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The title of this article is wrong, it isn't the "U.S. Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement," it is simply "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eddief ( talk • contribs) 22:47, October 18, 2005 (UTC)
Is not the FBI the largest investigative arm of DHS? Why is ICE listed as such? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.195.123.29 ( talk) 20:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed a large part of the "hiring process" section which was copied partly from ice.gov, used the phrase "our country", etc. I was then disappointed to see phrases such as 'The motto of ICE, "Integrity, Courage, and Excellence," is represented by the approximately 15,000 people ICE employs'. The criticism section cites no sources and minimizes criticism using phrases such as "there are those who feel". Overall, the article appears to have a significant pro-ICE bias. Rhobite 05:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I do not think that this article can ever be balanced without a good section called "Criticism" -- the deaths in custody only hint at the larger problem of placing this force under DHS and not Justice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.12.203.124 ( talk) 15:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
The following text was removed from the last paragraph of section 6, Critisism because it appears to be non-encyclopedic and contains rhetorical discussions and personal opinion. Perhaps someone familiar with the legal position of Federal enforcement of Child Pornography laws as appliece to ICE can edit the passage into something that can be included in the article.
Child pornography seems to have little to do with customs and immigration, but the sensitivity of the subject allows ICE to make these arrests. The constitutionality of this role of ICE, and whether these investigations and arrests are within the department's jurisdiction, is not clear or explicit.
(The person that placed this criticism is obviously unfamiliar with child pornography investigations or is an advocate of child pornography him (or her) self. ICE indeed possesses the constitutional authority to enforce federal law relating to 1. All persons within the jurisdiction of the United States (including U.S. citizens and aliens) 2. Laws relating to the United States border. 3. Commerce. Remember, the "commerce clause" of the United States Constitution dictates (paraphrase) that Congress may enact laws relating to COMMERCE amongst and between the several states. Child pornography (like narcotics, weapons, humans, goods, etc.) is commerce that crosses state (and mostly) international borders. That is why ICE is charged with enforcing child pornography (and sex tourism) laws, however, unpopular you may think it to be. Furthermore, your statement that "...the sensitivity of the subject allows ICE to make these arrests" is a weasel word phrase based on your personal opinion. Since it isn't based on fact I does not belong in an article of encyclopedia quality. Additionally, due to my own ignorance, I don't know how to place this response to your criticism in the discussion section (where your criticism and my response belong) so perhaps someone more familiar with Wikipedia can.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TGC55 ( talk • contribs) 17:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC).-- TGC55 17:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC) (man! that bot is fast)
Hello:
I added a note to the section on Hiring that it does not have sources. I dispute the accuracy of this section because of some sources that I have seen in the past that morale was very low and that it is not a desireable place to work; people are using it as a last resort for a place of employment. -- Allyn 05:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I believe the edits by Bankbryan are fairly valid and I would like to make these recommendations:
Just some ideas. Thoughts?
Lasdlt ( talk) 20:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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--geddy76 19:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geddy76 ( talk • contribs)
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Please ensure all information is approved for public release Anathema 1001 ( talk) 02:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I found: http://www.ice.gov/doclib/foia/reports/detaineedeaths2003-present.pdf
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"City of Buffalo Child porn raid wrong, but no apology by feds
By Dan Herbeck NEWS STAFF REPORTER
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Why aren't the leaders (called assistant secretaries at least in the Bush Administration) of ICE mentioned here? What's about Michael J. Garcia, Julie Myers, John P. Torres (after whom the navigation per "succeeded by" stoped in 2008). Looking at Daniel Ragsdale or Thomas Homan, it seems that the Obama Administration has changed that post to a Director - but there's no information about that in this article. There should be a list of Directors (formerly Assistand secretaries) and an explanation when that position had been changed. -- SamWinchester000 ( talk) 00:52, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
There are mixed articles featuring Criminals that did and did not receive ICE detention. Can or can't ICE investigate?
No: (Mexican cartel) http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/crime/weld-district-court-judge-sentences-drug-dealer-with-cartel-connections-to-18-years-in-prison/
Yes: (Canadian Prostitute) http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/03/ice-detains-alix-tichelman-after-her-release-from-santa-cruz-jail/ Twillisjr ( talk) 00:58, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
How does SEVP, which is not mentioned in the article, fit into the structure of ICE? Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? 2601:642:C301:119A:C0DF:98E9:852F:6503 ( talk) 02:54, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
The SEVP Soft power program can potentially be understood through additional sources. Good luck! Twillisjr ( talk) 22:48, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
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The title of this article is wrong, it isn't the "U.S. Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement," it is simply "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eddief ( talk • contribs) 22:47, October 18, 2005 (UTC)
Is not the FBI the largest investigative arm of DHS? Why is ICE listed as such? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.195.123.29 ( talk) 20:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed a large part of the "hiring process" section which was copied partly from ice.gov, used the phrase "our country", etc. I was then disappointed to see phrases such as 'The motto of ICE, "Integrity, Courage, and Excellence," is represented by the approximately 15,000 people ICE employs'. The criticism section cites no sources and minimizes criticism using phrases such as "there are those who feel". Overall, the article appears to have a significant pro-ICE bias. Rhobite 05:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I do not think that this article can ever be balanced without a good section called "Criticism" -- the deaths in custody only hint at the larger problem of placing this force under DHS and not Justice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.12.203.124 ( talk) 15:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
The following text was removed from the last paragraph of section 6, Critisism because it appears to be non-encyclopedic and contains rhetorical discussions and personal opinion. Perhaps someone familiar with the legal position of Federal enforcement of Child Pornography laws as appliece to ICE can edit the passage into something that can be included in the article.
Child pornography seems to have little to do with customs and immigration, but the sensitivity of the subject allows ICE to make these arrests. The constitutionality of this role of ICE, and whether these investigations and arrests are within the department's jurisdiction, is not clear or explicit.
(The person that placed this criticism is obviously unfamiliar with child pornography investigations or is an advocate of child pornography him (or her) self. ICE indeed possesses the constitutional authority to enforce federal law relating to 1. All persons within the jurisdiction of the United States (including U.S. citizens and aliens) 2. Laws relating to the United States border. 3. Commerce. Remember, the "commerce clause" of the United States Constitution dictates (paraphrase) that Congress may enact laws relating to COMMERCE amongst and between the several states. Child pornography (like narcotics, weapons, humans, goods, etc.) is commerce that crosses state (and mostly) international borders. That is why ICE is charged with enforcing child pornography (and sex tourism) laws, however, unpopular you may think it to be. Furthermore, your statement that "...the sensitivity of the subject allows ICE to make these arrests" is a weasel word phrase based on your personal opinion. Since it isn't based on fact I does not belong in an article of encyclopedia quality. Additionally, due to my own ignorance, I don't know how to place this response to your criticism in the discussion section (where your criticism and my response belong) so perhaps someone more familiar with Wikipedia can.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TGC55 ( talk • contribs) 17:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC).-- TGC55 17:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC) (man! that bot is fast)
Hello:
I added a note to the section on Hiring that it does not have sources. I dispute the accuracy of this section because of some sources that I have seen in the past that morale was very low and that it is not a desireable place to work; people are using it as a last resort for a place of employment. -- Allyn 05:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I believe the edits by Bankbryan are fairly valid and I would like to make these recommendations:
Just some ideas. Thoughts?
Lasdlt ( talk) 20:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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(Apologies if this is formatted incorrectly. I am brand new to any aspect of editing on wikipedia.)
--geddy76 19:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geddy76 ( talk • contribs)
-- 222.67.213.98 ( talk) 03:05, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
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Please ensure all information is approved for public release Anathema 1001 ( talk) 02:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I found: http://www.ice.gov/doclib/foia/reports/detaineedeaths2003-present.pdf
WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
"City of Buffalo Child porn raid wrong, but no apology by feds
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Why aren't the leaders (called assistant secretaries at least in the Bush Administration) of ICE mentioned here? What's about Michael J. Garcia, Julie Myers, John P. Torres (after whom the navigation per "succeeded by" stoped in 2008). Looking at Daniel Ragsdale or Thomas Homan, it seems that the Obama Administration has changed that post to a Director - but there's no information about that in this article. There should be a list of Directors (formerly Assistand secretaries) and an explanation when that position had been changed. -- SamWinchester000 ( talk) 00:52, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
There are mixed articles featuring Criminals that did and did not receive ICE detention. Can or can't ICE investigate?
No: (Mexican cartel) http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/crime/weld-district-court-judge-sentences-drug-dealer-with-cartel-connections-to-18-years-in-prison/
Yes: (Canadian Prostitute) http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/03/ice-detains-alix-tichelman-after-her-release-from-santa-cruz-jail/ Twillisjr ( talk) 00:58, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
How does SEVP, which is not mentioned in the article, fit into the structure of ICE? Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? 2601:642:C301:119A:C0DF:98E9:852F:6503 ( talk) 02:54, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
The SEVP Soft power program can potentially be understood through additional sources. Good luck! Twillisjr ( talk) 22:48, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
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