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Why does the town of Echinos have a Turkish name next to it? Maybe we should start including the original Greek names of towns and cities in Turkey for the sake of fairness? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.12.180.1 ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 10 December 2006.
There is already an article called Muslim minority of Greece. Mitsos 19:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
There are no Turks in Western Thrace, they are Greek Muslims, some of them Turcophone. All of them are Greek citizens and their ancestors are Greeks who converted to Islam, and not Turks. -Alexius Comnenus
I agree it must be removed Kreatobergas 13:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
crypto turks?ahahahahaha....if they are crypto turkd in Thessaloniki,what about the crypto greeks in turkey? -- 217.78.232.43 ( talk) 08:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
we are pomaks, citizens of greece not turks. Like Sabaetin karahoja said, we are pomaks not turks! Dont insult us1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.74.251.24 ( talk) 14:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
According to Bulgarian nationalist sources, Echinos is inhabited by Pomaks who speak a Bulgarian dialect at home, so I'd really like to see some evidence that the people in this photo are indeed Turks. Or if that's impossible, please remove it. Todor → Bozhinov 13:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
there is a boy here in my lab now his name is gürkan. but accourding to bulgarian national sourses his name should be bocinov.
There seems to be some confusion here over the 120,000 vs 98,000 figure. See this report on Religious freedom in Greece, which is quoting the official report cited in this article (in footnote 4 of that text):
This decrease isn't really surprising to me considering that 46,638 (according to official estimates - the true figure could be much higher) Thracian Muslims lost their citizenship due to the (now abolished) Article 19 of the Greek Citizenship Code.-- Tekleni 09:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
You know, and I know, what Article 19 (originally enacted to denaturalize not Turkish or Muslim but the Slavic minority) is. But all the article says is "According to the Greek government, between 1955 and 1998, approximately 60,000 individuals were deprived of their citizenship under Article 19." How is a reader to know what that means, or (for example) that an ethnic-Turkish migrant worker from Greece working in Germany, a guy named Ramadanoglou, had is Greek citizenship nullified on grounds of its abandonment? (Of course the Greek Government backed down when it was threatened with a proceeding under EU law: that is perhaps the one circumstance where EU law arguably trumps national law on citizenship.)
Anyway, if Article 19 is to be brought up in the text it ought to be explained. The more so since it's been (as noted above) abrogated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andygx ( talk • contribs) 19:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
How can they be so violated and not allowed to import newspapers and books from Turkey and they are so well represented in the national elections? This article heavily contradicts itself and I therefore consider it heavily biased. In all it is pure propaganda and it must be addressed. ∫lnxdx =xlnx - x + c 17:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
Why does the town of Echinos have a Turkish name next to it? Maybe we should start including the original Greek names of towns and cities in Turkey for the sake of fairness? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.12.180.1 ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 10 December 2006.
There is already an article called Muslim minority of Greece. Mitsos 19:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
There are no Turks in Western Thrace, they are Greek Muslims, some of them Turcophone. All of them are Greek citizens and their ancestors are Greeks who converted to Islam, and not Turks. -Alexius Comnenus
I agree it must be removed Kreatobergas 13:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
crypto turks?ahahahahaha....if they are crypto turkd in Thessaloniki,what about the crypto greeks in turkey? -- 217.78.232.43 ( talk) 08:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
we are pomaks, citizens of greece not turks. Like Sabaetin karahoja said, we are pomaks not turks! Dont insult us1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.74.251.24 ( talk) 14:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
According to Bulgarian nationalist sources, Echinos is inhabited by Pomaks who speak a Bulgarian dialect at home, so I'd really like to see some evidence that the people in this photo are indeed Turks. Or if that's impossible, please remove it. Todor → Bozhinov 13:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
there is a boy here in my lab now his name is gürkan. but accourding to bulgarian national sourses his name should be bocinov.
There seems to be some confusion here over the 120,000 vs 98,000 figure. See this report on Religious freedom in Greece, which is quoting the official report cited in this article (in footnote 4 of that text):
This decrease isn't really surprising to me considering that 46,638 (according to official estimates - the true figure could be much higher) Thracian Muslims lost their citizenship due to the (now abolished) Article 19 of the Greek Citizenship Code.-- Tekleni 09:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
You know, and I know, what Article 19 (originally enacted to denaturalize not Turkish or Muslim but the Slavic minority) is. But all the article says is "According to the Greek government, between 1955 and 1998, approximately 60,000 individuals were deprived of their citizenship under Article 19." How is a reader to know what that means, or (for example) that an ethnic-Turkish migrant worker from Greece working in Germany, a guy named Ramadanoglou, had is Greek citizenship nullified on grounds of its abandonment? (Of course the Greek Government backed down when it was threatened with a proceeding under EU law: that is perhaps the one circumstance where EU law arguably trumps national law on citizenship.)
Anyway, if Article 19 is to be brought up in the text it ought to be explained. The more so since it's been (as noted above) abrogated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andygx ( talk • contribs) 19:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
How can they be so violated and not allowed to import newspapers and books from Turkey and they are so well represented in the national elections? This article heavily contradicts itself and I therefore consider it heavily biased. In all it is pure propaganda and it must be addressed. ∫lnxdx =xlnx - x + c 17:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)