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Why exactly is the accuracy of this article disputed it seems fine to me Gem 23:22 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
We have a vandal that mixes good edits with bad, apparently deliberately: it takes too much time to check all his edits, so we just delete the lot. He has been invited to discuss his behavior, but has so far not taken the opportunity.
The Anome
Full, long reading of it is at User_talk:Michael/ban. - Hephaestos 23:25 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
I've found some info on the band here http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll Gem 23:32 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
From my recollection of the band, the current contents of the article look accurate. -- Arwel 23:47 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Various factual errors, misremembered years, imagined titles ... the typical Michaelisms. see here. Koyaanis Qatsi 23:48 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Checked and corrected some info. Added guest members and corrected/added albums and singles
JorisJ
Their most successful single release is the cover of the Elvis Presley ballad "I Can't Help Falling In Love With You" which was intended to be the main title to the 1992 Sharon Stone movie "Sliver" and was a no.1 hit across Europe and in the U.S.A.
'Ali Campbell' redirects to the UB40 page, and I don't think this should be the case. Ali Campbell has released two solo albums (1995's 'Big Love' and 2007's 'Running Free'), as well as guested with brother Robin on Pato Banton's 1994 UK #1 'Baby Come Back'. As such he absolutely deserves an entry of his own. In fact, I find it rather hard to believe there isn't one already. Can we see if it can be resurrected? Tobycek 16:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I, too, was very surprised that there were not individual pages for at least some of the members of UB40. Its on my to-do-list.....unless someone beats me to it.-- Egghead06 16:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Just thought I should mention that on Sunday 6 May 2007, the British newspaper the Mail On Sunday gave away a free CD of UB40 in concert. There are 15 tracks on the CD featuring some of their greatest hits. These are:
Cheers 81.157.64.122 11:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
U2 has been together with the same lineup longer than UB40 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.236.98.15 ( talk) 06:40, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
This BBC article paints a rather less straightforward picture than the simple announcement of leaving that we have in the article as it stands. In particular, the band's spokesman rejects his comments about "intolerable" management. 86.143.48.55 ( talk) 17:44, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Is Norman Hassan's middle name really Lamont? Norman Lamont was a Tory MP. It could just be coincidence but in case it isn't I've removed it. Aynuk N. Ayli 08:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, his middle name really is Lamont, sometimes (mis)spelled Lamount. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JorisJ ( talk • contribs) 02:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UB40_discography Here it is. 89.243.185.217 ( talk) 19:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)JT
Unlike most bands, UB40 does not have a dedicated discography page or a distinction between Studio albums and Live albums. Will this be remedied, or stay as it currently is? LtGurnt ( talk) 09:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I see you have 70 million listed as the number of albums sold, and the reference provided for that statistic does not mention the number of singles they had in the UK charts. Here is a more comprehensive retrospective of their career, which puts their number of albums worldwide at over 120 million and their number of charted singles directly at 50 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/birmingham/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9129000/9129405.stm). Perhaps someone with the appropriate knowledge can update the article and the references. Willyfreddy ( talk) 15:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Whoever stated that Maxi Priest is the new lead singer is completely mistaken. Go to the band's official website: www.ub40.co.uk and check out the bulletin board. A couple of band members commonly post on the board and have stated that DUNCAN CAMPBELL, Ali and Robin's brother will be the new lead singer! People please get your facts straight before reporting erroneous material!
Sure, let's discuss it..i'll start a new discussion of it. I'll put some posts from the official UB40 message board, in which band members themselves have denounced Maxi as their lead singer...and i'll also give you some pictures from band rehearsals...which, surprise...do not include Maxi Priest :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.242.35.124 ( talk) 20:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
FOR THE FINAL TIME...MAXI PRIEST IS NOT (underline it, put an exclamation point after it) the lead singer of UB40! I have already edited this page THREE TIMES!!!. Whoever is saying that he is the new lead singer is somehow misinformed. But I personally have read messages posted by the band members themselves....here you can read this
http://www.ub40.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=88845&highlight=duncan+singer
read that page and look for Brian Travers (a UB40 member) comments on the matter.
I don't care how many references say that Maxi is the lead singer...when the BAND MEMBERS THEMSELVES HAVE DENOUNCED HIM as the lead singer! Please get your facts straight before re-editing this post!
The two new members are actually Duncan Campbell (vocals) and Tony Mullings (keyboards)
i will edit this page once again and if anyone reposts Maxi Priest as the lead singer again, i will be forced to report them as a page hijacker. - Matthew P
Sorry didn't mean to rant..it's just that some people will read anything and take it as true....just wanted it settled. Now worries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.242.35.124 ( talk) 22:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Egghead06, why exactly are you trying so bloody hard to obfuscate the truth about Maxi Priest not being a member of UB40? --
Foetusized (
talk)
13:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
He performed at 2010 Volksfest in Plymouth... i thaw it with my own eyees!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.14.101 ( talk) 06:58, 1 November 2011 (UTC) Yes he is still active, but i'd say he need to lay off the booze and fags and cut down on the saturated fats
I don't mean this in a "come on, work harder" sort of way, but, a band as big as UB40 (as the article even says in the lead) you'd think there would be lots of information in their respective pages. Their self-titled album doesn't even have a page and them which do are generally quite small, the UB40 page itself is quite small and the template is very messy.-- TangoTizerWolfstone ( talk) 23:55, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Only a comment to say that Robin used to work for British Leyland and found reggae guitar in his dinnertime , then left to go to a construction job .. This was not a good move as he was out of work a few months later. .. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.3.131 ( talk) 19:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Were the "blues parties" that UB40 went to really parties where they played the blues (as the links seem to suggest)? In 1990s Manchester a "blues" was a party which involved a lot of marijuana but no blues music, so maybe it had some specific meaning in 1970s Birmingham.
At the moment members old and new lay claim to being UB40. It is not for us to decide who has the right to use the name. This may end up in court. I have provided a reference to show that the old members of Ali Campbell plus will be recording as UB40 and thus are members of that group. There is nothing implied that they are working with the other claimants to the title.-- Egghead06 ( talk) 19:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
As I understand it, there are currently 2 groups claiming to be UB40, one including Ali Campbell, the other including Robin and Duncan Campbell.
Until the legalities of this are resolved, we need to explain both positions, without taking sides.
We have been here before, e.g.
Wishbone Ash, can we please avoid an edit war, with editors promoting "their" line-up, and just report the facts. Thanks -
Arjayay (
talk)
19:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
The addition of Category:English boy bands is unsupported. I have removed it. Being English and boys does not make you a Boy Band.-- Egghead06 ( talk) 08:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
The 'personnel' section needs to be labeled better. At present we have the two lineups of the band listed in separate columns but no titles; in addition to which the three members who have left the original band are tenured to their years of departure. This is in contradiction to what is suggested in the infobox - that all nine musicians who have passed through the ranks of the band are 'current members' of the band and that there are two lineups of UB40 in active service.
One of two things needs to be done: either we label the two lineups in the personnel section with the same names applied to them in the infobox, and edit the tenures' of Astro, Ali Campbell, and Mickey Virtue to indicate they are still members of the band, OR we need to consider the three departed members as 'former members' of the band, in which case the labels 'current' and 'former' should be added to the personnel section and Astro, Ali Campbell, and Mickey Virtue should be moved to the 'former members' section of the infobox.
Any edits to try and rectify this have thus far been almost immediately shot down by other editors who then shout 'vandalism'. Can we get this rectified soon? Kind regards, 109.145.126.16 ( talk) 00:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
I have recently added details of early musicians Yomi Babayemi and Jimmy Lynn to the page; and I wanted to justify them to those who may be unsure of their relevance in the grand scheme of things. My logic is twofold:
1. Firstly, all band members', regardless of importance, are generally considered to be important enough for inclusion on their respective band pages. Wikipedia guidelines stipulate that, particularly in the case of infoboxes, all members of a band should be featured and should be placed in chronological order.
2. The official status of Babayemi and Lynn is confirmed by the Campbell brothers' in their autobiography. There is no question as to the fact that they were UB40 members from the period of late 1978 to early 1979 and that they did as a matter of fact perform at UB40's first concert.
3. It would appear that the current members' of the original UB40 are adding weight to the fact that Astro and Mickey Virtue were not original members of the band (and that, by extension, Babayemi and Lynn were) in their litigation against the newly 'reformed' edition of UB40 which consists of Astro and Virtue along with Ali Campbell. As this detail seems to be of potentially crucial importance now (and will continue to be so in the history of UB40 regardless of the outcome of the legal battle), it would be wrong to omit the real facts from this page, however trivial they may seem to the casual fan.
Kind regards, 5.80.226.251 ( talk) 01:08, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
I have proposed merging the stub articles for each of these band members into the main UB40 article, as they are unlikely to grow further and are not notable for their work outside the group. I suggest keeping the discussion on their individual talk pages. Richard3120 ( talk) 18:00, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the collaberation with Madness was? There's no mention of it in the discography. -- Deke42 ( talk) 21:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Why exactly is the accuracy of this article disputed it seems fine to me Gem 23:22 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
We have a vandal that mixes good edits with bad, apparently deliberately: it takes too much time to check all his edits, so we just delete the lot. He has been invited to discuss his behavior, but has so far not taken the opportunity.
The Anome
Full, long reading of it is at User_talk:Michael/ban. - Hephaestos 23:25 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
I've found some info on the band here http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll Gem 23:32 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
From my recollection of the band, the current contents of the article look accurate. -- Arwel 23:47 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Various factual errors, misremembered years, imagined titles ... the typical Michaelisms. see here. Koyaanis Qatsi 23:48 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Checked and corrected some info. Added guest members and corrected/added albums and singles
JorisJ
Their most successful single release is the cover of the Elvis Presley ballad "I Can't Help Falling In Love With You" which was intended to be the main title to the 1992 Sharon Stone movie "Sliver" and was a no.1 hit across Europe and in the U.S.A.
'Ali Campbell' redirects to the UB40 page, and I don't think this should be the case. Ali Campbell has released two solo albums (1995's 'Big Love' and 2007's 'Running Free'), as well as guested with brother Robin on Pato Banton's 1994 UK #1 'Baby Come Back'. As such he absolutely deserves an entry of his own. In fact, I find it rather hard to believe there isn't one already. Can we see if it can be resurrected? Tobycek 16:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I, too, was very surprised that there were not individual pages for at least some of the members of UB40. Its on my to-do-list.....unless someone beats me to it.-- Egghead06 16:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Just thought I should mention that on Sunday 6 May 2007, the British newspaper the Mail On Sunday gave away a free CD of UB40 in concert. There are 15 tracks on the CD featuring some of their greatest hits. These are:
Cheers 81.157.64.122 11:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
U2 has been together with the same lineup longer than UB40 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.236.98.15 ( talk) 06:40, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
This BBC article paints a rather less straightforward picture than the simple announcement of leaving that we have in the article as it stands. In particular, the band's spokesman rejects his comments about "intolerable" management. 86.143.48.55 ( talk) 17:44, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Is Norman Hassan's middle name really Lamont? Norman Lamont was a Tory MP. It could just be coincidence but in case it isn't I've removed it. Aynuk N. Ayli 08:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, his middle name really is Lamont, sometimes (mis)spelled Lamount. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JorisJ ( talk • contribs) 02:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UB40_discography Here it is. 89.243.185.217 ( talk) 19:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)JT
Unlike most bands, UB40 does not have a dedicated discography page or a distinction between Studio albums and Live albums. Will this be remedied, or stay as it currently is? LtGurnt ( talk) 09:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I see you have 70 million listed as the number of albums sold, and the reference provided for that statistic does not mention the number of singles they had in the UK charts. Here is a more comprehensive retrospective of their career, which puts their number of albums worldwide at over 120 million and their number of charted singles directly at 50 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/birmingham/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9129000/9129405.stm). Perhaps someone with the appropriate knowledge can update the article and the references. Willyfreddy ( talk) 15:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Whoever stated that Maxi Priest is the new lead singer is completely mistaken. Go to the band's official website: www.ub40.co.uk and check out the bulletin board. A couple of band members commonly post on the board and have stated that DUNCAN CAMPBELL, Ali and Robin's brother will be the new lead singer! People please get your facts straight before reporting erroneous material!
Sure, let's discuss it..i'll start a new discussion of it. I'll put some posts from the official UB40 message board, in which band members themselves have denounced Maxi as their lead singer...and i'll also give you some pictures from band rehearsals...which, surprise...do not include Maxi Priest :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.242.35.124 ( talk) 20:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
FOR THE FINAL TIME...MAXI PRIEST IS NOT (underline it, put an exclamation point after it) the lead singer of UB40! I have already edited this page THREE TIMES!!!. Whoever is saying that he is the new lead singer is somehow misinformed. But I personally have read messages posted by the band members themselves....here you can read this
http://www.ub40.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=88845&highlight=duncan+singer
read that page and look for Brian Travers (a UB40 member) comments on the matter.
I don't care how many references say that Maxi is the lead singer...when the BAND MEMBERS THEMSELVES HAVE DENOUNCED HIM as the lead singer! Please get your facts straight before re-editing this post!
The two new members are actually Duncan Campbell (vocals) and Tony Mullings (keyboards)
i will edit this page once again and if anyone reposts Maxi Priest as the lead singer again, i will be forced to report them as a page hijacker. - Matthew P
Sorry didn't mean to rant..it's just that some people will read anything and take it as true....just wanted it settled. Now worries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.242.35.124 ( talk) 22:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Egghead06, why exactly are you trying so bloody hard to obfuscate the truth about Maxi Priest not being a member of UB40? --
Foetusized (
talk)
13:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
He performed at 2010 Volksfest in Plymouth... i thaw it with my own eyees!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.14.101 ( talk) 06:58, 1 November 2011 (UTC) Yes he is still active, but i'd say he need to lay off the booze and fags and cut down on the saturated fats
I don't mean this in a "come on, work harder" sort of way, but, a band as big as UB40 (as the article even says in the lead) you'd think there would be lots of information in their respective pages. Their self-titled album doesn't even have a page and them which do are generally quite small, the UB40 page itself is quite small and the template is very messy.-- TangoTizerWolfstone ( talk) 23:55, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Only a comment to say that Robin used to work for British Leyland and found reggae guitar in his dinnertime , then left to go to a construction job .. This was not a good move as he was out of work a few months later. .. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.3.131 ( talk) 19:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Were the "blues parties" that UB40 went to really parties where they played the blues (as the links seem to suggest)? In 1990s Manchester a "blues" was a party which involved a lot of marijuana but no blues music, so maybe it had some specific meaning in 1970s Birmingham.
At the moment members old and new lay claim to being UB40. It is not for us to decide who has the right to use the name. This may end up in court. I have provided a reference to show that the old members of Ali Campbell plus will be recording as UB40 and thus are members of that group. There is nothing implied that they are working with the other claimants to the title.-- Egghead06 ( talk) 19:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
As I understand it, there are currently 2 groups claiming to be UB40, one including Ali Campbell, the other including Robin and Duncan Campbell.
Until the legalities of this are resolved, we need to explain both positions, without taking sides.
We have been here before, e.g.
Wishbone Ash, can we please avoid an edit war, with editors promoting "their" line-up, and just report the facts. Thanks -
Arjayay (
talk)
19:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
The addition of Category:English boy bands is unsupported. I have removed it. Being English and boys does not make you a Boy Band.-- Egghead06 ( talk) 08:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
The 'personnel' section needs to be labeled better. At present we have the two lineups of the band listed in separate columns but no titles; in addition to which the three members who have left the original band are tenured to their years of departure. This is in contradiction to what is suggested in the infobox - that all nine musicians who have passed through the ranks of the band are 'current members' of the band and that there are two lineups of UB40 in active service.
One of two things needs to be done: either we label the two lineups in the personnel section with the same names applied to them in the infobox, and edit the tenures' of Astro, Ali Campbell, and Mickey Virtue to indicate they are still members of the band, OR we need to consider the three departed members as 'former members' of the band, in which case the labels 'current' and 'former' should be added to the personnel section and Astro, Ali Campbell, and Mickey Virtue should be moved to the 'former members' section of the infobox.
Any edits to try and rectify this have thus far been almost immediately shot down by other editors who then shout 'vandalism'. Can we get this rectified soon? Kind regards, 109.145.126.16 ( talk) 00:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
I have recently added details of early musicians Yomi Babayemi and Jimmy Lynn to the page; and I wanted to justify them to those who may be unsure of their relevance in the grand scheme of things. My logic is twofold:
1. Firstly, all band members', regardless of importance, are generally considered to be important enough for inclusion on their respective band pages. Wikipedia guidelines stipulate that, particularly in the case of infoboxes, all members of a band should be featured and should be placed in chronological order.
2. The official status of Babayemi and Lynn is confirmed by the Campbell brothers' in their autobiography. There is no question as to the fact that they were UB40 members from the period of late 1978 to early 1979 and that they did as a matter of fact perform at UB40's first concert.
3. It would appear that the current members' of the original UB40 are adding weight to the fact that Astro and Mickey Virtue were not original members of the band (and that, by extension, Babayemi and Lynn were) in their litigation against the newly 'reformed' edition of UB40 which consists of Astro and Virtue along with Ali Campbell. As this detail seems to be of potentially crucial importance now (and will continue to be so in the history of UB40 regardless of the outcome of the legal battle), it would be wrong to omit the real facts from this page, however trivial they may seem to the casual fan.
Kind regards, 5.80.226.251 ( talk) 01:08, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
I have proposed merging the stub articles for each of these band members into the main UB40 article, as they are unlikely to grow further and are not notable for their work outside the group. I suggest keeping the discussion on their individual talk pages. Richard3120 ( talk) 18:00, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the collaberation with Madness was? There's no mention of it in the discography. -- Deke42 ( talk) 21:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)