Removed Chicago IL-Gary IN as an example. Gary was founded as an industrial suburb well after Chicago's rise to prominence.
A little girl from Minneapolis came home from Sunday School with a frown on her face.
"I'm not going back there anymore," she announced with finality. "I don't like the Bible they keep teaching us."
"Why not?" asked her astonished mother.
"Because," said the little girl, "the Bible is always talking about St. Paul, and it never once mentions Minneapolis."
Budapest should not be listed here. In contrast to the other examples it is one city and an administrative unit, and only in medieval history Buda and Pest were separate cities. -- Cordyph 22:38 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
Shouldn't Twin Cities be moved to twin cities (currently non-existent)? Because it's any twin cities (common noun), not like "The Twin Cities of Buda-Pest" (which can probably not be written with all cap anyway, since it's not an official name and probably nobody calls them like that). -- Menchi 08:45 5 Jul 2003 (UTC)
It's a bit difficult to know what to put in this article, for instance the article mentions Leeds and Bradford and says they don't go together because they have strong separate identities, on the other hand San Diego and Tijuana are paired and they certainly have strong separate identities. London is used as an example but is not listed. What defines a city? If a village is incorporated into a town but locally retains its name though with no legal standing can the pairing be listed? (see Budapest) Bob Palin 04:47, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The examples of "twin cities" on this page are often absurd. ChessPlayer 06:09, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't we make a distinction between cities that are geographically close and between those that are separated by hundreds of miles? It seems like we are using the term "twin cities" for what is also called "sister cities." And in these cases it's not like the "twin cities" actually bear any relation to each other culturally. So how about separating the list of twin cities into the two types listed at the beginning of the page.
Removed Hong Kong and Kowloon from the category-
Hong Kong and Kowloon is the same city separated by a harbour. The Kowloon area is developed mostly due to the need for expansion from Hong Kong Island. In fact the Convention of Peking (see Chinese image at [1]) states that the area of Kowloon (then mostly undeveloped) is ceded to the UK is for inclusion into the boundary of British Hong Kong. Development of the same city across a natural boundary should be distinguished from the type of twin cities mentioned in this article where close, distinct cities developed independently and merged together. Otherwise many more cities can be listed here.
By the way the name Victoria (City) is only a historial one and should not be referenced except in historical context. - Hlaw 11:19, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
A little research on Google:
--21:31, December 8, 2004, UTC
a list showing population statistics of Kowloon and Hong Kong (probably Hong Kong Island) separately.
--13:37, December 9, 2004, UTC
This beating round the bush is jus plain irritating. Now you go back to arguing that Hong Kong has two holes in its centre, taken up by Victoria City and Kowloon?-- Huaiwei 07:04, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Like Beebe Plain (village), Québec/Vermont listed, Sha Tau Kok / Shatoujiao is a town across a border, and was therefore added. -- 17:24, December 9, 2004, UTC
Simple. I have been asking you to proof to us that those two entities are seperate and distinct from Hong Kong and Shenzhen. Where is it? On the one hand you claim that you are being magnaminous, patient, and coorperative. On the other hand, you single handedly continue to go round making the same controversial edits. Do you think you deserve our patience and politeness now?-- Huaiwei 07:09, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Sha Tau Kok, HK and Shatoujiao, Shenzhen should be “ divided cities”. I don't know why there're put here. -- Hello World! 16:20, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Why "Canada" and "United States" are left out behind the names of cities?
I put the "merge" label lackig a better one.
A clear cut must be done between the two notions. Let us face it: "twin cities" requires a normal disambiguation, rather than tweaking with article names. I am pretty sure that 80% of links to Twin cities must in fact go to "Twin towning".
A significant part of "Twin cities" must be moved to "town twinning", including a part of the list. Mikkalai 02:04, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I have lived in the Baltimore - Washington area my whole life, and other than being two big metro areas, there is nothing in common between the two cities. They are seperated by 45 miles.
I would like someone to point us to a source that specifically shows how the goverments of Baltimore City and the District co-operate and are "Twins"
Just because the airport used to be called BWI (It's now the Thurgood Marshall Baltimore Washington International Airport; What is with this area and long airport names, like the (Ronald) Regan (George) Washington National Airport), that doesn't make them twin cities.
What about Tongzhou and Langfang? -- Dpr 03:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
The twin cities of Tirunelveli and Palayamkottai are appearing twice on the list. Either one of these appearences should be removed. It is my humble request that people wishing to edit the Wiki pages go through them properly before adding or deleting content, so as to prevent future issues like this double appearance.
Meanwhile I would like to bring to the notice of Wiki users and editors, that there is another 'twin town' or 'twin village' rather: Keeranipatty-Kuruvikondanpatty in Tamilnadu. While Keeranipatty falls under the Sivagangai district, Kuruvikondanpatty falls under the Pudukottai district. Both are very adjacent to each other and share the same temples and temple ponds. The two villages are just a stone's throw from each other and each village can be easily seen by the other from the two sides of the temple pond. They even share many infrastructure facilities like bus-stop, school, etc. But the people from the two villages are predominantly of different background and don't mingle much (as in the case of people from Cochin-Ernakulam or Hyderabad-Secunderabad or Palayamkottai-Tirunelveli). This can be attributed to the old social circumstances still prevailing in rural India.
I've also seen a few villages like these in Cuddalore district of Tamilnadu, but I'm not able to recollect their names clearly. They have the same names too, except for a change of initials before their village name (initials usually were C for Chidambaram or Cuddalore and B for Bhuvanagiri; the initial was used to denote the village was closer to that town). I feel Wiki users from Chidambaram or Cuddalore area can help to list those 'twin villages' in this list, and make known to the world that India has a lot to offer, be it in software, social development, Wiki content, or spreading peace and prosperity, etc. Jai Hind!
I am leaving it, although I am skeptical.
There are cultural differences, and Oakland could be viewed as a seprate city (very distinct center) or a suburb (large SF commuter population), but I am not sure of twin. And if oakland is in there, why not Berkeley, possibly even just Berkeley and Oakland?
I am leaving it, although I am skeptical (to quote the above entry)
Orange County has quite a few of these smaller cities that all have run together and Anaheim and Santa Ana don't seem to deserve any special picking-out. I have never before heard them called 'Twin Cities'. Greg 19:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
St. Anthony was never a different city than Minneapolis. St. Anthony is minneapolis, or, rather, the old name of it. It wasn't a twin city, it is minneapolis Thanatosimii 20:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Springfield is seperated from Hartford not only by the state border (which would be the point), but by the Longmeadows (culturally and demographically quite different from Springfield) and by several towns in Connecticut. Indeed, much of this area is fairly rural (though not so much as Franklin County where I live. I'm not really clear how this can be considered a twin city.
Hatford and Springfield do form (sort of) a single urban area, a northern branch of the Boston-Washington Urban Corridor and keep trying to strenghten ties, but that's about it.
Springfield and Chicopee or Springfield and West Springfield might be a better combination. Though West Springfield is much smaller and much nicer to visit than Springfield is. Of course, this could be another one of Springfield's attempts at self-promotion, like the "knowledge corridor," but geographically it doesn't make sense. -- 71.192.116.43 19:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
>"So the more appropriate term would seem to be 'conurbation', but not 'twin city'. -- Adz|talk 01:13, 1 February 2006 (UTC)"<
This page is in perilous violation of the rules about "original research" on wikipedia. The definition of "twin cities" is not sourced anywhere - it's just completely made up, based on the perceptions of wikipedia editors of what constitutes a set of twin cities. Furthermore, the list is unsourced and is similarly based on editor's opinions of what is and isnt a "twin city". - Dmz5 *Edits* *Talk* 21:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I rediscovered a book which lists city nicknames, including "Twin Cities" and variants: "Nicknames and Sobriquets of U.S. Cities, States, and Counties" by Joseph Nathan Kane and Gerard L. Alexander (Scarecrow, 1991, ISBN 978-0810812550 ). (I've read the 1965 predecessor, and I'm assuming that names in the newer edition are not as obsolete.) Perhaps that can be used to reconstruct a list. Mapsax 19:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
This article consists almost entirely of a section called "Definition" that doesn't define anything. All it does is say that some cities considered "twin cities" are this way and some are that way. Some are this other way and some are that other way. And by the way, here are some examples of twin cities. And here is some more trivia. And here are some more random examples.
There is no indication of any significant uniting characteristic of twin cities in general that make them worthy of encyclopedic note. Rather, the term appears to be a generic expression applied loosely to various pairs of cities around the world, of no more encyclopedic interest than the phrase "big city" or an article on "famous Susans". Perhaps it would be better placed in Wiktionary. — Largo Plazo 14:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I think ther must be set a strict distinction for "twin cities" wich did not grow together from two different city, but, on the opposite way, originally there was one city which was divided (usually by newly created state borders). E.g. from this list Gornja Radgona was originally a part of the Austrian Bad Radkersburg and the two cities were divided by the Austrian - Yugoslavian (Kingdom of Serbia-Croatia-Slovenia those days) border in 1919. It's the same story for Zgorzelec/Görlitz, Tesin/Cieszyn, and (which is not listed) Frankfurt/Slubice. There are lots of examples in Central Europe where new borders that did not have any historical traditions were drawn to the maps after World War I often using geographical objects such as rivers as new state border - even if these new borders divided cities, towns and villages. Attus ( talk) 12:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Springfield and Shelbyville are not twin cities according to the definition provided in the article. I am removing the reference.
There needs to be a clear, objective definition of what we're talking about in this article. What are the criteria for something being a twin city? Here are some problematic inclusions on the list:
-- Torc2 20:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Lets try to find examples of someone referring to two cities as "Twin Cities" at least locally. For example, Lewiston, Maine and Auburn, Maine are often called "The Twin Cities" (google Lewiston Auburn Twin Cities and you find lots of press articles and official websites mentioning such. Cambridge, Massachusetts and Somerville, Massachusetts are definitely not, google them and Twin Cities and you find mentions of tanning salons near the border that are called Twin Cities.
SO: Find a good citation, and link it as an example after the entry. Something in the press, from a major institution (a college, etc) or on an official city website. Don't just put any podunk town down because the town next door is called West Podunk.
Oh, and if a pair has a Wikipedia article (the Twin Cities, the Twin Ports) it's hunky dory.
Ofsevit ( talk) 00:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I thought the tri-cities were Kitchener, Waterloo, and Cambridge. How does Guelph figure into things? -- timc talk 05:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can someone explain to me why we shouldn't delete the lists on this page? They are all unsourced and only a few examples are even capable of being sourced. - Dmz5 *Edits* *Talk* 21:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
This page needs a ton of work. I just deleted this section:
Bloomington and Normal, Illinois have always rebuffed any merger referendum, and where the original boundary is named "Division Street". In England, the cities of Leeds and Bradford are very close, but have strong separate identities and would not see themselves as part of the same entity. Both cities have individual cathedrals and councils, as well as having separate sports teams.
Division Street is a very common street name in the U.S. and elsewhere. The info on Leeds and Bradford is unsourced and really irrelevant. innotata Talk Contribs 17:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
How about Ottawa, Ontario and Hull, Quebec?
It seems like one of the more obvious ones to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.7.210.51 ( talk) 14:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
If a two towns that are fairly close to each other but are relatively independent grow into each other, then you could say they are twinned. But surely if a single town is founded on or near a border, and the growth of the town means some suburbs, or even the main business district of the town is now on the other side of the border, surely it is still one town. The parts of the town over the border are not twinned with itself. A state line through a town doesnt automatically create twins. Newark is not a twin of New York. So I'm having trouble with the constant reference of Bristol TN/VA being referred to as a twin city of itself. Surely a requiste of a twin is that they have different names! 210.7.132.80 ( talk) 02:52, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Many of the British examples do not fit the definition of a city, having neither a charter, the legal definition or a Cathedral the older, traditional definition.
There is almost 40 km of more or less unpopulated place between Vienna and Bratislava (unlike Ulm and Neu-Ulm or Radgona and Gornja Radgona which are sepreated by a river, or Gorica nad Nova Gorica which are merely separated by an (artificial) state border), so they can not really form a twin city if you'd ask me. -- Smihael ( talk) 20:51, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Does the source answer your question now? -- Irmingard 07:44, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
... If only because in wide usage, places like Bristol Tennessee/Virginia or Texarkana Texas/Arkansas are widely described as "Twin cities". I agree that the list needs to be properly managed, but if cities like that are specifically excluded, then the article does not itself properly represent the full usage of the term "twin city". I would rather that fixed the lead to include cities in close geographic proximity even if they share a name, since practice in the world does that too. Consider Here which shows how the two Bristols are called "Twin Cities" and here shows same for Texarkana. I agree the article needs to be consistent, but I think we address the consistancy by representing what the world outside of Wikipedia considers to be "twin cities" and not what we want them to be; if that means fixing the lead to include cities like the two Bristols or the two Texarkanas, then we should do that rather than remove cities from the list that a plethora of other sources calls Twin Cities. -- Jayron 32 23:22, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I agree, maybe we should step away from the "geographical proximity only" definition and make it a broader one to include twin cities like Vienna and Bratislava. -- Irmingard 07:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Surely Kansas City, Missouri, and Kansas City, Kansas should be included in the North America section? Rcsprinter (state) @ 12:18, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there a general demonym for a resident of twin cities? Having previously lived in Minneapolis/St. Paul, I've frequently heard "Twin Citian" but I'm not sure if that is only used locally. 2620:0:1000:330A:1260:4BFF:FE68:1D1D ( talk) 21:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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Removed Chicago IL-Gary IN as an example. Gary was founded as an industrial suburb well after Chicago's rise to prominence.
A little girl from Minneapolis came home from Sunday School with a frown on her face.
"I'm not going back there anymore," she announced with finality. "I don't like the Bible they keep teaching us."
"Why not?" asked her astonished mother.
"Because," said the little girl, "the Bible is always talking about St. Paul, and it never once mentions Minneapolis."
Budapest should not be listed here. In contrast to the other examples it is one city and an administrative unit, and only in medieval history Buda and Pest were separate cities. -- Cordyph 22:38 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
Shouldn't Twin Cities be moved to twin cities (currently non-existent)? Because it's any twin cities (common noun), not like "The Twin Cities of Buda-Pest" (which can probably not be written with all cap anyway, since it's not an official name and probably nobody calls them like that). -- Menchi 08:45 5 Jul 2003 (UTC)
It's a bit difficult to know what to put in this article, for instance the article mentions Leeds and Bradford and says they don't go together because they have strong separate identities, on the other hand San Diego and Tijuana are paired and they certainly have strong separate identities. London is used as an example but is not listed. What defines a city? If a village is incorporated into a town but locally retains its name though with no legal standing can the pairing be listed? (see Budapest) Bob Palin 04:47, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The examples of "twin cities" on this page are often absurd. ChessPlayer 06:09, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't we make a distinction between cities that are geographically close and between those that are separated by hundreds of miles? It seems like we are using the term "twin cities" for what is also called "sister cities." And in these cases it's not like the "twin cities" actually bear any relation to each other culturally. So how about separating the list of twin cities into the two types listed at the beginning of the page.
Removed Hong Kong and Kowloon from the category-
Hong Kong and Kowloon is the same city separated by a harbour. The Kowloon area is developed mostly due to the need for expansion from Hong Kong Island. In fact the Convention of Peking (see Chinese image at [1]) states that the area of Kowloon (then mostly undeveloped) is ceded to the UK is for inclusion into the boundary of British Hong Kong. Development of the same city across a natural boundary should be distinguished from the type of twin cities mentioned in this article where close, distinct cities developed independently and merged together. Otherwise many more cities can be listed here.
By the way the name Victoria (City) is only a historial one and should not be referenced except in historical context. - Hlaw 11:19, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
A little research on Google:
--21:31, December 8, 2004, UTC
a list showing population statistics of Kowloon and Hong Kong (probably Hong Kong Island) separately.
--13:37, December 9, 2004, UTC
This beating round the bush is jus plain irritating. Now you go back to arguing that Hong Kong has two holes in its centre, taken up by Victoria City and Kowloon?-- Huaiwei 07:04, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Like Beebe Plain (village), Québec/Vermont listed, Sha Tau Kok / Shatoujiao is a town across a border, and was therefore added. -- 17:24, December 9, 2004, UTC
Simple. I have been asking you to proof to us that those two entities are seperate and distinct from Hong Kong and Shenzhen. Where is it? On the one hand you claim that you are being magnaminous, patient, and coorperative. On the other hand, you single handedly continue to go round making the same controversial edits. Do you think you deserve our patience and politeness now?-- Huaiwei 07:09, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Sha Tau Kok, HK and Shatoujiao, Shenzhen should be “ divided cities”. I don't know why there're put here. -- Hello World! 16:20, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Why "Canada" and "United States" are left out behind the names of cities?
I put the "merge" label lackig a better one.
A clear cut must be done between the two notions. Let us face it: "twin cities" requires a normal disambiguation, rather than tweaking with article names. I am pretty sure that 80% of links to Twin cities must in fact go to "Twin towning".
A significant part of "Twin cities" must be moved to "town twinning", including a part of the list. Mikkalai 02:04, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I have lived in the Baltimore - Washington area my whole life, and other than being two big metro areas, there is nothing in common between the two cities. They are seperated by 45 miles.
I would like someone to point us to a source that specifically shows how the goverments of Baltimore City and the District co-operate and are "Twins"
Just because the airport used to be called BWI (It's now the Thurgood Marshall Baltimore Washington International Airport; What is with this area and long airport names, like the (Ronald) Regan (George) Washington National Airport), that doesn't make them twin cities.
What about Tongzhou and Langfang? -- Dpr 03:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
The twin cities of Tirunelveli and Palayamkottai are appearing twice on the list. Either one of these appearences should be removed. It is my humble request that people wishing to edit the Wiki pages go through them properly before adding or deleting content, so as to prevent future issues like this double appearance.
Meanwhile I would like to bring to the notice of Wiki users and editors, that there is another 'twin town' or 'twin village' rather: Keeranipatty-Kuruvikondanpatty in Tamilnadu. While Keeranipatty falls under the Sivagangai district, Kuruvikondanpatty falls under the Pudukottai district. Both are very adjacent to each other and share the same temples and temple ponds. The two villages are just a stone's throw from each other and each village can be easily seen by the other from the two sides of the temple pond. They even share many infrastructure facilities like bus-stop, school, etc. But the people from the two villages are predominantly of different background and don't mingle much (as in the case of people from Cochin-Ernakulam or Hyderabad-Secunderabad or Palayamkottai-Tirunelveli). This can be attributed to the old social circumstances still prevailing in rural India.
I've also seen a few villages like these in Cuddalore district of Tamilnadu, but I'm not able to recollect their names clearly. They have the same names too, except for a change of initials before their village name (initials usually were C for Chidambaram or Cuddalore and B for Bhuvanagiri; the initial was used to denote the village was closer to that town). I feel Wiki users from Chidambaram or Cuddalore area can help to list those 'twin villages' in this list, and make known to the world that India has a lot to offer, be it in software, social development, Wiki content, or spreading peace and prosperity, etc. Jai Hind!
I am leaving it, although I am skeptical.
There are cultural differences, and Oakland could be viewed as a seprate city (very distinct center) or a suburb (large SF commuter population), but I am not sure of twin. And if oakland is in there, why not Berkeley, possibly even just Berkeley and Oakland?
I am leaving it, although I am skeptical (to quote the above entry)
Orange County has quite a few of these smaller cities that all have run together and Anaheim and Santa Ana don't seem to deserve any special picking-out. I have never before heard them called 'Twin Cities'. Greg 19:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
St. Anthony was never a different city than Minneapolis. St. Anthony is minneapolis, or, rather, the old name of it. It wasn't a twin city, it is minneapolis Thanatosimii 20:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Springfield is seperated from Hartford not only by the state border (which would be the point), but by the Longmeadows (culturally and demographically quite different from Springfield) and by several towns in Connecticut. Indeed, much of this area is fairly rural (though not so much as Franklin County where I live. I'm not really clear how this can be considered a twin city.
Hatford and Springfield do form (sort of) a single urban area, a northern branch of the Boston-Washington Urban Corridor and keep trying to strenghten ties, but that's about it.
Springfield and Chicopee or Springfield and West Springfield might be a better combination. Though West Springfield is much smaller and much nicer to visit than Springfield is. Of course, this could be another one of Springfield's attempts at self-promotion, like the "knowledge corridor," but geographically it doesn't make sense. -- 71.192.116.43 19:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
>"So the more appropriate term would seem to be 'conurbation', but not 'twin city'. -- Adz|talk 01:13, 1 February 2006 (UTC)"<
This page is in perilous violation of the rules about "original research" on wikipedia. The definition of "twin cities" is not sourced anywhere - it's just completely made up, based on the perceptions of wikipedia editors of what constitutes a set of twin cities. Furthermore, the list is unsourced and is similarly based on editor's opinions of what is and isnt a "twin city". - Dmz5 *Edits* *Talk* 21:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I rediscovered a book which lists city nicknames, including "Twin Cities" and variants: "Nicknames and Sobriquets of U.S. Cities, States, and Counties" by Joseph Nathan Kane and Gerard L. Alexander (Scarecrow, 1991, ISBN 978-0810812550 ). (I've read the 1965 predecessor, and I'm assuming that names in the newer edition are not as obsolete.) Perhaps that can be used to reconstruct a list. Mapsax 19:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
This article consists almost entirely of a section called "Definition" that doesn't define anything. All it does is say that some cities considered "twin cities" are this way and some are that way. Some are this other way and some are that other way. And by the way, here are some examples of twin cities. And here is some more trivia. And here are some more random examples.
There is no indication of any significant uniting characteristic of twin cities in general that make them worthy of encyclopedic note. Rather, the term appears to be a generic expression applied loosely to various pairs of cities around the world, of no more encyclopedic interest than the phrase "big city" or an article on "famous Susans". Perhaps it would be better placed in Wiktionary. — Largo Plazo 14:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I think ther must be set a strict distinction for "twin cities" wich did not grow together from two different city, but, on the opposite way, originally there was one city which was divided (usually by newly created state borders). E.g. from this list Gornja Radgona was originally a part of the Austrian Bad Radkersburg and the two cities were divided by the Austrian - Yugoslavian (Kingdom of Serbia-Croatia-Slovenia those days) border in 1919. It's the same story for Zgorzelec/Görlitz, Tesin/Cieszyn, and (which is not listed) Frankfurt/Slubice. There are lots of examples in Central Europe where new borders that did not have any historical traditions were drawn to the maps after World War I often using geographical objects such as rivers as new state border - even if these new borders divided cities, towns and villages. Attus ( talk) 12:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Springfield and Shelbyville are not twin cities according to the definition provided in the article. I am removing the reference.
There needs to be a clear, objective definition of what we're talking about in this article. What are the criteria for something being a twin city? Here are some problematic inclusions on the list:
-- Torc2 20:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Lets try to find examples of someone referring to two cities as "Twin Cities" at least locally. For example, Lewiston, Maine and Auburn, Maine are often called "The Twin Cities" (google Lewiston Auburn Twin Cities and you find lots of press articles and official websites mentioning such. Cambridge, Massachusetts and Somerville, Massachusetts are definitely not, google them and Twin Cities and you find mentions of tanning salons near the border that are called Twin Cities.
SO: Find a good citation, and link it as an example after the entry. Something in the press, from a major institution (a college, etc) or on an official city website. Don't just put any podunk town down because the town next door is called West Podunk.
Oh, and if a pair has a Wikipedia article (the Twin Cities, the Twin Ports) it's hunky dory.
Ofsevit ( talk) 00:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I thought the tri-cities were Kitchener, Waterloo, and Cambridge. How does Guelph figure into things? -- timc talk 05:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can someone explain to me why we shouldn't delete the lists on this page? They are all unsourced and only a few examples are even capable of being sourced. - Dmz5 *Edits* *Talk* 21:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
This page needs a ton of work. I just deleted this section:
Bloomington and Normal, Illinois have always rebuffed any merger referendum, and where the original boundary is named "Division Street". In England, the cities of Leeds and Bradford are very close, but have strong separate identities and would not see themselves as part of the same entity. Both cities have individual cathedrals and councils, as well as having separate sports teams.
Division Street is a very common street name in the U.S. and elsewhere. The info on Leeds and Bradford is unsourced and really irrelevant. innotata Talk Contribs 17:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
How about Ottawa, Ontario and Hull, Quebec?
It seems like one of the more obvious ones to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.7.210.51 ( talk) 14:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
If a two towns that are fairly close to each other but are relatively independent grow into each other, then you could say they are twinned. But surely if a single town is founded on or near a border, and the growth of the town means some suburbs, or even the main business district of the town is now on the other side of the border, surely it is still one town. The parts of the town over the border are not twinned with itself. A state line through a town doesnt automatically create twins. Newark is not a twin of New York. So I'm having trouble with the constant reference of Bristol TN/VA being referred to as a twin city of itself. Surely a requiste of a twin is that they have different names! 210.7.132.80 ( talk) 02:52, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Many of the British examples do not fit the definition of a city, having neither a charter, the legal definition or a Cathedral the older, traditional definition.
There is almost 40 km of more or less unpopulated place between Vienna and Bratislava (unlike Ulm and Neu-Ulm or Radgona and Gornja Radgona which are sepreated by a river, or Gorica nad Nova Gorica which are merely separated by an (artificial) state border), so they can not really form a twin city if you'd ask me. -- Smihael ( talk) 20:51, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Does the source answer your question now? -- Irmingard 07:44, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
... If only because in wide usage, places like Bristol Tennessee/Virginia or Texarkana Texas/Arkansas are widely described as "Twin cities". I agree that the list needs to be properly managed, but if cities like that are specifically excluded, then the article does not itself properly represent the full usage of the term "twin city". I would rather that fixed the lead to include cities in close geographic proximity even if they share a name, since practice in the world does that too. Consider Here which shows how the two Bristols are called "Twin Cities" and here shows same for Texarkana. I agree the article needs to be consistent, but I think we address the consistancy by representing what the world outside of Wikipedia considers to be "twin cities" and not what we want them to be; if that means fixing the lead to include cities like the two Bristols or the two Texarkanas, then we should do that rather than remove cities from the list that a plethora of other sources calls Twin Cities. -- Jayron 32 23:22, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I agree, maybe we should step away from the "geographical proximity only" definition and make it a broader one to include twin cities like Vienna and Bratislava. -- Irmingard 07:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Surely Kansas City, Missouri, and Kansas City, Kansas should be included in the North America section? Rcsprinter (state) @ 12:18, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Is there a general demonym for a resident of twin cities? Having previously lived in Minneapolis/St. Paul, I've frequently heard "Twin Citian" but I'm not sure if that is only used locally. 2620:0:1000:330A:1260:4BFF:FE68:1D1D ( talk) 21:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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