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Should the death date be on the 14th or some other date? Most articles have reported it today. But there was reports by friends that they haven't heard from him, and his status on discord apparently hadn't changed for 5 days. Bigfatman8766 ( talk) 03:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
This page was already previously deleted for lacking notability and this article only cites articles talking about his death, Twomad fails to meet any form of the notability standards of Wikipedia as his only notable achievement were brief cameos on broadcasts such as the BBC talking about the Zoom trolling from back in 2020-2021, this page should be deleted as it also does a terrible job representing this individual lacking most of his notability on the online sphere, (Ex: Zoom Trolling, Goodnight Girl, Abuse Allegations, Hasan Beef, Etc.), most of these topics are going to be lacking on sources because he is simply not notable enough to have numerous accredited sources talking about his career.
tl;dr: Twomad doesn’t meet the notability standards set by Wikipedia and as such this page should be deleted, this isn’t Wikitubia. InternetEnigma ( talk) 03:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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The youtube URL link is broken. When you click on it, it takes you to https://www.youtube.com/channel/@Threemad. This should've worked, but it redirects you to the main page. I attempted to fix this but to no use. On youtube, the page for a youtube channel is https://www.youtube.com/@Threemad. Is there a work around the link to remove the /channel/ part of it? Bigfatman8766 ( talk) 05:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Many people have questioned what substances Sedik was using that led to his addiction and ultimately his death.
The one I've heard the most frequently is ketamine. If you search "ketamine" and various slang for it on his Twitter profile @twomad, countless results referencing his personal drug use appear. I also saw footage of his final livestream on February 8th from hours before Sedik's death, where he directly mentions ketamine and says he's going to do it later numerous times. I do not know if Sedik was using other drugs as well. Mainstream media seems to be echoing the reports that he may have died from consuming large quantities of ketamine that was laced with fentanyl, or simply that he overdosed on fentanyl. I am not 100% sure how verifiable this is yet, but we will likely find out soon.
What we know from the LA Coroner's Office at this tims does at least indicate that the cause of death was a drug overdose. The exact nature of it has yet to be specified though.
Titanoboa Constrictor ( talk) 18:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
twomad had a high range of influence within internet culture but i must say its a tad underwhelming how the article for him only mentions his death, if anything i think this article is worth expanding instead of removing by any part Miner Eleven ( talk) 22:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
I tried to add an article from what I believed was a mainstream news source that would report on the death of a popular internet celebrity like this, The U.S. Sun, as a citation to confirm the verified claim that Muudea Sedik died while playing Overwatch 2. However, upon almost submitting this edit, I was warned by an editing bot that The Sun is a deprecated source and declined to submit the edit as a result. I figured this is the proper course of action given that automated warning.
TMZ was the first media outlet to report on twomad's death, shortly after it was discovered and announced to the public I believe. Despite otherwise often being an unreliable source given that they're a celebrity gossip tabloid, they tend to be fairly accurate when reporting the deaths of public figures shortly after they happen.
Given my troubles with The Sun, we need more verified reliable news sources to report on Sedik's internet entertainment career, his public reputation, and the circumstances surrounding his death. I think we should avoid citing social sources like YouTube and Twitter, even if using verified footage or statements from Muudea himself from before his death, as websites like those two are notoriously unreliable sources, regardless of content. I'll search the web for these tonight and tomorrow, but I could definitely use some help. Please feel free to give me a hand with this if you're interested. Thank you.
Titanoboa Constrictor ( talk) 00:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
So far have yet to see anyone mention all the info Jameskii has been revealing about Twomad on twitter. I don't know anything about editing Wikipedia or even how to upload photos or anything, but I'll leave some of jameskii's main tweets here for someone who knows what their doing to look at, might be useful info for deciding on page removal which I don't think should happen especially with how hard he is to research about due to legal disputes and because James will be releasing more info soon hes said. Jameskii Twitter Post 1 Jameskii Twitter Post 2
Also tweet from Minx(another YouTuber, allegedly interfered with legal action against twomad according to James) showing papers from case against twomad that show him holding various firearms Minx Twitter Post
(sorry for terrible formatting, the mobile Wikipedia layout ain't that good honestly and idk what im doing) dd 75.140.37.34 ( talk) 11:25, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
@ Davest3r08 I'm going to challenge your assertion of this being a mid-level importance subject/article for the YT project. I'm just not seeing it here in the assessment scale. It does not meet the criteria of "Subject is only notable within its particular field or subject and has achieved notability in a particular place or area.", and I do not think that mid-importance in internet culture automagically means it gets mid-importance in the method of conveyance. For YT - this should be bumped down to low. --Picard's Facepalm • Made It So Engage! • 15:59, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, @ Vortex3427 for adjusting the importance levels. As you can see above - I tried to previously challenge the original rankings - but received no further response from @ Davest3r08. I am glad that someone else from the assessment team sees that this was incorrectly tagged. In reality - I still think this entire article should not exist - but that's another discussion. --Picard's Facepalm • Made It So Engage! • 19:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
A section dedicated to talking about his mental health such as his schizophrenia could be helpful? what's your opinions on it [1] Realgravity ( talk) 06:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
this article is riddled with information that may be pertinent to his fandom, but is unsupported outside of these platforms and therefore should not be considered noteworthy enough for a wikipedia page. Equirax ( talk) 00:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
I tried expanding the article based on the only useful (as opposed to useable) sources we have. Some of them, such as HotNewHipHop, came across to me as churnalism (although I kept some in such as E! Online). Everything seems to be summarized here, except his Overwatch Discord status — VORTEX 3427 ( Talk!) 10:23, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
@ FroneFC: Please stop reinstating the death date despite multiple reverts. It's WP:OR. We should just leave it at "early February 2024" or "February 2024", or, if you want, "February 9–13, 2024". WritingAboutCreepypastas ( talk) 04:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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Should the death date be on the 14th or some other date? Most articles have reported it today. But there was reports by friends that they haven't heard from him, and his status on discord apparently hadn't changed for 5 days. Bigfatman8766 ( talk) 03:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
This page was already previously deleted for lacking notability and this article only cites articles talking about his death, Twomad fails to meet any form of the notability standards of Wikipedia as his only notable achievement were brief cameos on broadcasts such as the BBC talking about the Zoom trolling from back in 2020-2021, this page should be deleted as it also does a terrible job representing this individual lacking most of his notability on the online sphere, (Ex: Zoom Trolling, Goodnight Girl, Abuse Allegations, Hasan Beef, Etc.), most of these topics are going to be lacking on sources because he is simply not notable enough to have numerous accredited sources talking about his career.
tl;dr: Twomad doesn’t meet the notability standards set by Wikipedia and as such this page should be deleted, this isn’t Wikitubia. InternetEnigma ( talk) 03:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
References
The youtube URL link is broken. When you click on it, it takes you to https://www.youtube.com/channel/@Threemad. This should've worked, but it redirects you to the main page. I attempted to fix this but to no use. On youtube, the page for a youtube channel is https://www.youtube.com/@Threemad. Is there a work around the link to remove the /channel/ part of it? Bigfatman8766 ( talk) 05:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Many people have questioned what substances Sedik was using that led to his addiction and ultimately his death.
The one I've heard the most frequently is ketamine. If you search "ketamine" and various slang for it on his Twitter profile @twomad, countless results referencing his personal drug use appear. I also saw footage of his final livestream on February 8th from hours before Sedik's death, where he directly mentions ketamine and says he's going to do it later numerous times. I do not know if Sedik was using other drugs as well. Mainstream media seems to be echoing the reports that he may have died from consuming large quantities of ketamine that was laced with fentanyl, or simply that he overdosed on fentanyl. I am not 100% sure how verifiable this is yet, but we will likely find out soon.
What we know from the LA Coroner's Office at this tims does at least indicate that the cause of death was a drug overdose. The exact nature of it has yet to be specified though.
Titanoboa Constrictor ( talk) 18:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
twomad had a high range of influence within internet culture but i must say its a tad underwhelming how the article for him only mentions his death, if anything i think this article is worth expanding instead of removing by any part Miner Eleven ( talk) 22:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
I tried to add an article from what I believed was a mainstream news source that would report on the death of a popular internet celebrity like this, The U.S. Sun, as a citation to confirm the verified claim that Muudea Sedik died while playing Overwatch 2. However, upon almost submitting this edit, I was warned by an editing bot that The Sun is a deprecated source and declined to submit the edit as a result. I figured this is the proper course of action given that automated warning.
TMZ was the first media outlet to report on twomad's death, shortly after it was discovered and announced to the public I believe. Despite otherwise often being an unreliable source given that they're a celebrity gossip tabloid, they tend to be fairly accurate when reporting the deaths of public figures shortly after they happen.
Given my troubles with The Sun, we need more verified reliable news sources to report on Sedik's internet entertainment career, his public reputation, and the circumstances surrounding his death. I think we should avoid citing social sources like YouTube and Twitter, even if using verified footage or statements from Muudea himself from before his death, as websites like those two are notoriously unreliable sources, regardless of content. I'll search the web for these tonight and tomorrow, but I could definitely use some help. Please feel free to give me a hand with this if you're interested. Thank you.
Titanoboa Constrictor ( talk) 00:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
So far have yet to see anyone mention all the info Jameskii has been revealing about Twomad on twitter. I don't know anything about editing Wikipedia or even how to upload photos or anything, but I'll leave some of jameskii's main tweets here for someone who knows what their doing to look at, might be useful info for deciding on page removal which I don't think should happen especially with how hard he is to research about due to legal disputes and because James will be releasing more info soon hes said. Jameskii Twitter Post 1 Jameskii Twitter Post 2
Also tweet from Minx(another YouTuber, allegedly interfered with legal action against twomad according to James) showing papers from case against twomad that show him holding various firearms Minx Twitter Post
(sorry for terrible formatting, the mobile Wikipedia layout ain't that good honestly and idk what im doing) dd 75.140.37.34 ( talk) 11:25, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
@ Davest3r08 I'm going to challenge your assertion of this being a mid-level importance subject/article for the YT project. I'm just not seeing it here in the assessment scale. It does not meet the criteria of "Subject is only notable within its particular field or subject and has achieved notability in a particular place or area.", and I do not think that mid-importance in internet culture automagically means it gets mid-importance in the method of conveyance. For YT - this should be bumped down to low. --Picard's Facepalm • Made It So Engage! • 15:59, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, @ Vortex3427 for adjusting the importance levels. As you can see above - I tried to previously challenge the original rankings - but received no further response from @ Davest3r08. I am glad that someone else from the assessment team sees that this was incorrectly tagged. In reality - I still think this entire article should not exist - but that's another discussion. --Picard's Facepalm • Made It So Engage! • 19:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
A section dedicated to talking about his mental health such as his schizophrenia could be helpful? what's your opinions on it [1] Realgravity ( talk) 06:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
this article is riddled with information that may be pertinent to his fandom, but is unsupported outside of these platforms and therefore should not be considered noteworthy enough for a wikipedia page. Equirax ( talk) 00:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
I tried expanding the article based on the only useful (as opposed to useable) sources we have. Some of them, such as HotNewHipHop, came across to me as churnalism (although I kept some in such as E! Online). Everything seems to be summarized here, except his Overwatch Discord status — VORTEX 3427 ( Talk!) 10:23, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
@ FroneFC: Please stop reinstating the death date despite multiple reverts. It's WP:OR. We should just leave it at "early February 2024" or "February 2024", or, if you want, "February 9–13, 2024". WritingAboutCreepypastas ( talk) 04:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)