK know us as UKForex. We'd very much like our page back so can you please reconsider your redirect?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Regards Kurt — Preceding unsigned comment added by KurtUKForex ( talk • contribs) 18:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should the page be redirected to Ozforex, or have it's own article. KurtUKForex ( talk) 15:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)"
Kurt Coleman said on Sargdub talk page:
I have thought about your comment, yes in some cases subsidiaries of companies warrant their own page, but only when they are significant in their own right and are unique from their parent. UKForex does exactly the same business as the parent company OzForex and the subsidiary has no unique or notable difference to the parent except for the localised name. The content such as history repeated information from the parent company which is already covered on the OZForex page and not specific to UKForex, and so I see no strong reason to have a separate page. A redirect is the most sensible solution unless you can identify a major differences that makes UKForex unique and notable in its own right as I can find no evidence of that.
Wikipedia has some specific guidelines on Conflict of Interest and as an employee of a company you may have a conflict on this page. Please review the guideline WP:COS which may help you understand how to deal with this conflict. I appreciate that you want to look after your brand but Wikipedia is not an advertising media or somewhere to promote a business (see WP:NOTPROMOTION) and so you need to understand that a page is for information that is supported by third party references. I have added a bit of regulatory information about the UK subsidiary to the OzForex page which hopefully covers the unique information about the subsidiary and have moved the page back to a redirect. Sargdub ( talk) 03:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Hope you are well.
Unfortunately I disagree with your comments that UKForex is "not unique and notable” and also the resulting redirect you have again added. We are indeed unique and notable for the following reasons:
• FCA-regulated: UKForex Limited hold a Financial Conduct Authority license (FRN: 521566) in the UK for the provision of payment services. We also hold a certificate of registration for Money Laundering regulation (Registration number: 12219180) and are covered by regulations administered by HM Revenue & Customs.
• Physical presence: we have an office in the City of London: 85 Gracechurch St, London EC3V 0AA.
• Independent brand/ identity: yes, we are part of the OzForex Group but we are an independent brand that has its own history, business story, achievements and challenges as a business. UKForex gets plenty of coverage in the media. Below are some recent examples. I can supply more if you need.
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/european-inflation-to-stay-weak-edwards-3yLj4rUdTWKhNYsw1sWCCQ.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10601332/UK-economy-grows-0.7pc-in-fourth-quarter-economist-reaction.html http://www.forexcrunch.com/markets-fidgety-with-ukraine-situation-up-in-the-air/ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ftse-100-falls-ahead-of-uk-gdp-data-2014-02-26 http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ukforex-sees-pound-in-short-term-push-toward-1-65-BFJIauS~TuCvqT2LL7xLvw.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/kostaperic/2012/06/25/faster-better-cheaper-ways-to-transfer-money-chapter-2-ukforex/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10601332/UK-economy-grows-0.7pc-in-fourth-quarter-economist-reaction.html
UKForex also have some large partners that promote our service. The FT is a good example of this: http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Currencies - (UKForex hosts the currency converter on their site).
• Completely different market: the UK is the largest centre for foreign exchange trading in the world, making our market the most competitive. This makes UKForex very different to OzForex – notably the challenges we face to remain competitive within the tough UK environment. Every week there are new FX providers coming into the UK market and the fact that UKForex continues to grow and remain one of the UK’s largest non-bank providers is testament that we are unique and notable.
Hope the above gives you some insight into UKForex and how we are unique and notable. All of our customers in the UK know us as UKForex. We'd very much like our page back so can you please reconsider your redirect?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Regards Kurt — Preceding unsigned comment added by KurtUKForex ( talk • contribs) 18:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should the page be redirected to Ozforex, or have it's own article. KurtUKForex ( talk) 15:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)"