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How were the teams ordered? Kingjeff 01:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we order the qualifying stage by each geographical area as opposed to an overall area. Kingjeff 20:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Champions League article is listed by country, it looks a lot better. Mjefm 17:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
What is Spartak Moscow doing here? They're qualified for the Champions League, not the UEFA Cup. All SMiles 16:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't know what happened of Partizan, could someone explain it easily? KyleR Giggs 08:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
They appealed the decision against them. The final decision is set for August 16. Kingjeff 12:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I think it needs to be clear which teams have won on away goals and NEEDS to be stated which teams won on penalties. Just having (a) or (p) next to the overall result does not say which teams progress. OK, you can work out who goes through on away goal rule, but it not clear for teams progressing on penalties -- Fridge46 18:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Even though the winning club is bolded? Kingjeff 20:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
AFAIK 80 clubs will be playing first round on the knock-out basis and the remaining 40 will form eight groups with five teams each. 84.28.167.70 16:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)LeftMaestro
2 UEFA has expelled Partizan from UEFA Cup 2007-08 due to crowd trouble at their away tie in Mostar, which forced the match to be interrupted for 10 minutes. UEFA ajudged travelling Partizan fans to have been the culprits of the trouble. [1], but Partizan are allowed to play the return leg while appeal is undergoing. [2] However, Partizan's appeal was rejected so Zrinjski Mostar qualified. [3]
Regroup it please. KyleR Giggs 18:42, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
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Why are they in the UEFA Cup if they were relegated from the SPL. The 3rd place team from the SPL plays in the UEFA Cup. 69.121.147.208 22:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Are they a cup winner or cup finalist from last season? Kingjeff 23:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
They will be the last runners up to participate in the Uefa Cup from Scotland as the Scottish FA will in future award this place (if the winners have already qualified for Europe) to the next highest placed team in the Premier League following the dissapoiting performances of The Pars this year, Gretna last year and other SFA Cup runners up in years gone by. Statto74 11:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure? It may not be under their jurisdiction to do this. Kingjeff 16:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
If the winner of the domestic cup qualifies for the UEFA Champions League, the domestic cup runner-up may qualify for the UEFA Cup.
I suggest hiliting the winners in light green or something. It stands up better than the bold lettering. Juve2000 23:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
can any team stands against Bayern Munich in this tournament ?-- Max Mayr 08:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
There is country protection up until a certain point. So, they can't face Bayer Leverkusen, Hamburg or FC Nürnberg in the Group Stage. Kingjeff 04:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I think his point was they are favourites, can anybody compete with them? Statto74 10:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The UEFA Cup has always been a hard comp to win as essentially the clubs have under performed the year before, as Bayern have here, also they have spent very heavily to make sure they don't fail to qualify for the Champions League the next season. Statto74 13:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Why is the number rounded? On soccernet and bbc.co.uk it says it's 10,000 on here it says 8,000. Is there no source for the correct attendance? Govvy 13:24, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I understand why Aheyfromhome removed the explanation about the thick green lines - I can't see them either. I was going to remove that explanation myself once, but I saw the source code and understood that they should be there. They show up fine on Opera, but Internet Explorer, the browser I usually use, doesn't show them for some reason... Artyom ( talk • contribs) 08:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The name of the club in the template {{ UEFA Cup 2007-08}}. It should be Crvena Zvezda according to notable English language news media and the official UEFA competition site.
Thanks. // laughing man 02:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
What's the common name in english? This is the standard. Bayern Muenchen are called Bayern Munich in english, Sporting club of Portugal are called Sporting Lisbon, Eintracht Frankfurt are called Eintracht Frankfurt. In this case, I think it's Red Star Belgrade. Kingjeff ( talk) 21:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Google search test:
// laughing man 23:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
The link to uefa.com doesnt show any details of the tournaments leading scorers. I cant find any details of leading scorers in the uefa cup on the uefa site. so where did whoever created the leading scorers table get the info from? and how can we update it? Willy turner ( talk) 22:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is Sevilla FC, although they have won the UEFA Cup 2006-07, totally absent form the UEFA Cup 2007-08, and its qualification rounds? -- 88.78.228.207 ( talk) 21:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
In the Round of 16 table, do people think it is better to have Club X/Club Y or Winner Match Z? Personally, I think Winner Match Z is better as it creates a bit less clutter in the table. – Pee Jay 23:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Please discuss the first round here. Someone made it as a redirect page - well, as I said, First Round is compolsory for every teams and it is not included into qualifying rounds. Raymond Giggs 16:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
So are we not having current scores in italics on the table? Whocantucan 14:00, 21 February 2008
Anyone would like to work on Template:Round32-UEFACupformat? Raymond Giggs 10:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
The brackets are currently incorrect. The Munich-Getafe winner plays the Leverkusen-Zenit winner next round. The semis are set up wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.125.244 ( talk) 19:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The UEFA Cup began in 1971-72 season, it was a new tournament organised by UEFA. It was based on the format of the later years of the Fairs Cup and the latter is obviously considered its predecessor, but it is not the same tournament - while many people assume they are the same tournament simply under a different name they are not, according to UEFA themselves. The Fairs Cup was endorsed but not organised by UEFA and is not even considered an official European tournament by them, let alone their own UEFA Cup under a different name. UEFA even assert that the Fairs Cup should not be included in clubs honours lists as part of their European record. UEFA's attitude towards this can be read about here [1]. While its reasonable to see the Fairs Cup as a forerunner of the UEFA Cup and you can personally consider them to be essentially one and the same competition if you like, it is UEFA who decide the official status of the competitions and they certainly would not agree that the Fairs Cup years are part of their UEFA Cup competition or that Newcastle United and Ferencvaros have won the UEFA Cup (before it even existed!). This is exactly what is stated on the main UEFA Cup article on here and just about everywhere else relevant on Wiki so I don't see why this page is any different. Given that UEFA won't even allow these clubs to claim they have won a major European honour due to their Fairs Cup wins, there is no way we should be trying to make out in the opening paragraph that there have been 50 editions of the UEFA Cup rather than 37 when the organisers themselves say otherwise. It just makes us look silly to any knowledgable readers. MarkB79 ( talk) 00:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I came up with an idea of having an inter-wiki project for Champions League, UEFA Cup and UEFA Intertoto Cup. The idea is we can have match reports from Wikinews and use them on Wikipedia article for 2008-09 Champions League, 2008-09 UEFA Cup and 2008 UEFA Intertoto Cup. There should be no sourcing issues since there is a requirement of 2 sources per match report.
There will be 213 matches for Champions League, 359 UEFA Cup matches, 78 Intertoto Cup matches for a total of 650 matches. Therefore, there will be a number of people needed to do this. If you're interested or have any questions or comments, you can ask them here or if you would like to sign-up, you can go here. Don't write how this is too big or a bad idea. This is to survey to see how viable this is. However, if you have some constructive comment or question, then feel free to add. Kingjeff ( talk) 21:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
For some reason the official UEFA site started counting the goals scored in qualifying stages for the top goalscorers. Before, only the goals from the First Round onwards were counted, as all teams participated in those stages already. I think it's unfair for the players of the bigger teams, as they start in the First Round, while some smaller teams play in the qualifying rounds, where they can also score goals. I'm not sure why UEFA changed its way of counting the goals, but I think that we should still exclude the goals scored in qualifying stage, because the goals in qualifying stages never count towards the top goalscorers statistics in any football competition. AR TYOM 18:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Guys, sorry, but we're not do decide what counts and what not. UEFA decided that all goals are counted? Editors on Wikipedia wont decide what counts and what not. I could say that not counting what the players scored in the early rounds is also not fair, but i wont, and i will simply say that wikipedians cant decide what is fair and what is not, and what UEFA decided is what will be here. You can call administrators and they will decide, or simply read the laws of Wikipedia. Shpakovich talk 22:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Only UEFA counts goals for UEFA Champions League and UEFA Cup. We, the editors of this page, maintain this page. If UEFA counts qualifying goals, then we count qualifying goals. Kingjeff ( talk) 00:13, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Here is a solution that may solve our problem. I was wondering if we could add the template stats that keep records of the first round proper and beyond along with all the stats from all the rounds including qualifying. Kingjeff ( talk) 00:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Guys, it's not a discussion. Neil, who is an administrator, clearly explained: "UEFA are the authority on this - if they say goals from the early round count, they count". Shpakovich ( talk) 10:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
The whole list was wrong. I fixed everything according to the web site. Shpakovich ( talk) 14:11, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
...UEFA eventually corrected the table, now the goals scored from First round onwards are counted, like before. AR TYOM 17:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
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How were the teams ordered? Kingjeff 01:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we order the qualifying stage by each geographical area as opposed to an overall area. Kingjeff 20:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Champions League article is listed by country, it looks a lot better. Mjefm 17:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
What is Spartak Moscow doing here? They're qualified for the Champions League, not the UEFA Cup. All SMiles 16:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't know what happened of Partizan, could someone explain it easily? KyleR Giggs 08:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
They appealed the decision against them. The final decision is set for August 16. Kingjeff 12:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I think it needs to be clear which teams have won on away goals and NEEDS to be stated which teams won on penalties. Just having (a) or (p) next to the overall result does not say which teams progress. OK, you can work out who goes through on away goal rule, but it not clear for teams progressing on penalties -- Fridge46 18:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Even though the winning club is bolded? Kingjeff 20:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
AFAIK 80 clubs will be playing first round on the knock-out basis and the remaining 40 will form eight groups with five teams each. 84.28.167.70 16:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)LeftMaestro
2 UEFA has expelled Partizan from UEFA Cup 2007-08 due to crowd trouble at their away tie in Mostar, which forced the match to be interrupted for 10 minutes. UEFA ajudged travelling Partizan fans to have been the culprits of the trouble. [1], but Partizan are allowed to play the return leg while appeal is undergoing. [2] However, Partizan's appeal was rejected so Zrinjski Mostar qualified. [3]
Regroup it please. KyleR Giggs 18:42, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
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Why are they in the UEFA Cup if they were relegated from the SPL. The 3rd place team from the SPL plays in the UEFA Cup. 69.121.147.208 22:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Are they a cup winner or cup finalist from last season? Kingjeff 23:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
They will be the last runners up to participate in the Uefa Cup from Scotland as the Scottish FA will in future award this place (if the winners have already qualified for Europe) to the next highest placed team in the Premier League following the dissapoiting performances of The Pars this year, Gretna last year and other SFA Cup runners up in years gone by. Statto74 11:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure? It may not be under their jurisdiction to do this. Kingjeff 16:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
If the winner of the domestic cup qualifies for the UEFA Champions League, the domestic cup runner-up may qualify for the UEFA Cup.
I suggest hiliting the winners in light green or something. It stands up better than the bold lettering. Juve2000 23:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
can any team stands against Bayern Munich in this tournament ?-- Max Mayr 08:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
There is country protection up until a certain point. So, they can't face Bayer Leverkusen, Hamburg or FC Nürnberg in the Group Stage. Kingjeff 04:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I think his point was they are favourites, can anybody compete with them? Statto74 10:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The UEFA Cup has always been a hard comp to win as essentially the clubs have under performed the year before, as Bayern have here, also they have spent very heavily to make sure they don't fail to qualify for the Champions League the next season. Statto74 13:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Why is the number rounded? On soccernet and bbc.co.uk it says it's 10,000 on here it says 8,000. Is there no source for the correct attendance? Govvy 13:24, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I understand why Aheyfromhome removed the explanation about the thick green lines - I can't see them either. I was going to remove that explanation myself once, but I saw the source code and understood that they should be there. They show up fine on Opera, but Internet Explorer, the browser I usually use, doesn't show them for some reason... Artyom ( talk • contribs) 08:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The name of the club in the template {{ UEFA Cup 2007-08}}. It should be Crvena Zvezda according to notable English language news media and the official UEFA competition site.
Thanks. // laughing man 02:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
What's the common name in english? This is the standard. Bayern Muenchen are called Bayern Munich in english, Sporting club of Portugal are called Sporting Lisbon, Eintracht Frankfurt are called Eintracht Frankfurt. In this case, I think it's Red Star Belgrade. Kingjeff ( talk) 21:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Google search test:
// laughing man 23:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
The link to uefa.com doesnt show any details of the tournaments leading scorers. I cant find any details of leading scorers in the uefa cup on the uefa site. so where did whoever created the leading scorers table get the info from? and how can we update it? Willy turner ( talk) 22:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is Sevilla FC, although they have won the UEFA Cup 2006-07, totally absent form the UEFA Cup 2007-08, and its qualification rounds? -- 88.78.228.207 ( talk) 21:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
In the Round of 16 table, do people think it is better to have Club X/Club Y or Winner Match Z? Personally, I think Winner Match Z is better as it creates a bit less clutter in the table. – Pee Jay 23:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Please discuss the first round here. Someone made it as a redirect page - well, as I said, First Round is compolsory for every teams and it is not included into qualifying rounds. Raymond Giggs 16:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
So are we not having current scores in italics on the table? Whocantucan 14:00, 21 February 2008
Anyone would like to work on Template:Round32-UEFACupformat? Raymond Giggs 10:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
The brackets are currently incorrect. The Munich-Getafe winner plays the Leverkusen-Zenit winner next round. The semis are set up wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.125.244 ( talk) 19:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The UEFA Cup began in 1971-72 season, it was a new tournament organised by UEFA. It was based on the format of the later years of the Fairs Cup and the latter is obviously considered its predecessor, but it is not the same tournament - while many people assume they are the same tournament simply under a different name they are not, according to UEFA themselves. The Fairs Cup was endorsed but not organised by UEFA and is not even considered an official European tournament by them, let alone their own UEFA Cup under a different name. UEFA even assert that the Fairs Cup should not be included in clubs honours lists as part of their European record. UEFA's attitude towards this can be read about here [1]. While its reasonable to see the Fairs Cup as a forerunner of the UEFA Cup and you can personally consider them to be essentially one and the same competition if you like, it is UEFA who decide the official status of the competitions and they certainly would not agree that the Fairs Cup years are part of their UEFA Cup competition or that Newcastle United and Ferencvaros have won the UEFA Cup (before it even existed!). This is exactly what is stated on the main UEFA Cup article on here and just about everywhere else relevant on Wiki so I don't see why this page is any different. Given that UEFA won't even allow these clubs to claim they have won a major European honour due to their Fairs Cup wins, there is no way we should be trying to make out in the opening paragraph that there have been 50 editions of the UEFA Cup rather than 37 when the organisers themselves say otherwise. It just makes us look silly to any knowledgable readers. MarkB79 ( talk) 00:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I came up with an idea of having an inter-wiki project for Champions League, UEFA Cup and UEFA Intertoto Cup. The idea is we can have match reports from Wikinews and use them on Wikipedia article for 2008-09 Champions League, 2008-09 UEFA Cup and 2008 UEFA Intertoto Cup. There should be no sourcing issues since there is a requirement of 2 sources per match report.
There will be 213 matches for Champions League, 359 UEFA Cup matches, 78 Intertoto Cup matches for a total of 650 matches. Therefore, there will be a number of people needed to do this. If you're interested or have any questions or comments, you can ask them here or if you would like to sign-up, you can go here. Don't write how this is too big or a bad idea. This is to survey to see how viable this is. However, if you have some constructive comment or question, then feel free to add. Kingjeff ( talk) 21:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
For some reason the official UEFA site started counting the goals scored in qualifying stages for the top goalscorers. Before, only the goals from the First Round onwards were counted, as all teams participated in those stages already. I think it's unfair for the players of the bigger teams, as they start in the First Round, while some smaller teams play in the qualifying rounds, where they can also score goals. I'm not sure why UEFA changed its way of counting the goals, but I think that we should still exclude the goals scored in qualifying stage, because the goals in qualifying stages never count towards the top goalscorers statistics in any football competition. AR TYOM 18:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Guys, sorry, but we're not do decide what counts and what not. UEFA decided that all goals are counted? Editors on Wikipedia wont decide what counts and what not. I could say that not counting what the players scored in the early rounds is also not fair, but i wont, and i will simply say that wikipedians cant decide what is fair and what is not, and what UEFA decided is what will be here. You can call administrators and they will decide, or simply read the laws of Wikipedia. Shpakovich talk 22:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Only UEFA counts goals for UEFA Champions League and UEFA Cup. We, the editors of this page, maintain this page. If UEFA counts qualifying goals, then we count qualifying goals. Kingjeff ( talk) 00:13, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Here is a solution that may solve our problem. I was wondering if we could add the template stats that keep records of the first round proper and beyond along with all the stats from all the rounds including qualifying. Kingjeff ( talk) 00:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Guys, it's not a discussion. Neil, who is an administrator, clearly explained: "UEFA are the authority on this - if they say goals from the early round count, they count". Shpakovich ( talk) 10:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
The whole list was wrong. I fixed everything according to the web site. Shpakovich ( talk) 14:11, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
...UEFA eventually corrected the table, now the goals scored from First round onwards are counted, like before. AR TYOM 17:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
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