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I found it a bit odd that the cause of the Taser Incident was the a student was shocked by a taser. That seems circular/redundant. Shouldn't the cause be that he refused to show identification and was allegedly defiant of the police? StatsJunkie ( talk) 18:51, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
71.232.103.200 placed an {{update}} tag. I agree with its placement, but I'm not sure how to fix it. I have been periodically checking for news coverage of the lawsuit, but have found nothing. Flatscan ( talk) 01:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
71.56.118.64 consolidated/removed 3 subsections of Incident. I will undo the edits and discuss here.
Flatscan ( talk) 02:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I have not read the archives and appreciate the direction. I don't know what relevance the information in the "student" section has with regards to the article. In fact, i think that some of the info is ideal for the lead section as it is not worthy of its' own section. I tried to extract the one piece - the religious affiliation - i felt was significant and relevant. What he studies or studied seems totally irrelevant and to me - his age is somewhat trivial. That said, noting in the lead that he was 23 at the time wouldn't hurt. I cannot remember where to find it - but there is some advice on wiki that talks about using terms that become dated. The student section showed how this is problematic AND how to fix it at the same time. Saying he "is a fourth-year student" is bad. Saying he was 23 at the time is good. I would say a 23-year-old fourth-year student at the time. The fact that he is of Iranian decent had already been established by the lead. I just can't see how having a section consisting of one sentence benefits the article.
There are some serious voice/tense issues with that section. I think the officers section is out of place. It is clear that the information is relevant and important to the article, but that section does not tie together very well. As an unaware passerby of sorts - how does duren's history speak specifically to the incident? Also, the section is titled officers but it really is only about one of the officers. Perhaps titling it "Officer controversy" (or something of that nature) would be beneficial. I would introduce all of the involved officers and then focus on duren.
As for the # of tasers issue - I am not sure why it is important. I read the content, but I can't figure out why its' in there. Not to sound insensitive, but does it matter if he was tasered 5 times or 3 times? I could see some relevance if there was a greater discrepancy (like 10 times versus 2 times) but as it stands now - it just appears to be an inconsequential fact that is disputed. Again - i'm not sure what the meaning is and if you can enlighten me (and the other readers) - i'm all for it. I do like the sentence you added. 71.56.118.64 ( talk) 08:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
I added a {{Citation needed}} tag on the settlement amount. The cited UCLA release does not give the amount. The best source I found is a Los Angeles Times blog, with which I'm not entirely comfortable. A reader may notice that its background is closely paraphrased from this WP article. Flatscan ( talk) 04:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Not really sure what the standard procedure is, but half of the links in the references section come back with errors. Do we just remove the links? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.92.184.82 ( talk) 23:25, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
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I found it a bit odd that the cause of the Taser Incident was the a student was shocked by a taser. That seems circular/redundant. Shouldn't the cause be that he refused to show identification and was allegedly defiant of the police? StatsJunkie ( talk) 18:51, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
71.232.103.200 placed an {{update}} tag. I agree with its placement, but I'm not sure how to fix it. I have been periodically checking for news coverage of the lawsuit, but have found nothing. Flatscan ( talk) 01:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
71.56.118.64 consolidated/removed 3 subsections of Incident. I will undo the edits and discuss here.
Flatscan ( talk) 02:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
I have not read the archives and appreciate the direction. I don't know what relevance the information in the "student" section has with regards to the article. In fact, i think that some of the info is ideal for the lead section as it is not worthy of its' own section. I tried to extract the one piece - the religious affiliation - i felt was significant and relevant. What he studies or studied seems totally irrelevant and to me - his age is somewhat trivial. That said, noting in the lead that he was 23 at the time wouldn't hurt. I cannot remember where to find it - but there is some advice on wiki that talks about using terms that become dated. The student section showed how this is problematic AND how to fix it at the same time. Saying he "is a fourth-year student" is bad. Saying he was 23 at the time is good. I would say a 23-year-old fourth-year student at the time. The fact that he is of Iranian decent had already been established by the lead. I just can't see how having a section consisting of one sentence benefits the article.
There are some serious voice/tense issues with that section. I think the officers section is out of place. It is clear that the information is relevant and important to the article, but that section does not tie together very well. As an unaware passerby of sorts - how does duren's history speak specifically to the incident? Also, the section is titled officers but it really is only about one of the officers. Perhaps titling it "Officer controversy" (or something of that nature) would be beneficial. I would introduce all of the involved officers and then focus on duren.
As for the # of tasers issue - I am not sure why it is important. I read the content, but I can't figure out why its' in there. Not to sound insensitive, but does it matter if he was tasered 5 times or 3 times? I could see some relevance if there was a greater discrepancy (like 10 times versus 2 times) but as it stands now - it just appears to be an inconsequential fact that is disputed. Again - i'm not sure what the meaning is and if you can enlighten me (and the other readers) - i'm all for it. I do like the sentence you added. 71.56.118.64 ( talk) 08:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
I added a {{Citation needed}} tag on the settlement amount. The cited UCLA release does not give the amount. The best source I found is a Los Angeles Times blog, with which I'm not entirely comfortable. A reader may notice that its background is closely paraphrased from this WP article. Flatscan ( talk) 04:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Not really sure what the standard procedure is, but half of the links in the references section come back with errors. Do we just remove the links? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.92.184.82 ( talk) 23:25, 18 April 2010 (UTC)