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Quick question: The 23 man squad for France doesn't match up with the link, and there are only two GKs in the wiki list. Am I missing something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OuterElysium ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
both players are actually on loan from Leicester City, should this be the club listed given that the English & German seasons are over? Jimmy Skitz's Answer Machine 10:16, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Change Granit Xhaka (Switzerland) club to Arsenal.
Kingjxmes ( talk) 13:24, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Let discuss the player order. Currently they are being ordered by number, but should we not order by position instead? Qed237 (talk) 16:23, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hi there. Auden McGeady of Ireland and Shani Tarashaj of Switzerland are both players of Everton F.C. Kindly amend the info accordingly. Thank you.
222.167.74.128 ( talk) 17:14, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't know about all the squads, but the caps and goals for the German squad are incorrect. The numbers after the last game against Slovakia are not yet included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.100.229.12 ( talk) 19:37, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Slovakia doesn't added to the list at the bottom. You may add it too, it doesn't matter for me. 88.235.191.193 ( talk) 23:35, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
We've probably discussed this before on previous squad articles, but I don't see why we need to remove mentions of if a team named a preliminary squad/when that was/who they eventually dropped (provided it's only a few names). I think this adds to the article and is a relatively small amount of prose. HornetMike ( talk) 09:35, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, I suggest we use uefa.com/uefaeuro as the only reliable source of players' clubs, to solve some confusing cases like "on-loan" or "just signed" players. Most recently, there have been issues about Ukraine's Bohdan Butko and Yevhen Seleznyov. Now, uefa.com declares Butko playing for Amkar Perm ("on loan from Shakhtar" not mentioned), and Seleznyov playing for Kuban ("just signed by Shakhtar" does not count), so we keep it. Is this OK? Centaur271188 ( talk) 17:31, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Centaur271188: You have not found any consensus to change from the current practise used in other tournaments and previous versions of this tournament, so please stop your disruptive editing and find consensus. The information in the lead is clear and by adding other clubs you make the article incorrect, saying one thing in the lead and displaying an other for the players. Qed237 (talk) 11:23, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Brudder Andrusha: @ Centaur271188: @ Joseph2302: @ Number 57: @ PeeJay2K3: @ Qed237: Am I the only person to think this "The club listed is the club for which the player last played a competitive match prior to the tournament" can give you really "weird" results? Let's say a player moves permanently from club A to club B in the summer of 2015, yet he never plays a competitive match for club B during the whole 2015–16 season (maybe he is a youth player, a reserve goalkeeper, or just injured for the season but recovered in time for the tournament a la Jack Wilshire). So if this criteria is applied, we have to list him as a club A player, which would be extremely contradictory to what almost all people consider him as. Chanheigeorge ( talk) 14:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
This benign false policy which is being enforced continues to lead WP astray with incorrect information and discrepancies. Furthermore, tables in this section dealing with player representation are not for the last played club but to the club that players is signed with and registered. National team squads in National Teams articles make this article inconsistent with many of those articles and should be corrected and if not then brought to the WP:Administration. One of the main core content policies which this group should adhere to is WP:V and when referenced information which detail accurately in such articles are removed then the basis of inclusion is denied then future desire to contribute is diminished.
Again. Notations are used for clarity. References are given for Verifiability. Similar notes are made in other UEFA competitions. Brudder Andrusha ( talk) 18:00, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
No. | Pos. | Player | Date of birth (age) | Caps | Goals | Club |
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11 | FW | Yevhen Seleznyov | 20 July 1985 (aged 30) | 50 | 11 |
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@ SLBedit: Seleznyov is not representing Kuban Krasnodar, while that information is incorrectly being aggregated in the Player representation section of the article. The baseline for inclusion is being challenged and is worthy of getting WP:Administration involved. Brudder Andrusha ( talk) 21:01, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the Swansea and Cardiff flags be changed to England with a footnote? They do not represent the Welsh FA in UEFA competitions. They represent the English FA. There is precedent for this in the 2013-14 UEFA Europa League article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.87.40.1 ( talk) 00:25, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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Shani Tarashaj is a player of Everton not Grasshoppers. Please amend it. Thanks.
220.241.108.120 ( talk) 14:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Monaco (French league) should be added in the "by club nationality" section like Wales (English league), Liechtenstein (Swiss league) and Canada (US league).
Change him to Artur Yusupov ( /info/en/?search=Artur_Rimovich_Yusupov) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.41.20.10 ( talk) 09:05, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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In the Northern Ireland squad list, change the club assigned to Chris Baird. He plays for Derby County, not Fulham! See http://www.dcfc.co.uk/team/player-profile/ DazAtt ( talk) 20:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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In response to SLBEdit refusing to update the team details for Chris Baird, from Fulham to Derby County. Chris Baird is not a Fulham player! He was on loan to Fulham from Derby County during the 2015/16 season (from February to May). He was recalled back to Derby County, from his loan, on 2nd May 2016 - http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/baird-to-return-from-fulham-loan-3091954.aspx His last Game for Derby County was on 14th May 2016 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36238771
His details should be updated. The information on this page is INCORRECT! DazAtt ( talk) 14:00, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Can I please ask anyone who sees this note to pick a team and add the {{ sortname}} template to all its players' names? I've done it for France and Romania, and Dale Arnett ( talk · contribs) did Sweden earlier, so that just leaves 21. I'm going to do Wales later, so can you all pick a team or two to do so we can finally get this article working properly? – Pee Jay 17:19, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
name
, firstname
, lastname
and sortname
. You'd never use all of them at the same time of course. If only name
is present, nothing new happens. If name
and sortname
are present, it obviously sorts by sortname
. If only firstname
and lastname
are present, it is sorted by lastname, firstname
, and the name is constructed as firstname lastname
. In any other combination, sortname
always takes precedence over anything else if it is present, and so does name
. Deal?firstname
and lastname
, and for Iceland perhaps you'd rather just use name
and sortname
. –
Sygmoral (
talk)
18:16, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
sortname
parameter to the relevant templates. This does not mean that the current templates must be updated, but it can be used in the future. –
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talk)
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Quick question: The 23 man squad for France doesn't match up with the link, and there are only two GKs in the wiki list. Am I missing something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OuterElysium ( talk • contribs) 19:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
both players are actually on loan from Leicester City, should this be the club listed given that the English & German seasons are over? Jimmy Skitz's Answer Machine 10:16, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Change Granit Xhaka (Switzerland) club to Arsenal.
Kingjxmes ( talk) 13:24, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Let discuss the player order. Currently they are being ordered by number, but should we not order by position instead? Qed237 (talk) 16:23, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hi there. Auden McGeady of Ireland and Shani Tarashaj of Switzerland are both players of Everton F.C. Kindly amend the info accordingly. Thank you.
222.167.74.128 ( talk) 17:14, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't know about all the squads, but the caps and goals for the German squad are incorrect. The numbers after the last game against Slovakia are not yet included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.100.229.12 ( talk) 19:37, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Slovakia doesn't added to the list at the bottom. You may add it too, it doesn't matter for me. 88.235.191.193 ( talk) 23:35, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
We've probably discussed this before on previous squad articles, but I don't see why we need to remove mentions of if a team named a preliminary squad/when that was/who they eventually dropped (provided it's only a few names). I think this adds to the article and is a relatively small amount of prose. HornetMike ( talk) 09:35, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, I suggest we use uefa.com/uefaeuro as the only reliable source of players' clubs, to solve some confusing cases like "on-loan" or "just signed" players. Most recently, there have been issues about Ukraine's Bohdan Butko and Yevhen Seleznyov. Now, uefa.com declares Butko playing for Amkar Perm ("on loan from Shakhtar" not mentioned), and Seleznyov playing for Kuban ("just signed by Shakhtar" does not count), so we keep it. Is this OK? Centaur271188 ( talk) 17:31, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Centaur271188: You have not found any consensus to change from the current practise used in other tournaments and previous versions of this tournament, so please stop your disruptive editing and find consensus. The information in the lead is clear and by adding other clubs you make the article incorrect, saying one thing in the lead and displaying an other for the players. Qed237 (talk) 11:23, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Brudder Andrusha: @ Centaur271188: @ Joseph2302: @ Number 57: @ PeeJay2K3: @ Qed237: Am I the only person to think this "The club listed is the club for which the player last played a competitive match prior to the tournament" can give you really "weird" results? Let's say a player moves permanently from club A to club B in the summer of 2015, yet he never plays a competitive match for club B during the whole 2015–16 season (maybe he is a youth player, a reserve goalkeeper, or just injured for the season but recovered in time for the tournament a la Jack Wilshire). So if this criteria is applied, we have to list him as a club A player, which would be extremely contradictory to what almost all people consider him as. Chanheigeorge ( talk) 14:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
This benign false policy which is being enforced continues to lead WP astray with incorrect information and discrepancies. Furthermore, tables in this section dealing with player representation are not for the last played club but to the club that players is signed with and registered. National team squads in National Teams articles make this article inconsistent with many of those articles and should be corrected and if not then brought to the WP:Administration. One of the main core content policies which this group should adhere to is WP:V and when referenced information which detail accurately in such articles are removed then the basis of inclusion is denied then future desire to contribute is diminished.
Again. Notations are used for clarity. References are given for Verifiability. Similar notes are made in other UEFA competitions. Brudder Andrusha ( talk) 18:00, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
No. | Pos. | Player | Date of birth (age) | Caps | Goals | Club |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
11 | FW | Yevhen Seleznyov | 20 July 1985 (aged 30) | 50 | 11 |
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@ SLBedit: Seleznyov is not representing Kuban Krasnodar, while that information is incorrectly being aggregated in the Player representation section of the article. The baseline for inclusion is being challenged and is worthy of getting WP:Administration involved. Brudder Andrusha ( talk) 21:01, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Notes:
References
Shouldn't the Swansea and Cardiff flags be changed to England with a footnote? They do not represent the Welsh FA in UEFA competitions. They represent the English FA. There is precedent for this in the 2013-14 UEFA Europa League article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.87.40.1 ( talk) 00:25, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
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Shani Tarashaj is a player of Everton not Grasshoppers. Please amend it. Thanks.
220.241.108.120 ( talk) 14:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Monaco (French league) should be added in the "by club nationality" section like Wales (English league), Liechtenstein (Swiss league) and Canada (US league).
Change him to Artur Yusupov ( /info/en/?search=Artur_Rimovich_Yusupov) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.41.20.10 ( talk) 09:05, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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In the Northern Ireland squad list, change the club assigned to Chris Baird. He plays for Derby County, not Fulham! See http://www.dcfc.co.uk/team/player-profile/ DazAtt ( talk) 20:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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In response to SLBEdit refusing to update the team details for Chris Baird, from Fulham to Derby County. Chris Baird is not a Fulham player! He was on loan to Fulham from Derby County during the 2015/16 season (from February to May). He was recalled back to Derby County, from his loan, on 2nd May 2016 - http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/baird-to-return-from-fulham-loan-3091954.aspx His last Game for Derby County was on 14th May 2016 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36238771
His details should be updated. The information on this page is INCORRECT! DazAtt ( talk) 14:00, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Can I please ask anyone who sees this note to pick a team and add the {{ sortname}} template to all its players' names? I've done it for France and Romania, and Dale Arnett ( talk · contribs) did Sweden earlier, so that just leaves 21. I'm going to do Wales later, so can you all pick a team or two to do so we can finally get this article working properly? – Pee Jay 17:19, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
name
, firstname
, lastname
and sortname
. You'd never use all of them at the same time of course. If only name
is present, nothing new happens. If name
and sortname
are present, it obviously sorts by sortname
. If only firstname
and lastname
are present, it is sorted by lastname, firstname
, and the name is constructed as firstname lastname
. In any other combination, sortname
always takes precedence over anything else if it is present, and so does name
. Deal?firstname
and lastname
, and for Iceland perhaps you'd rather just use name
and sortname
. –
Sygmoral (
talk)
18:16, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
sortname
parameter to the relevant templates. This does not mean that the current templates must be updated, but it can be used in the future. –
Sygmoral (
talk)
13:14, 1 July 2016 (UTC)