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This thing should be finished first. However, it makes little sense to have a list of every tropical cyclone impacting the Philippines. To the article creator, you should consider making this similar to the Catastrophic hurricanes of Florida pages. Only the deadliest and costliest should be listed. Or, you could do it by decade, for example, and list every typhoon that cuased, let's say, 10 deaths in the Philippines and go into some detail. Hurricanehink 18:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I am changing baguio to bagyo. If the correct term is baguio , I need sources.-- Jondel 04:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Found it thanks to Jordz and just to clarify: Baguio is the Spanish spelling adopted for English.-- Jondel 01:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
The word baguio with the meaning as storm or typhoon is depracated even if it exists in the glossary of the American Metereological Society. I will make a note should the same issue come up again.-- Jondel 07:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
For future reference: (Using Baguio)
1. http://eob.gsfc.nasa.gov/Library/Hurricanes/ 2. http://www.bookrags.com/sciences/earthscience/tropical-cyclone-woes-02.html 3. http://members.tripod.com/~MitchellBrown/almanac/disasters_hurricanes.html 4. http://dmcengr.wisc.edu/courses/hazards/BB02-05.html 5. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/atmosphere/q0242.shtml 6. http://science.enotes.com/earth-science/tropical-cyclone 7. http://www.irinnews.org/webspecials/DR/Definitions.asp 8. http://webuccs.edu/geogenvs/ges100-online/Chapt7.doc
Chacor redirect this article to the related category earlier today. I've reverted that as an inappropriate cross-space redirect. Whilst this article currently reads as a highly incomplete list, it can be retasked into a potentially very useful article. If it is focussed on PAGASAs role in TYs, effects of typhoons in general in the Philippines, records and a few significant storms, as opposed to a long list of storms (which could be completed), this could be a potentially very useful article. In any case such a move should be discussed first, I see no reason for such a contraversial move.-- Nilfanion ( talk) 15:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm planning on creating 2006 storms list. Is this a good idea? -- Howard the Duck 11:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
FYI, the country gets blasted by about 20 storms each year, if we'll include all of them. this will be very, very looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong. -- Howard the Duck 08:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
So, should we move this page to something like "2006 Philippine typhoon impacts"? – Ch acor 08:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Placed all information in the article within a table, and added the related tropical cyclone rainfall maxima into the article into a new section. Also, the article itself was not in the proper format for wikipedia, which has now been rectified. With all the changes made, and inline references finally existing, upped the article to Start class. Thegreatdr ( talk) 05:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
It's not clear how the dagger should be pronounced in "†Bagyo" and no guide is provided. If it is being used as a reference, an asterisk placed *after* the word "Bagyo" is clearer. Wakablogger2 ( talk) 05:48, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
This article states that the high for number of tropical cyclones moving through the Philippines occurred in 1993 when 17 passed through. However this source "III. The transformation sub-system: cultivation to market size in fishponds on the main Philippines page, identifies 19 typhoons a year as the average. Can someone comment on which is more accurate or add some qualifiers in interpretation that can help reconcile the numbers? Thank you. Lambanog ( talk) 13:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
It looks like we have the 19th century back (the Spanish period) covered per the new reference, and the last 63 years covered, but I don't think any of us have accessed typhoon death statistics from any source from the 1899-1946 period for the Philippines. Oddly enough, this is the American period of their history, so you'd think there would be some US-related source for that information. Thegreatdr ( talk) 12:09, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
There is - The AMS has a few Journals on typhoons in the Phillipines that i found by doing a general search for super typhoons.
Is there such a thing as a generally accepted definition of typhoon belt? I'm working on the Philippines article and someone has previously written about the Philippines lying "astride a typhoon belt". Common sense tells me this is perfectly logical, but I looked up the term and didn't find as much support for it as I would have thought. While there is an article for Wikipedia for hurricane belt there isn't one for typhoon belt. Also while I see mention of typhoon belt in sources when searching on Google Scholar, I notice they are in works most often related to the Philippines and I was unable to see a specifically defined region or path that the alluded to typhoon belt travels. I have also seen an article in Popular Mechanics from 1950 that outright dismisses the concept and says there is no such thing. The closest thing to a clearly marked path of a typhoon belt I have seen and which makes me think the Popular Mechanics article is out-of-date is stuff related to the great ocean conveyor belt or thermohaline circulation. Undoubtedly related but looking at associated maps of the great ocean conveyor belt I'm not sure it shows the Philippines "astride" it, more "along" it. Also as far as I know typhoons don't seem to run into Indonesia as much as the Philippines so the path of typhoons is different enough to think of it separately. Lambanog ( talk) 04:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
This article says that the term Bagyo pre-dates the 1911 coinage claimed in the article. This 1904 version of Charles Nigg's Tagalog-English Dictionary has the term and the author of the article says he also found the word in a reprinted edition of Francisco de San Antonio’s Vocabulario Tagalo. The current sentence is triple-sourced, but all of the sources are offline. Gobōnobō + c 18:28, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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Should this article cover every single tropical cyclone affecting the Philippines? If so, should it be sub-divided by year, or by island group? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Good day to all. I would like to point out the non-uniformity across Wikipedia articles and templates on the wind speed ranges of the Philippine TCWS, particularly the wind speeds in knots (kts) and miles per hours (mph).
I'm one of the contributors of the article on Tropical Cyclone Wind Signals. And in that article, I indicated the wind speed ranges in kilometers per hour (km/h), meters per second (m/s) and knots (kts) based on how DOST-PAGASA laid out these wind speed ranges in the March 2022 revision of the TCWS system—which, in turn, has been based on the Beaufort wind force scale, with the exception of Wind Signal #5. [a] [1] [2] [3] Since the km/h, m/s and kts wind speed ranges are based on the Beaufort scale, I thought that it would make sense if the wind speed ranges in mph would also be based on the Beaufort scale to ensure uniformity and traceability to the same basis/standard.
Nevertheless, I noticed that the wind speed ranges in kts and mph in the Wikipedia templates and other Wikipedia articles were not based on the Beaufort scale, but were derived by converting the values from km/h and rounding them to the nearest whole number. This resulted to overlapping threshold values (e.g. 48 kts and 55 mph as both upper limit of TCWS #2 and lower limit of TCWS #3) and, of course, the ranges not following the Beaufort scale like the wind speed ranges in km/h, m/s and kts (as laid out by PAGASA). So now, I'm wondering how we can reconcile all of our edits so that the information regarding the TCWS system will be the same across all concerned Wikipedia articles and templates.
Thank you very much, and have a nice day everyone! — Nairb.Idi9 ( talk) 13:43, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
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This thing should be finished first. However, it makes little sense to have a list of every tropical cyclone impacting the Philippines. To the article creator, you should consider making this similar to the Catastrophic hurricanes of Florida pages. Only the deadliest and costliest should be listed. Or, you could do it by decade, for example, and list every typhoon that cuased, let's say, 10 deaths in the Philippines and go into some detail. Hurricanehink 18:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I am changing baguio to bagyo. If the correct term is baguio , I need sources.-- Jondel 04:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Found it thanks to Jordz and just to clarify: Baguio is the Spanish spelling adopted for English.-- Jondel 01:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
The word baguio with the meaning as storm or typhoon is depracated even if it exists in the glossary of the American Metereological Society. I will make a note should the same issue come up again.-- Jondel 07:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
For future reference: (Using Baguio)
1. http://eob.gsfc.nasa.gov/Library/Hurricanes/ 2. http://www.bookrags.com/sciences/earthscience/tropical-cyclone-woes-02.html 3. http://members.tripod.com/~MitchellBrown/almanac/disasters_hurricanes.html 4. http://dmcengr.wisc.edu/courses/hazards/BB02-05.html 5. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/atmosphere/q0242.shtml 6. http://science.enotes.com/earth-science/tropical-cyclone 7. http://www.irinnews.org/webspecials/DR/Definitions.asp 8. http://webuccs.edu/geogenvs/ges100-online/Chapt7.doc
Chacor redirect this article to the related category earlier today. I've reverted that as an inappropriate cross-space redirect. Whilst this article currently reads as a highly incomplete list, it can be retasked into a potentially very useful article. If it is focussed on PAGASAs role in TYs, effects of typhoons in general in the Philippines, records and a few significant storms, as opposed to a long list of storms (which could be completed), this could be a potentially very useful article. In any case such a move should be discussed first, I see no reason for such a contraversial move.-- Nilfanion ( talk) 15:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm planning on creating 2006 storms list. Is this a good idea? -- Howard the Duck 11:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
FYI, the country gets blasted by about 20 storms each year, if we'll include all of them. this will be very, very looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong. -- Howard the Duck 08:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
So, should we move this page to something like "2006 Philippine typhoon impacts"? – Ch acor 08:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Placed all information in the article within a table, and added the related tropical cyclone rainfall maxima into the article into a new section. Also, the article itself was not in the proper format for wikipedia, which has now been rectified. With all the changes made, and inline references finally existing, upped the article to Start class. Thegreatdr ( talk) 05:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
It's not clear how the dagger should be pronounced in "†Bagyo" and no guide is provided. If it is being used as a reference, an asterisk placed *after* the word "Bagyo" is clearer. Wakablogger2 ( talk) 05:48, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
This article states that the high for number of tropical cyclones moving through the Philippines occurred in 1993 when 17 passed through. However this source "III. The transformation sub-system: cultivation to market size in fishponds on the main Philippines page, identifies 19 typhoons a year as the average. Can someone comment on which is more accurate or add some qualifiers in interpretation that can help reconcile the numbers? Thank you. Lambanog ( talk) 13:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
It looks like we have the 19th century back (the Spanish period) covered per the new reference, and the last 63 years covered, but I don't think any of us have accessed typhoon death statistics from any source from the 1899-1946 period for the Philippines. Oddly enough, this is the American period of their history, so you'd think there would be some US-related source for that information. Thegreatdr ( talk) 12:09, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
There is - The AMS has a few Journals on typhoons in the Phillipines that i found by doing a general search for super typhoons.
Is there such a thing as a generally accepted definition of typhoon belt? I'm working on the Philippines article and someone has previously written about the Philippines lying "astride a typhoon belt". Common sense tells me this is perfectly logical, but I looked up the term and didn't find as much support for it as I would have thought. While there is an article for Wikipedia for hurricane belt there isn't one for typhoon belt. Also while I see mention of typhoon belt in sources when searching on Google Scholar, I notice they are in works most often related to the Philippines and I was unable to see a specifically defined region or path that the alluded to typhoon belt travels. I have also seen an article in Popular Mechanics from 1950 that outright dismisses the concept and says there is no such thing. The closest thing to a clearly marked path of a typhoon belt I have seen and which makes me think the Popular Mechanics article is out-of-date is stuff related to the great ocean conveyor belt or thermohaline circulation. Undoubtedly related but looking at associated maps of the great ocean conveyor belt I'm not sure it shows the Philippines "astride" it, more "along" it. Also as far as I know typhoons don't seem to run into Indonesia as much as the Philippines so the path of typhoons is different enough to think of it separately. Lambanog ( talk) 04:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
This article says that the term Bagyo pre-dates the 1911 coinage claimed in the article. This 1904 version of Charles Nigg's Tagalog-English Dictionary has the term and the author of the article says he also found the word in a reprinted edition of Francisco de San Antonio’s Vocabulario Tagalo. The current sentence is triple-sourced, but all of the sources are offline. Gobōnobō + c 18:28, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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Should this article cover every single tropical cyclone affecting the Philippines? If so, should it be sub-divided by year, or by island group? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Good day to all. I would like to point out the non-uniformity across Wikipedia articles and templates on the wind speed ranges of the Philippine TCWS, particularly the wind speeds in knots (kts) and miles per hours (mph).
I'm one of the contributors of the article on Tropical Cyclone Wind Signals. And in that article, I indicated the wind speed ranges in kilometers per hour (km/h), meters per second (m/s) and knots (kts) based on how DOST-PAGASA laid out these wind speed ranges in the March 2022 revision of the TCWS system—which, in turn, has been based on the Beaufort wind force scale, with the exception of Wind Signal #5. [a] [1] [2] [3] Since the km/h, m/s and kts wind speed ranges are based on the Beaufort scale, I thought that it would make sense if the wind speed ranges in mph would also be based on the Beaufort scale to ensure uniformity and traceability to the same basis/standard.
Nevertheless, I noticed that the wind speed ranges in kts and mph in the Wikipedia templates and other Wikipedia articles were not based on the Beaufort scale, but were derived by converting the values from km/h and rounding them to the nearest whole number. This resulted to overlapping threshold values (e.g. 48 kts and 55 mph as both upper limit of TCWS #2 and lower limit of TCWS #3) and, of course, the ranges not following the Beaufort scale like the wind speed ranges in km/h, m/s and kts (as laid out by PAGASA). So now, I'm wondering how we can reconcile all of our edits so that the information regarding the TCWS system will be the same across all concerned Wikipedia articles and templates.
Thank you very much, and have a nice day everyone! — Nairb.Idi9 ( talk) 13:43, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
.