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I am the biological daughter of Tupac shakur I have verified X and Instagram accounts @lisajanehargreaves and I also have my medical records confirming my blood results. I am of African American origin. Lisa jane Hargreaves ( talk) 18:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
This is a continuation of the discussion here and here. Based on my review of sources, Tupac is indeed a song-writer and that should be in the WP:LEDE. I believe it has been in the LEDE for quite sometime, so the removal is not justified.-- David Tornheim ( talk) 04:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This is a continuation of the discussion here:
I disagree with your reasoning and will continue to remove songwriter from the lead. Just because he wrote his own songs does not mean it was a "main occupation" of his or should be considered an occupation that he made money from. You're saying the fact other music artists don't have this in the lead of their article doesn't matter, and I also disagree. So therefore until settled by another editor, this will be considered an edit war because I will continue to remove your edits. Darrencdm1988 ( talk) 00:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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This is a continuation of the discussion here:
Hi, I saw that you took songwriter out of Tupac's lead and added actor. Actor is not one of Tupac's most important occupations, while songwriter is. Also because songwriter is about his music, his main activity. It's okay as it says. There is no need to change the lead. His main activity was music, not being an actor. Actor is already reported in the occupations part. The fact that it's not written in the beginning to other artists has nothing to do with it, songwriter is one of Tupac's main occupations and it has to do with his music. Songwriters and rappers are the two main occupations, so they must remain so. Actor is a secondary occupation. As we have already written in several threads on this page. I don't see what it has to do with the fact that they didn't write it to other artists, so we should take songwriters away from all artists. Pier1999 ( talk) 00:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
--END OF DISCUSSION #2 COPIED FROM USER TALK PAGE--
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Don't know if this is important enough to mention, but there's a web page that can be used to have Tupac's voice dubbed: [1] I don't see how he can have given his permission for his voice to be used, but maybe his heirs did. WiseWoman ( talk) 20:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
@ HumansRightsIsCool https://theconversation.com/in-tupacs-life-the-struggles-and-triumphs-of-a-generation-79266 "Moviegoers this summer have enjoyed “All Eyez on Me,” the biopic of Tupac Shakur, one of the most iconic and influential musicians of the 20th century." Articles written by Jeffrey O.G. Ogbar, professor of history and popular music at the University of Connecticut. The article describes Tupac as one of the most influential musical artists of the 20th century, does not mention "one of the African-American artists." You have to stick to the sources Pier1999 ( talk) 20:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
@ Cena332 In my opinion it is useless to write that in the final part of his career he did Gangsta rap, it is already written on the page. Otherwise we would have to write in the lead that he was a political and conscious rapper. But it's useless, it's already written in the genres and on the page Pier1999 ( talk) 02:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
@ Confunxion There is no need to write in the lead: "one of the hip hop artists of his generation", because it is already written: "one of the most influential rappers of all time." Let's avoid repetitions that can lead to edit wars. Pier1999 ( talk) 06:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Rappers; Biggie Smalls, Nas and Jay-Z leads do not start out as they are "African-American rappers". It’s that they are "American rappers". 2Pac we know he is African-American, you can see that in the Infobox, This doesn’t need to be self-explained, Your making to much of an issue out of this over nothing. -- Cena332 ( talk) 01:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
I suggest removing Makaveli as a stage name from the lead, and keep it in the other names section; as he never performed under the name Makaveli. Tupac's last concert was The House of Blues on July 4, 1996, and there he was still introduced as 2Pac. Cena332 ( talk) 02:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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Billy Garland (Ex Black Panther) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 07 January 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Tupac Shakur. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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I am the biological daughter of Tupac shakur I have verified X and Instagram accounts @lisajanehargreaves and I also have my medical records confirming my blood results. I am of African American origin. Lisa jane Hargreaves ( talk) 18:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
This is a continuation of the discussion here and here. Based on my review of sources, Tupac is indeed a song-writer and that should be in the WP:LEDE. I believe it has been in the LEDE for quite sometime, so the removal is not justified.-- David Tornheim ( talk) 04:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This is a continuation of the discussion here:
I disagree with your reasoning and will continue to remove songwriter from the lead. Just because he wrote his own songs does not mean it was a "main occupation" of his or should be considered an occupation that he made money from. You're saying the fact other music artists don't have this in the lead of their article doesn't matter, and I also disagree. So therefore until settled by another editor, this will be considered an edit war because I will continue to remove your edits. Darrencdm1988 ( talk) 00:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
--END OF DISCUSSION #1 COPIED FROM USER TALK PAGE--
Copied here by -- David Tornheim ( talk) 04:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This is a continuation of the discussion here:
Hi, I saw that you took songwriter out of Tupac's lead and added actor. Actor is not one of Tupac's most important occupations, while songwriter is. Also because songwriter is about his music, his main activity. It's okay as it says. There is no need to change the lead. His main activity was music, not being an actor. Actor is already reported in the occupations part. The fact that it's not written in the beginning to other artists has nothing to do with it, songwriter is one of Tupac's main occupations and it has to do with his music. Songwriters and rappers are the two main occupations, so they must remain so. Actor is a secondary occupation. As we have already written in several threads on this page. I don't see what it has to do with the fact that they didn't write it to other artists, so we should take songwriters away from all artists. Pier1999 ( talk) 00:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
--END OF DISCUSSION #2 COPIED FROM USER TALK PAGE--
Copied here by -- David Tornheim ( talk) 04:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Don't know if this is important enough to mention, but there's a web page that can be used to have Tupac's voice dubbed: [1] I don't see how he can have given his permission for his voice to be used, but maybe his heirs did. WiseWoman ( talk) 20:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
@ HumansRightsIsCool https://theconversation.com/in-tupacs-life-the-struggles-and-triumphs-of-a-generation-79266 "Moviegoers this summer have enjoyed “All Eyez on Me,” the biopic of Tupac Shakur, one of the most iconic and influential musicians of the 20th century." Articles written by Jeffrey O.G. Ogbar, professor of history and popular music at the University of Connecticut. The article describes Tupac as one of the most influential musical artists of the 20th century, does not mention "one of the African-American artists." You have to stick to the sources Pier1999 ( talk) 20:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
@ Cena332 In my opinion it is useless to write that in the final part of his career he did Gangsta rap, it is already written on the page. Otherwise we would have to write in the lead that he was a political and conscious rapper. But it's useless, it's already written in the genres and on the page Pier1999 ( talk) 02:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
@ Confunxion There is no need to write in the lead: "one of the hip hop artists of his generation", because it is already written: "one of the most influential rappers of all time." Let's avoid repetitions that can lead to edit wars. Pier1999 ( talk) 06:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Rappers; Biggie Smalls, Nas and Jay-Z leads do not start out as they are "African-American rappers". It’s that they are "American rappers". 2Pac we know he is African-American, you can see that in the Infobox, This doesn’t need to be self-explained, Your making to much of an issue out of this over nothing. -- Cena332 ( talk) 01:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
I suggest removing Makaveli as a stage name from the lead, and keep it in the other names section; as he never performed under the name Makaveli. Tupac's last concert was The House of Blues on July 4, 1996, and there he was still introduced as 2Pac. Cena332 ( talk) 02:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)