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Isn't the Watt Avenue exit in Sacramento or at least on the border? BTW, the reason I asked is because I once lived near there and remember the city limit sign being at Watt Avenue. Teak the Kiwi 02:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the city limit is on Watt Avenue for some distance. Try looking on a city map to verify the exact city limits of Sacramento Mm555 18:22, 9 September 2007
Information is from Sierra Crossing: First Roads to California and [1].
[2] shows several, concentrating on the Pony Express route.
Another source: [3]
-- NE2 19:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
-- NE2 10:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
There are some minor issues that I will go back and address myself instead of complicating matters through explanation. I have a two requests. First, WP:lead guidelines recommend that the intro be at least two paragraphs. Second, I think there needs to be a few sentences concerning the fact that the Sierra portion of the road is sometimes closed in the winter due to snow storms. (maybe I missed it in the text. If I did, please point it out to me.) Thanks. User:calbear22 ( talk) 21:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Everything appears to be in order. Good job. User:calbear22 ( talk) 17:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
FYI, I am making two corrections to this article. I don't think they are controversial, but you never know.
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Because why not? Kevon kevono ( talk) 21:55, 1 May 2016 (UTC) (What the hell is UTC?) 14:54 (PT)
I scrubbed through the various citations with an eye towards consistency, completion and clean up. Many of these citations were woefully lacking. There were books without publishers or publication locations, some without authors, and all without applicable ISBN or OCLC numbers. I tried to look everything up that I could on http://www.worldcat.org to get complete information. Most of the maps weren't in {{ cite map}} and didn't have a manually typed "[map]" indication. Authors weren't in last, first order. Almost all online sources have no access dates, or have a month and a year only. Some newspaper articles don't even have article titles or page numbers! (Reporter bylines are missing as well, but not every article in a paper gets a byline, so that's not as unpardonable as a missing article title.) Can someone with the access to the sources used please work on filling in the missing details? Can someone add access dates as appropriate? I've added some for things I looked up and radically overhauled, but there's work to be done at some point. Imzadi 1979 → 09:53, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
We need some better citations regarding the current status of this. This source was recently added:
The problem is that these 2015 dated plans do not explicitly state that the BUS 80/US 50 overlap is now completely off the books. Because when I look at these two other sources from Caltrans:
Thus, it appears that that they just decided to now have Bus 80 unsigned along US 50. Otherwise, they should have also updated either bridge log or the exit number list by now. We cannot have conflicting Caltrans sources, nor can we have a WP:SYN situation where there is a conclusion that is not explicitly stated by any of the sources. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 08:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
These previous responses do not seem to really completely address my concerns, so let me put it this way: Which should be the option:
Zzyzx11 ( talk) 15:54, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Does this webpage count as a reliable source for what happened to the US 50/BUS 80 overlap? Richard Hendricks ( talk) 21:57, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Does the current editions of the articles for US 50 and BUS 80 satisfy the current situation? We can demonstrate that Caltrans started to change the signs on the "former" US 50/BUS 80 overlap, but we cannot demonstrate that Caltrans finished the job (We can also demonstrate that no record of Caltrans submitting BUS 80 for AASHTO approval exists in the US Route Numbering Application Database with Meeting Minutes and Application Results). - Richard Hendricks ( talk) 20:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
I saw something on a morning traffic report in Sacramento that looked like this. Could this mean a de-fedding of the route, or the error of a kyron typist? knoodelhed ( talk) 02:53, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
The current content about the I-305 designation on here and on U.S. Route 50 in California seems to be inaccurate, particularly the western terminus of I-305. Given that Caltrans does not officially recognize the I-305 designation, I do not think we should rely on Caltrans bridge logs, exit lists and other Caltrans documents. Let's instead take a look at two of the FHWA sources:
The blue lines on the map indicating Interstate system routes show that the western terminus of I-305 should be at I-80 in West Sacramento, not I-5. And the distance from I-80 to SR 99 is 6 miles. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 08:10, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Recently I-305 shields were added to the infobox. I contend this is Undue Weight and inappropriate. Here's my rationale:
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Isn't the Watt Avenue exit in Sacramento or at least on the border? BTW, the reason I asked is because I once lived near there and remember the city limit sign being at Watt Avenue. Teak the Kiwi 02:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the city limit is on Watt Avenue for some distance. Try looking on a city map to verify the exact city limits of Sacramento Mm555 18:22, 9 September 2007
Information is from Sierra Crossing: First Roads to California and [1].
[2] shows several, concentrating on the Pony Express route.
Another source: [3]
-- NE2 19:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
-- NE2 10:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
There are some minor issues that I will go back and address myself instead of complicating matters through explanation. I have a two requests. First, WP:lead guidelines recommend that the intro be at least two paragraphs. Second, I think there needs to be a few sentences concerning the fact that the Sierra portion of the road is sometimes closed in the winter due to snow storms. (maybe I missed it in the text. If I did, please point it out to me.) Thanks. User:calbear22 ( talk) 21:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Everything appears to be in order. Good job. User:calbear22 ( talk) 17:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
FYI, I am making two corrections to this article. I don't think they are controversial, but you never know.
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Because why not? Kevon kevono ( talk) 21:55, 1 May 2016 (UTC) (What the hell is UTC?) 14:54 (PT)
I scrubbed through the various citations with an eye towards consistency, completion and clean up. Many of these citations were woefully lacking. There were books without publishers or publication locations, some without authors, and all without applicable ISBN or OCLC numbers. I tried to look everything up that I could on http://www.worldcat.org to get complete information. Most of the maps weren't in {{ cite map}} and didn't have a manually typed "[map]" indication. Authors weren't in last, first order. Almost all online sources have no access dates, or have a month and a year only. Some newspaper articles don't even have article titles or page numbers! (Reporter bylines are missing as well, but not every article in a paper gets a byline, so that's not as unpardonable as a missing article title.) Can someone with the access to the sources used please work on filling in the missing details? Can someone add access dates as appropriate? I've added some for things I looked up and radically overhauled, but there's work to be done at some point. Imzadi 1979 → 09:53, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
We need some better citations regarding the current status of this. This source was recently added:
The problem is that these 2015 dated plans do not explicitly state that the BUS 80/US 50 overlap is now completely off the books. Because when I look at these two other sources from Caltrans:
Thus, it appears that that they just decided to now have Bus 80 unsigned along US 50. Otherwise, they should have also updated either bridge log or the exit number list by now. We cannot have conflicting Caltrans sources, nor can we have a WP:SYN situation where there is a conclusion that is not explicitly stated by any of the sources. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 08:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
These previous responses do not seem to really completely address my concerns, so let me put it this way: Which should be the option:
Zzyzx11 ( talk) 15:54, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Does this webpage count as a reliable source for what happened to the US 50/BUS 80 overlap? Richard Hendricks ( talk) 21:57, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Does the current editions of the articles for US 50 and BUS 80 satisfy the current situation? We can demonstrate that Caltrans started to change the signs on the "former" US 50/BUS 80 overlap, but we cannot demonstrate that Caltrans finished the job (We can also demonstrate that no record of Caltrans submitting BUS 80 for AASHTO approval exists in the US Route Numbering Application Database with Meeting Minutes and Application Results). - Richard Hendricks ( talk) 20:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
I saw something on a morning traffic report in Sacramento that looked like this. Could this mean a de-fedding of the route, or the error of a kyron typist? knoodelhed ( talk) 02:53, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
The current content about the I-305 designation on here and on U.S. Route 50 in California seems to be inaccurate, particularly the western terminus of I-305. Given that Caltrans does not officially recognize the I-305 designation, I do not think we should rely on Caltrans bridge logs, exit lists and other Caltrans documents. Let's instead take a look at two of the FHWA sources:
The blue lines on the map indicating Interstate system routes show that the western terminus of I-305 should be at I-80 in West Sacramento, not I-5. And the distance from I-80 to SR 99 is 6 miles. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 08:10, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Recently I-305 shields were added to the infobox. I contend this is Undue Weight and inappropriate. Here's my rationale: