A fact from Typhoon Nepartak appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 July 2016 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that a 205 km/h (127 mph) gust of wind in
Taitung County, Taiwan, during Typhoon Nepartak(pictured) on July 8, 2016, is the highest recorded in the county?
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Meow: Concerning
this: What you wrote makes no sense. This sentence is too clunky for me to infer something meaningful from it. If you are claiming that it is the strongest first named storm of a given season on record, then you need a source for it and you need to clearly and unambiguously state that.--
Jasper Deng(talk)05:20, 6 July 2016 (UTC)reply
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edit conflict) @
Jasper Deng:Meow is citing Digital Typhoon's list of first named storms, which does verify the claim. However, the record is so arbitrary and irrelevant that it's not worth mentioning at all in my opinion. It's just happenstance with naming practices given data limitation (i.e. 01W could have had gale-force winds offshore, but we'll never know) rather than something meteorologically significant. ~
Cyclonebiskit (
chat)
05:46, 6 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Why I uploaded two versions
I have to write an explanation. The two pictures of Nepartak from Rapid Response - LANCE Gallery are damaged with noises, especially on the eye. For this important typhoon, that is why I needed to upload other versions from EOSDIS Worldview. --
Meow12:45, 7 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Anthony Sagliani, a tropical meteorologist at Earth Networks in Maryland, tells TIME that Nepartak was an almost textbook supertyphoon. “We as meteorologists have called Nepartak ‘perfect’ because, really, it is from a visual standpoint,” he said.
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Green Cardamom: "Super typhoon" is a term used by China, Taiwan, the Philippines, and the US-based Joint Typhoon Warning Center to describe high-end Category 4 or 5 (
Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale) equivalent storms. However, it's not used by the official warning center for the basin, the Japan Meteorological Agency, so we don't actively incorporate it into articles. ~
Cyclonebiskit (
chat)
21:11, 7 July 2016 (UTC)reply
We use severe typhoon (強烈颱風) over Taiwan in Chinese. However, the English scale completely follows the JMA so Nepartak is still simply called a typhoon. --
Meow06:09, 15 July 2016 (UTC)reply
At present it has yet to be verified so it's only really worth a brief mention in the met history. A note against including it as the minimum pressure might be necessary to stop all the edit warring though. ~
Cyclonebiskit (
chat)
22:26, 9 July 2016 (UTC)reply
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Typhoon2013: Doesn't mean we can't note that it's disputed, such as: "900 hPa (mbar); 26.58 inHg (Disputed; surface observation of 897 hPa recorded)". Also, JMA is very unlikely to change their estimate from 900 (it sucks, right? But they only seem to use surface data when it's from a Japanese station, such as for Dujuan of last year).--
Jasper Deng(talk)02:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply
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Jasper Deng:@
Cyclonebiskit: Hey can you guys request to semi-protect the article? (Possibly even the 2016 PTS article as well). I am already sick of anon users changing it to 897 hPa, since I had reverted the same edit 5 times, and one just recently before this message. According to the article's history, it's not just 1 user, it's a VARIETY of users who keep changing the same thing. D:<
Typhoon2013(talk)02:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Just as you said (and a lot said), it all started with the JMA! I really did expect Nepartak to reach a pressure of 890 or 895 hPa (which it did look like)... but somehow they just maintained it to 900 hPa. :(
Typhoon2013(talk)03:09, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply
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Typhoon2013: We all know that JMA's intensity estimate is way too conservative (at peak I would estimate it at about 165-170 kt 1-minute with an 880 hPa pressure, before the eyewall replacement cycle). This is off-topic though, per
WP:NOTAFORUM.--
Jasper Deng(talk)04:54, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply
A fact from Typhoon Nepartak appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 July 2016 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that a 205 km/h (127 mph) gust of wind in
Taitung County, Taiwan, during Typhoon Nepartak(pictured) on July 8, 2016, is the highest recorded in the county?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Weather, which collaborates on weather and related subjects on Wikipedia. To participate, help improve this article or visit the
project page for details.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChinaWikipedia:WikiProject ChinaTemplate:WikiProject ChinaChina-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Taiwan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Taiwan on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TaiwanWikipedia:WikiProject TaiwanTemplate:WikiProject TaiwanTaiwan articles
@
Meow: Concerning
this: What you wrote makes no sense. This sentence is too clunky for me to infer something meaningful from it. If you are claiming that it is the strongest first named storm of a given season on record, then you need a source for it and you need to clearly and unambiguously state that.--
Jasper Deng(talk)05:20, 6 July 2016 (UTC)reply
(
edit conflict) @
Jasper Deng:Meow is citing Digital Typhoon's list of first named storms, which does verify the claim. However, the record is so arbitrary and irrelevant that it's not worth mentioning at all in my opinion. It's just happenstance with naming practices given data limitation (i.e. 01W could have had gale-force winds offshore, but we'll never know) rather than something meteorologically significant. ~
Cyclonebiskit (
chat)
05:46, 6 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Why I uploaded two versions
I have to write an explanation. The two pictures of Nepartak from Rapid Response - LANCE Gallery are damaged with noises, especially on the eye. For this important typhoon, that is why I needed to upload other versions from EOSDIS Worldview. --
Meow12:45, 7 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Anthony Sagliani, a tropical meteorologist at Earth Networks in Maryland, tells TIME that Nepartak was an almost textbook supertyphoon. “We as meteorologists have called Nepartak ‘perfect’ because, really, it is from a visual standpoint,” he said.
@
Green Cardamom: "Super typhoon" is a term used by China, Taiwan, the Philippines, and the US-based Joint Typhoon Warning Center to describe high-end Category 4 or 5 (
Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale) equivalent storms. However, it's not used by the official warning center for the basin, the Japan Meteorological Agency, so we don't actively incorporate it into articles. ~
Cyclonebiskit (
chat)
21:11, 7 July 2016 (UTC)reply
We use severe typhoon (強烈颱風) over Taiwan in Chinese. However, the English scale completely follows the JMA so Nepartak is still simply called a typhoon. --
Meow06:09, 15 July 2016 (UTC)reply
At present it has yet to be verified so it's only really worth a brief mention in the met history. A note against including it as the minimum pressure might be necessary to stop all the edit warring though. ~
Cyclonebiskit (
chat)
22:26, 9 July 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Typhoon2013: Doesn't mean we can't note that it's disputed, such as: "900 hPa (mbar); 26.58 inHg (Disputed; surface observation of 897 hPa recorded)". Also, JMA is very unlikely to change their estimate from 900 (it sucks, right? But they only seem to use surface data when it's from a Japanese station, such as for Dujuan of last year).--
Jasper Deng(talk)02:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Jasper Deng:@
Cyclonebiskit: Hey can you guys request to semi-protect the article? (Possibly even the 2016 PTS article as well). I am already sick of anon users changing it to 897 hPa, since I had reverted the same edit 5 times, and one just recently before this message. According to the article's history, it's not just 1 user, it's a VARIETY of users who keep changing the same thing. D:<
Typhoon2013(talk)02:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Just as you said (and a lot said), it all started with the JMA! I really did expect Nepartak to reach a pressure of 890 or 895 hPa (which it did look like)... but somehow they just maintained it to 900 hPa. :(
Typhoon2013(talk)03:09, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Typhoon2013: We all know that JMA's intensity estimate is way too conservative (at peak I would estimate it at about 165-170 kt 1-minute with an 880 hPa pressure, before the eyewall replacement cycle). This is off-topic though, per
WP:NOTAFORUM.--
Jasper Deng(talk)04:54, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply