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The population density does not seem correct. Normally, the density is less per km² than m². I calculated the density to be 801.58 km² and 2122 m². Because I do not know these to be the correct numbers, I do not want to change the main page. I could not find any information backing these figures, so if the correct numbers are found please add them. 204.117.197.4 15:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)cmarie
Eh, another list. I won't delete it yet as I want to assume good faith on behalf of the anon contributor. However, I don't see a need for a list of Tulsa's tallest buildings as no other city article has one. I won't be against including a parenthetical description of a few of Tulsa's tallest buildings (since Tulsa's tallest building is also Oklahoma's tallest building) in another section such as, oh, I don't know, cityscape? I'd like to hear some opinions from other contributors as well before I take action.-- NMajdan• talk 16:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Tallest Buildings
Building | Height in feet | Stories |
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One Williams Center | 667 feet | 52 |
Cityplex | 648 feet | 60 |
First Place Tower | 516 feet | 41 |
Mid Continent Tower | 513 feet | 36 |
Bank of America - Tulsa | 412 feet | 32 |
320 South Boston Bldg. | 400 feet | 22 |
110 West 7th Bldg. | 388 feet | 28 |
University Club Tower | 377 feet | 32 |
Cityplex West | 348 feet | 30 |
Philtower | 343 feet | 24 |
Liberty Tower - Tulsa | 254 feet | 23 |
Williams Center | *** | 23 |
Boulder Tower | 254 feet | 15 |
Mayo Hotel | 252 feet | 18 |
First National Bank Bldg. | 250 feet | 20 |
Cityplex East | 248 feet | 20 |
One Warren Place | *** | 20 |
410 West 7th | *** | 20 |
450 West 7th | *** | 20 |
Two Warren Place | *** | 19 |
Remington Tower | *** | 18 |
DoubleTree Hotel | *** | 18 |
Oneok Place | *** | 17 |
Williams Center | *** | 17 |
Yorktown | *** | 16 |
Williams Technology Center | *** | 15 |
Warren Clinic | *** | 15 |
Thompson Bldg. | 215 feet | 15 |
Adams Building | 192 feet | 13 |
Petroluem Club Tower | 192 feet | 16 |
Amoco Building - Tulsa | 167 feet | 14 |
Most of the buildings are empty or have high vacancy rates because the oil companies left, put that in the article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.187.154.33 ( talk • contribs)
(edit conflict) Among other edits, 75.40.200.220 ( talk · contribs) re-added this list to the article. I did a revert, but retained their edits to Tulsa in popular culture. -- Kralizec! ( talk) 21:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
http://www.tulsaworld.com/BusinessStory.asp?ID=070130_Bu_E1_Offic45349 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.187.154.33 ( talk • contribs) 11:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
On an episode of I Love Lucy, Tulsa is mentioned.
This is possibly the most tenuous and contrived entry I have ever seen on Wikipedia. I haven't removed it from the article as I haven't seen the I Love Lucy episode (nor the series actually) so if anyone knows if the "mention" is notable or just one in passing by a character then please note it here. 172.141.159.129 00:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
What about the Motel 6 commercial where they stated that their rooms are much better than "visiting relatives in Tulsa?"
While I agree that the second-youngest Playboy model in history, Tulsa University freshman Haydn Porter does not rise to encyclopedic importance worthy of inclusion in this article, I enjoyed clicking on the Wikilinks for the few hours that they were visible yesterday before being reverted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.79.255 ( talk) 16:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
How this article say that Tulsa is the most inland ocean going port in the US? First, there are many cities further inland that have ports on the Mississippi river system (St. Paul, MN for instance), Second the depth of the waterway to Tulsa is only 9 feet and handles barge traffic, which I would hardly call ocean-going. The official website for the Port of Catoosa does not make this claim.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandonwilson ( talk • contribs)
Left out is any mention of railroads in either Tulsa's history or its present-day transportation system. Luring railroads into Tulsa was a key component of the early Tulsa boosters' agenda, and the tracks of the Saint Louis-San Francisco (Frisco) Railroad are what determined both the orientation of downtown Tulsa and the original dividing line between north and south Tulsa. At one point, Tulsa was served by not only the Frisco, but also the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe, the Missouri-Kansas-Texas (Katy), and the Midland Valley lines, and one of its art deco showpieces downtown is the now-rennovated Tulsa Union Depot.
Today, the Burlington Northern Santa Fe operates Cherokee Yard--one of the largest sorting yards in the entire BNSF system--just to the west of US-75 where it passes along Southwest Boulevard. The Union Pacific operates a much smaller yard near 51st and Garnett. In addition, short lines such as the Tulsa-Sapulpa-Union Railroad and the Sand Springs Railroad also serve Tulsa's surface transportation needs. Randall123 22:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Jeez, how much info belongs in the article? This article was longer that the article for NYC!! How is that possible? Too much information about Avenues going North-South, Streets East-West, Long lists of "attractions" (lol), all chest puffing and fluffing, look at the NYC article, short, simple, dont try to put in different things such as "Tourists Attractions", we have no Attractions or Tourists.The article is fine the way it is—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.187.154.33 ( talk • contribs)
The street network needs to be deleted or seriously shortened too. I guess it was a bit contradicting, In other words dont make the article any longer than it is now.
What happened to the list?
I reverted several edits because I felt adding local pseudo-celebrities and bands that fail WP:BAND would further degrade an already below-average article. If the editor who made the changes wishes to defend his edits, please feel free to do so. After all, nobody owns this article.↔ NMajdan• talk 17:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
This section has gotten long again... Shouldn't the Cityscape section be a short summary of the The Neighborhoods of Tulsa, Oklahoma article? Isn't that why there even is a Neighborhoods of Tulsa article? Well, the Cityscape section has gotten to be very long and repetitive of the Neighborhoods of Tulsa, Oklahoma article all over again. We should shorten it and combine some material from the current Cityscape section into the The Neighborhoods of Tulsa, Oklahoma article. I think we should shorten it to maybe a few paragraphs, or, at the very least, less than half the section's current length. What do you guys think? Okiefromokla 21:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I have done a lot of editing, as you might see by looking at the history lately. The Tulsa article may seem considerably different than it did before, maybe a lot better, hopefully. I shortened it a bit and condensed a lot of stuff, adding a few important things and changing the picture layout and even adding pictures. Everyone likes pictures. What I really think the article needs now is more citations and a lot more. We have less than 15 right now. More documentation and more facts are needed, but lets concentrate on not making the article any longer but simply rewriting or deleting things that arent really needed. Shortening and calrifying will make all the difference. And please, I stress: please no more useless information like listing every single park in the city of Tulsa PLEASE. Okiefromokla 06:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Sunday April 15th's business section of the Tulsa World highlighted this article - and basically said it was good, accurate, and trustworthy. The editorial is here http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=070414_5_E1_spanc51254 .
You all who have worked on this article should be proud. 70.128.100.8 16:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
In light of the good review by the Tulsa World and recent edits, maybe its getting close to reassessing this article as a "good article" on the scale. The only real problem I see with this article not meeting Good Article standards is perhaps a lack of references and citations, but I have added many citations recently. The article is also fairly comprehensive, well written, has a good assortment of pictures, and has recently become more factually verifiable with additional references. Can I get some input here? If not, I'm going to go ahead and submit this article for "Good Article" status, and maybe add a few more references in the intern. Okiefromokla 20:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I striked out some of those things NMajdan listed that I have just accomplished and I left notes for people to look at if they want. (See above list)... I can envision such problems like how the History and Government sections can't get any bigger without original research as their main articles are very skimpy. I suggest the priorities for this article right now be more references, and since the article is bigger we desperately need more pictures, like a climate relevant picture, a picture of city hall under government, and a transportation-relevant picture such on of the Port of Catoosa, a Tulsa bus stop, or perferrably, if anyone has a picture oh a highway interchange where you can see downtown in the background. That would be great. Just some suggestions, you know. References and pictures and expansion of the Government section are big priorities in my mind, as well as improper spacing of reference marks... again, all of that is listed in the above list. I don't know if we need a peer review just yet since now we know what we need to get done. When the majority of these suggestions are completed then maybe we can go for Good Article status at the least. However, have you seen the San Jose article? This Tulsa article is better, in my opinion... Okiefromokla 23:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I ran AndyZ's automated peer review on the article and here are some suggestions:
The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.
between a number and the unit of measurement. For example, instead of 12 miles, use 12 miles, which when you are editing the page, should look like: 12 miles.
[?]You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, ↔ NMajdan• talk 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so there aren't any feature city articles that have a massive external links section, and frankly it was annoying the heck out of me to have a million external links of every single museum, preforming arts group and newspaper mentioned in the article. So I deleted all but the official city website, visitor info, the chamber of commerce and vision 2025. I meant to copy and paste all the deleted links into here but I accidentily copied something else in the mean time... sorry! Of course, if somebody has a problem with not having an eternal links section the size of Alaska then you can always look under the article's history to see what I deleted. Okiefromokla 03:04, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
I changed back the pictures in the geography section to their original pixelation without realizing that you had already changed them to the standard 180 px, NMajdan. I'm not trying to "own" this article or anything so I wanted to discuss it in here - do you think we should take the pixelation out of all the pictures to make them all the default? (without specifying, it goes to 180px or somewhere around there). I think it looks nice to have them all basically the same size on the article so let me know what you think. I just changed them back because I thought it looked better, but thats what the discussion page is for. Oh, and if by any miracle someone else looks at this and wants to say anything then I'm not just talking to NMajdan, of course. :P Okiefromokla 15:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Just to update, if you haven't noticed: the Tulsa article now has more references than all of the featured city articles except San Francisco, Houston and Detroit. That's five out of eight of the feature articles that Tulsa has more citations! If Tulsa became a feature article right now - it would (arguably) be better organized, more coherent, better cited, better written, and more comprehensive than several of the other feature city articles - namely San Jose, Ann Arbor, and Marshall, Tx, specifically. I really think this article has a chance at being a feature article - I'm just waiting for more takers on the peer review. Sigh... Okiefromokla 02:16, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I noticed a new paragraph regarding a new statue was added to the lead. Per WP:LEAD (namely WP:LEAD#Suggestions), the lead should be an overview of the content of the article. Everything mentioned in the intro should be expanded on, or at least mentioned, in the rest of the article. The new addition should be moved from the lead to somewhere in the article itself.↔ NMajdan• talk 20:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I finally feel like I've done all I can do, and after nitpicking around quite a bit with picture captions and grammer and punctuation, I went ahead an nominated it for Featured Status a day early of the "Around May 1st" agreement. Don't worry, my hopes aren't up, though. Okiefromokla 21:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
A FA reviewer said the licence on the Tulsa Race Riot picture is probably not good because it's only eligable for public domain in the United States, but that another licence that would be universal and may be eligable for the same picture. Unfortunently, I have no idea how to track that information down or change the licence. I would greatly, greatly appreciate it if you could look into that, NMajdan. That picture was already on Wikipedia, but I havent had much luck finding Tulsa Race Riot pictures online that weren't copyrighted, as I don't know how to find if a picture is eligable for public domian. Any help in finding another eligable race riot picture would also be greatly appreciated, if the current picture can't be validated, thanks. Okiefromokla 02:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Sandy's issues with the citations are justified. I should have caught it earlier, so I apologize. There are many issues with the citations. Here are some that I spotted while I was fixing some: As Sandy pointed out, if your source is a news publisher (New York Times, Daily Oklahoman (NewsOK.com), Oklahoma Daily, Tulsa World, etc), then you need to use the {{ cite news}} citation template. The "work" field is not for the author, its if there are multiple works inside of the individual source. The author should go in the "first" and "last" field. The "date" field is the wikilinked date of publication. Only use if you know the full date. If you only know the copyright year (and its specifically stated, don't guess), then you use the "year" field. You don't need to use the "page" field usually, unless your source is a multi-paged PDF document. Web sites are sorted with pages. That's all I remember seeing. I've fixed a couple sources and I'll continue to do so as time permits. Let me know if you have any other questions.↔ NMajdan• talk 13:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
You know what would be great? A portion of main street has been renamed "Avenue of the sister cities" and on a street corner there is a pretty cool looking pole with signs pointing towards all of Tulsa's sister cities and the distance they lie from downtown. Its also in a really nice looking renovated area of downtown if the actual avenue could be caught in the background. If anybody is downtown be sure to stop by and take a few pictures and we'll use the best one in the law and government#sister cities section. No rush though. Okiefromokla• talk 23:10, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I added two more pictures to the Commons today. One is another pic of the BOk Center under construction. Same view as the other one only 6 months later. Another is a much better (in my opinion) photo of City Hall. Both can be seen at commons:Tulsa, Oklahoma#Buildings. I haven't yet gotten around to looking for the signs mentioned above but I'll get to it.↔ NMajdan• talk 00:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
You never told me this would be this hard. This latest person to give a long list of requests seems to not have read the article very well. He seems to want to make the article what it used to be - an excessive list of every single detail and place in Tulsa. This person also seems to be flat out wrong in his complaints - for example, he says half of the history section is from 1980 to present - this is completely not true - its about 1/10 to 2/10 of the history section. I left a comment on his page but what he needs to do is take a look at the other FA cities because most of his requests would degrade from the consice information and overview feel of the article. Its extremely frusterating when people suggest things that are not neccisary or say things are wrong about the article that are not. While some of his requests are reasonable, most of them are not. His requests are not neccisary for a FA quality article. Am I the only one who feels that this latest long list of demands is not good!? Okiefromokla• talk 18:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I think its great to have a picture of some aspect of Tulsa religion in the demographics section, as it now talks about religion. I'm not too familiar with licensing protocol on Wikipedia but the prayer tower picture I put up appears to be accepted for use - provided that the photographer is credited. The photographer is credited in the talk page for the picture, but if this means that he must also be credited in the caption of the picture on the actual article, I don't think i want the picture on the page. If you know about this either way, please let me know. (Or if the author must be credited in the caption, please just delete the picture, as I probably won't be able to do it tomorrow.) In the mean time, it looks nice. Thanks Okiefromokla• talk 02:28, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The new heath care section has a picture Cancer Treatment Center's building. I work at St. Francis and, weather permitting, should be able to get a decent picture of it by this weekend (I work Fri, Sat, Sun). I always license my images as straight GFDL, so there would no license problems. As the largest hospital, and as a primary care hospital, I think that St. Francis would be a better choice for an image. (As the oldest hospital St. John would be a good choice also.) However, I recognize that I might be biased and won't insert a new picture without some feedback here.
On a different note, should Tulsa Regional (Or whatever it is called these days) and the specialty hospitals be mentioned (Orthopedic Hospital of Oklahoma, and Spine)? Dsmdgold 03:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The medical section starts out "In 2005, there were .921 hospital beds per capita in the city." With a population of 387,807, this translates to 357,170 hospital beds in Tulsa, which is bit larger than reality. Is this suppose to read 921 beds, or 1 bed per 921 residents, or what? Dsmdgold 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The caption for the Tulsa movie poster read "The 1949 movie "Tulsa" played on the drama of the Tulsa Race Riot." I haven't seen the movie, but the IMDB plot summary reads:
So I have changed the caption to read "The 1949 movie "Tulsa" played on the drama of the Tulsa oil boom." Dsmdgold 14:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I think the part on the Pittsburgh Penguins coming to Tulsa is unnecessary, seeing how they are building a new arena in Pittsburgh. Also I believe that gaming should stay in this section. Great job on the article. ( Tulsaschoolboard 21:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC))
Let me know what you think about the new OK Aquarium picture in the outdoor recreation section. Its taken at night so I was reluctant to use yet another night picture since the article already has a few. But I thought the article would benefit from another picture depicting outdoor recreation. Again, let me know if you want to keep it in there, or, if you can, please supply a better outdoor recreation picture! Okiefromokla• talk 19:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
PS:its not in the article anymore but I still want a better outdoor recreation picture if anybody has it. Here is the OK Aquarium picture: [7] Okiefromokla• talk 23:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations are definitely in order to OkiefromOkla. Great work on the article! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nmajdan ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
...does exist. Its just not on some maps and there are no signs that say I-444 downtown. But it does exist. Take a look at this traffic map from the City of Tulsa website.↔ NMajdan• talk 13:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'll be. Twenty something years in Tulsa, and I had no idea. From the Interstate 444 article it appears to follow the routes of 64 and 75, which, in my opinion, serve this article better for deliniating the borders of downtown, as anyone looking for 444 in Tulsa or on many maps is going to be very confused. But, if you feel 444 is more accurate, that's fine although an unsigned disclaimer before it and a wikilink to the article about it would help. - steventity 13:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Both are true, but Interstate 444 does exist [8]. It overlaps both highway 64 and highway 75 forming the southern and eastern legs of the inner dispersal loop. As you can see from the website I just mentioned, there is a map showing quite clearly the confusing overlap throughout the entire inner dispersal loop - Interstate 244 overlaps 64, 51, and 412. However, Interstate 444 does exist, and because of the fact that it is an interstate, I think it should be mentioned above the rest. Or they all could be mentioned, but that would get a little wordy. I didnt change it back, and I won't unless theres some more discussion on the subject. Okiefromokla• talk 22:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Is there any desire at all to create a wikiproject for things relating to the Tulsa Metropolitan Area? Input? Okiefromokla• talk 17:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
If there is ever a need to delete a part of this article due to its length, it should be something that doesn't take away from the article's current feature quality. Therefore I think its important to discuss a portion of the article if we were to delete it, and if it ever came to that, I nominate this paragraph from the infrastructure section (see article for unabridged version of paragraph, which is much longer):
"Through its entire duration through Tulsa, historic Route 66 is a drivable road with motels and restaurants reminiscent of the route's heyday era. Interstate 44 and the Skelly Drive Bypass crosses Tulsa through midtown from east and west, while its sister highways, Interstate 244 and Interstate 444, make up the inner-dispersal loop surrounding downtown and wrap through the northern part of the city, . . . The Creek Turnpike splits away from Highway 169 from the South and Interstate 44 from the East, bypassing most of the city of Tulsa and the suburb of Broken Arrow, eventually reconnecting with Interstate 44 in Catoosa to the east and Jenks to the west."
We could create a new article entitled "Transportation in Tulsa" and use this paragraph as a base to start the article, as it is simply a description of the highways in Tulsa. Such an article could also include descriptions of the roads, which was on a previous version of the Tulsa article that can be recovered. Please give us your thoughts on the eventual deletion of this paragraph, or nominate another part of the article, thanks. Okiefromokla• talk 21:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Little insignificants like Interstate 444 etc makes this article appear wordy, and poorly thought out, not every little detail about Tulsa has to fit into the article. There is absolutely no reason that the Tulsa article has to be longer than the New York City article. It is bogged down, so if I deleted the garbage, people would revert, so what to do?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.187.154.33 ( talk • contribs)
In "Arts and theatre" and "outdoor recreation", I deleted detailed descriptions of philbrook and gilcrease as well as some similar descriptions of certain parks. Hopefully its more like an overview in those sections now. Please let me know if you object to these deletions in any way, or feel it takes from the article's featured quality. Okiefromokla• talk 16:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The addition today regarding planned expansions of the trail systems was removed because the sources provided did not have the information supposedly being cited. One source was a map and the other was a webpage and neither had what needed to be cited in the article. However, I would like to give the editor a chance to provide accurate sources if he or she would like to re-add the information. This is a featured article so lets make sure information is sourced corretly. Okiefromokla• talk 22:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm a wikipedia noob, and I wouldn't dare touch the Tulsa article, but I was wondering if you guys think there's any value in adding my pic (I'm a bit biased) to the article somewhere. Tim Morgan 15:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, so I went looking for a source so i can cite the 46th largest city statement, but I found that according to census.gov, Tulsa is ranked 44 in population. That got me thinking -- in the lead, are we referring to size on the map, population, or what? Tim Morgan 21:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
There wasn't enough space in the edit summary to explain why I deleted the recent addition so I will do it here. For one, the article is very long already - any longer than it is right now and we have a serious problem. In addition, it was unsourced. I ask that information of that kind be sourced - if you're obviously looking at something in order to write the correct information in the article, just take a second to cite what you're looking at, please. If you're too lazy, even just put a url in brackets like this: [url], and I or someone else will cite it correctly. Secondly, the same paragraph was put in twice - the lead, which was not appropriate (Please review WP:LEAD), and also the outdoor rec section. Since this is just one plan for the river in a long line of river plans that haven't materialized, I felt it wasn't noteworthy to put in an encyclopedia article about the city of Tulsa just yet. (I did move it to the history of Tulsa, Oklahoma article, though). However, when this plan is more concrete than simply "having the mayor's support" and something is going to happen, then a brief one (or two) sentence mention could be added somewhere along with a source. The more detailed description of the plan should be in a separate article, such as History of Tulsa, Oklahoma, or some other appropriate article, since, again, the article is already too long. If anyone disagrees with me, by all means, speak up. Okiefromokla• talk 18:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Could someone please look over the article closely and discuss some specific suggestions on what to remove to make this article shorter? My goal is to get this article down to 85KB or below, but the key is to do it without detracting from its quality. Please, don't just say "shorten history section"... I need specific examples of what to remove. Lets make sure the deletions add to this article's quality. Thanks! Okiefromokla• talk 18:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
I went through and took care of most of that stuff I have been talking about, and shortened the article to 86 KB while actually increasing the number of references. It doesn't actually look a whole lot different but I am getting more comfortable with its size now. Let me know what you think. Okiefromokla• talk 02:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
I haven't seen a scrollbar on a reflist on any featured article. And I couldn't find anything on a Wikipedia guideline page about it. So Is it proper or generally considered acceptable? Okiefromokla• talk 23:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I have some reservations about this whole situation and have had reservations of mentioning it since the move was first brought up:
So the question I ask is, is the caption is enough, or do you want to keep the mention of the move in the article? Okiefromokla• talk 22:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
This is an excellent article. Since it's a featured article, I don't want to change it significantly, and I notice that you are wishing to remove some parts to make it smaller. Is there any thought about adding a famous natives section? I was wanting to add Doug Marlette to the article since he lived in Tulsa.-- Gloriamarie 18:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this sentence in the lead:
The Tulsa Port of Catoosa, at the head of the McClellan-Kerr Arkansas River Navigation System, is the most inland riverport in the U.S. with access to international waterways. [1] [2]
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The first reference states it as the most inland riverport. However, I noticed that Tulsa Port of Catoosa's website bills itself as "one of the largest, most inland river-ports in the United States!". Is it the most inland port? P.Haney 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I changed the term "Caucasian" to White, as some people may find Caucasian, offensive, as it implies someone is from the Caucasus Mountain region. Thanks. Iamanadam ( talk) 01:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Not a single mention of The buried Belvedere?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.181.252 ( talk) 22:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
As of 2015-16, the city of Tulsa is less than 50% White: an estimated 18% Latino, 16% Black, 10% Asian and 10% Native American (there could be 15% if you include part-Native Americans), plus 12% mixed race, 5% Middle Eastern (there was a wave of Arab and Iranian immigrants to Tulsa, partly due to the oil industry) and 2% Pacific Islander of Marshallese origin (see Marshall Islands). The city has many Burmese, Vietnamese and Hmong immigrants lately, and until 2010, Mexican immigration was in high levels. About 5 or 6 thousand Jews live in Tulsa, where they have a local museum of Jewish Arts and History. 2605:E000:FDCA:4200:24F3:157C:31F4:1568 ( talk) 13:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
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The population density does not seem correct. Normally, the density is less per km² than m². I calculated the density to be 801.58 km² and 2122 m². Because I do not know these to be the correct numbers, I do not want to change the main page. I could not find any information backing these figures, so if the correct numbers are found please add them. 204.117.197.4 15:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)cmarie
Eh, another list. I won't delete it yet as I want to assume good faith on behalf of the anon contributor. However, I don't see a need for a list of Tulsa's tallest buildings as no other city article has one. I won't be against including a parenthetical description of a few of Tulsa's tallest buildings (since Tulsa's tallest building is also Oklahoma's tallest building) in another section such as, oh, I don't know, cityscape? I'd like to hear some opinions from other contributors as well before I take action.-- NMajdan• talk 16:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Tallest Buildings
Building | Height in feet | Stories |
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One Williams Center | 667 feet | 52 |
Cityplex | 648 feet | 60 |
First Place Tower | 516 feet | 41 |
Mid Continent Tower | 513 feet | 36 |
Bank of America - Tulsa | 412 feet | 32 |
320 South Boston Bldg. | 400 feet | 22 |
110 West 7th Bldg. | 388 feet | 28 |
University Club Tower | 377 feet | 32 |
Cityplex West | 348 feet | 30 |
Philtower | 343 feet | 24 |
Liberty Tower - Tulsa | 254 feet | 23 |
Williams Center | *** | 23 |
Boulder Tower | 254 feet | 15 |
Mayo Hotel | 252 feet | 18 |
First National Bank Bldg. | 250 feet | 20 |
Cityplex East | 248 feet | 20 |
One Warren Place | *** | 20 |
410 West 7th | *** | 20 |
450 West 7th | *** | 20 |
Two Warren Place | *** | 19 |
Remington Tower | *** | 18 |
DoubleTree Hotel | *** | 18 |
Oneok Place | *** | 17 |
Williams Center | *** | 17 |
Yorktown | *** | 16 |
Williams Technology Center | *** | 15 |
Warren Clinic | *** | 15 |
Thompson Bldg. | 215 feet | 15 |
Adams Building | 192 feet | 13 |
Petroluem Club Tower | 192 feet | 16 |
Amoco Building - Tulsa | 167 feet | 14 |
Most of the buildings are empty or have high vacancy rates because the oil companies left, put that in the article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.187.154.33 ( talk • contribs)
(edit conflict) Among other edits, 75.40.200.220 ( talk · contribs) re-added this list to the article. I did a revert, but retained their edits to Tulsa in popular culture. -- Kralizec! ( talk) 21:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
http://www.tulsaworld.com/BusinessStory.asp?ID=070130_Bu_E1_Offic45349 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.187.154.33 ( talk • contribs) 11:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
On an episode of I Love Lucy, Tulsa is mentioned.
This is possibly the most tenuous and contrived entry I have ever seen on Wikipedia. I haven't removed it from the article as I haven't seen the I Love Lucy episode (nor the series actually) so if anyone knows if the "mention" is notable or just one in passing by a character then please note it here. 172.141.159.129 00:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
What about the Motel 6 commercial where they stated that their rooms are much better than "visiting relatives in Tulsa?"
While I agree that the second-youngest Playboy model in history, Tulsa University freshman Haydn Porter does not rise to encyclopedic importance worthy of inclusion in this article, I enjoyed clicking on the Wikilinks for the few hours that they were visible yesterday before being reverted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.79.255 ( talk) 16:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
How this article say that Tulsa is the most inland ocean going port in the US? First, there are many cities further inland that have ports on the Mississippi river system (St. Paul, MN for instance), Second the depth of the waterway to Tulsa is only 9 feet and handles barge traffic, which I would hardly call ocean-going. The official website for the Port of Catoosa does not make this claim.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandonwilson ( talk • contribs)
Left out is any mention of railroads in either Tulsa's history or its present-day transportation system. Luring railroads into Tulsa was a key component of the early Tulsa boosters' agenda, and the tracks of the Saint Louis-San Francisco (Frisco) Railroad are what determined both the orientation of downtown Tulsa and the original dividing line between north and south Tulsa. At one point, Tulsa was served by not only the Frisco, but also the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe, the Missouri-Kansas-Texas (Katy), and the Midland Valley lines, and one of its art deco showpieces downtown is the now-rennovated Tulsa Union Depot.
Today, the Burlington Northern Santa Fe operates Cherokee Yard--one of the largest sorting yards in the entire BNSF system--just to the west of US-75 where it passes along Southwest Boulevard. The Union Pacific operates a much smaller yard near 51st and Garnett. In addition, short lines such as the Tulsa-Sapulpa-Union Railroad and the Sand Springs Railroad also serve Tulsa's surface transportation needs. Randall123 22:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Jeez, how much info belongs in the article? This article was longer that the article for NYC!! How is that possible? Too much information about Avenues going North-South, Streets East-West, Long lists of "attractions" (lol), all chest puffing and fluffing, look at the NYC article, short, simple, dont try to put in different things such as "Tourists Attractions", we have no Attractions or Tourists.The article is fine the way it is—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.187.154.33 ( talk • contribs)
The street network needs to be deleted or seriously shortened too. I guess it was a bit contradicting, In other words dont make the article any longer than it is now.
What happened to the list?
I reverted several edits because I felt adding local pseudo-celebrities and bands that fail WP:BAND would further degrade an already below-average article. If the editor who made the changes wishes to defend his edits, please feel free to do so. After all, nobody owns this article.↔ NMajdan• talk 17:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
This section has gotten long again... Shouldn't the Cityscape section be a short summary of the The Neighborhoods of Tulsa, Oklahoma article? Isn't that why there even is a Neighborhoods of Tulsa article? Well, the Cityscape section has gotten to be very long and repetitive of the Neighborhoods of Tulsa, Oklahoma article all over again. We should shorten it and combine some material from the current Cityscape section into the The Neighborhoods of Tulsa, Oklahoma article. I think we should shorten it to maybe a few paragraphs, or, at the very least, less than half the section's current length. What do you guys think? Okiefromokla 21:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I have done a lot of editing, as you might see by looking at the history lately. The Tulsa article may seem considerably different than it did before, maybe a lot better, hopefully. I shortened it a bit and condensed a lot of stuff, adding a few important things and changing the picture layout and even adding pictures. Everyone likes pictures. What I really think the article needs now is more citations and a lot more. We have less than 15 right now. More documentation and more facts are needed, but lets concentrate on not making the article any longer but simply rewriting or deleting things that arent really needed. Shortening and calrifying will make all the difference. And please, I stress: please no more useless information like listing every single park in the city of Tulsa PLEASE. Okiefromokla 06:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Sunday April 15th's business section of the Tulsa World highlighted this article - and basically said it was good, accurate, and trustworthy. The editorial is here http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=070414_5_E1_spanc51254 .
You all who have worked on this article should be proud. 70.128.100.8 16:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
In light of the good review by the Tulsa World and recent edits, maybe its getting close to reassessing this article as a "good article" on the scale. The only real problem I see with this article not meeting Good Article standards is perhaps a lack of references and citations, but I have added many citations recently. The article is also fairly comprehensive, well written, has a good assortment of pictures, and has recently become more factually verifiable with additional references. Can I get some input here? If not, I'm going to go ahead and submit this article for "Good Article" status, and maybe add a few more references in the intern. Okiefromokla 20:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I striked out some of those things NMajdan listed that I have just accomplished and I left notes for people to look at if they want. (See above list)... I can envision such problems like how the History and Government sections can't get any bigger without original research as their main articles are very skimpy. I suggest the priorities for this article right now be more references, and since the article is bigger we desperately need more pictures, like a climate relevant picture, a picture of city hall under government, and a transportation-relevant picture such on of the Port of Catoosa, a Tulsa bus stop, or perferrably, if anyone has a picture oh a highway interchange where you can see downtown in the background. That would be great. Just some suggestions, you know. References and pictures and expansion of the Government section are big priorities in my mind, as well as improper spacing of reference marks... again, all of that is listed in the above list. I don't know if we need a peer review just yet since now we know what we need to get done. When the majority of these suggestions are completed then maybe we can go for Good Article status at the least. However, have you seen the San Jose article? This Tulsa article is better, in my opinion... Okiefromokla 23:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I ran AndyZ's automated peer review on the article and here are some suggestions:
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between a number and the unit of measurement. For example, instead of 12 miles, use 12 miles, which when you are editing the page, should look like: 12 miles.
[?]You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, ↔ NMajdan• talk 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so there aren't any feature city articles that have a massive external links section, and frankly it was annoying the heck out of me to have a million external links of every single museum, preforming arts group and newspaper mentioned in the article. So I deleted all but the official city website, visitor info, the chamber of commerce and vision 2025. I meant to copy and paste all the deleted links into here but I accidentily copied something else in the mean time... sorry! Of course, if somebody has a problem with not having an eternal links section the size of Alaska then you can always look under the article's history to see what I deleted. Okiefromokla 03:04, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
I changed back the pictures in the geography section to their original pixelation without realizing that you had already changed them to the standard 180 px, NMajdan. I'm not trying to "own" this article or anything so I wanted to discuss it in here - do you think we should take the pixelation out of all the pictures to make them all the default? (without specifying, it goes to 180px or somewhere around there). I think it looks nice to have them all basically the same size on the article so let me know what you think. I just changed them back because I thought it looked better, but thats what the discussion page is for. Oh, and if by any miracle someone else looks at this and wants to say anything then I'm not just talking to NMajdan, of course. :P Okiefromokla 15:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Just to update, if you haven't noticed: the Tulsa article now has more references than all of the featured city articles except San Francisco, Houston and Detroit. That's five out of eight of the feature articles that Tulsa has more citations! If Tulsa became a feature article right now - it would (arguably) be better organized, more coherent, better cited, better written, and more comprehensive than several of the other feature city articles - namely San Jose, Ann Arbor, and Marshall, Tx, specifically. I really think this article has a chance at being a feature article - I'm just waiting for more takers on the peer review. Sigh... Okiefromokla 02:16, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I noticed a new paragraph regarding a new statue was added to the lead. Per WP:LEAD (namely WP:LEAD#Suggestions), the lead should be an overview of the content of the article. Everything mentioned in the intro should be expanded on, or at least mentioned, in the rest of the article. The new addition should be moved from the lead to somewhere in the article itself.↔ NMajdan• talk 20:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I finally feel like I've done all I can do, and after nitpicking around quite a bit with picture captions and grammer and punctuation, I went ahead an nominated it for Featured Status a day early of the "Around May 1st" agreement. Don't worry, my hopes aren't up, though. Okiefromokla 21:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
A FA reviewer said the licence on the Tulsa Race Riot picture is probably not good because it's only eligable for public domain in the United States, but that another licence that would be universal and may be eligable for the same picture. Unfortunently, I have no idea how to track that information down or change the licence. I would greatly, greatly appreciate it if you could look into that, NMajdan. That picture was already on Wikipedia, but I havent had much luck finding Tulsa Race Riot pictures online that weren't copyrighted, as I don't know how to find if a picture is eligable for public domian. Any help in finding another eligable race riot picture would also be greatly appreciated, if the current picture can't be validated, thanks. Okiefromokla 02:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Sandy's issues with the citations are justified. I should have caught it earlier, so I apologize. There are many issues with the citations. Here are some that I spotted while I was fixing some: As Sandy pointed out, if your source is a news publisher (New York Times, Daily Oklahoman (NewsOK.com), Oklahoma Daily, Tulsa World, etc), then you need to use the {{ cite news}} citation template. The "work" field is not for the author, its if there are multiple works inside of the individual source. The author should go in the "first" and "last" field. The "date" field is the wikilinked date of publication. Only use if you know the full date. If you only know the copyright year (and its specifically stated, don't guess), then you use the "year" field. You don't need to use the "page" field usually, unless your source is a multi-paged PDF document. Web sites are sorted with pages. That's all I remember seeing. I've fixed a couple sources and I'll continue to do so as time permits. Let me know if you have any other questions.↔ NMajdan• talk 13:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
You know what would be great? A portion of main street has been renamed "Avenue of the sister cities" and on a street corner there is a pretty cool looking pole with signs pointing towards all of Tulsa's sister cities and the distance they lie from downtown. Its also in a really nice looking renovated area of downtown if the actual avenue could be caught in the background. If anybody is downtown be sure to stop by and take a few pictures and we'll use the best one in the law and government#sister cities section. No rush though. Okiefromokla• talk 23:10, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I added two more pictures to the Commons today. One is another pic of the BOk Center under construction. Same view as the other one only 6 months later. Another is a much better (in my opinion) photo of City Hall. Both can be seen at commons:Tulsa, Oklahoma#Buildings. I haven't yet gotten around to looking for the signs mentioned above but I'll get to it.↔ NMajdan• talk 00:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
You never told me this would be this hard. This latest person to give a long list of requests seems to not have read the article very well. He seems to want to make the article what it used to be - an excessive list of every single detail and place in Tulsa. This person also seems to be flat out wrong in his complaints - for example, he says half of the history section is from 1980 to present - this is completely not true - its about 1/10 to 2/10 of the history section. I left a comment on his page but what he needs to do is take a look at the other FA cities because most of his requests would degrade from the consice information and overview feel of the article. Its extremely frusterating when people suggest things that are not neccisary or say things are wrong about the article that are not. While some of his requests are reasonable, most of them are not. His requests are not neccisary for a FA quality article. Am I the only one who feels that this latest long list of demands is not good!? Okiefromokla• talk 18:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I think its great to have a picture of some aspect of Tulsa religion in the demographics section, as it now talks about religion. I'm not too familiar with licensing protocol on Wikipedia but the prayer tower picture I put up appears to be accepted for use - provided that the photographer is credited. The photographer is credited in the talk page for the picture, but if this means that he must also be credited in the caption of the picture on the actual article, I don't think i want the picture on the page. If you know about this either way, please let me know. (Or if the author must be credited in the caption, please just delete the picture, as I probably won't be able to do it tomorrow.) In the mean time, it looks nice. Thanks Okiefromokla• talk 02:28, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The new heath care section has a picture Cancer Treatment Center's building. I work at St. Francis and, weather permitting, should be able to get a decent picture of it by this weekend (I work Fri, Sat, Sun). I always license my images as straight GFDL, so there would no license problems. As the largest hospital, and as a primary care hospital, I think that St. Francis would be a better choice for an image. (As the oldest hospital St. John would be a good choice also.) However, I recognize that I might be biased and won't insert a new picture without some feedback here.
On a different note, should Tulsa Regional (Or whatever it is called these days) and the specialty hospitals be mentioned (Orthopedic Hospital of Oklahoma, and Spine)? Dsmdgold 03:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The medical section starts out "In 2005, there were .921 hospital beds per capita in the city." With a population of 387,807, this translates to 357,170 hospital beds in Tulsa, which is bit larger than reality. Is this suppose to read 921 beds, or 1 bed per 921 residents, or what? Dsmdgold 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The caption for the Tulsa movie poster read "The 1949 movie "Tulsa" played on the drama of the Tulsa Race Riot." I haven't seen the movie, but the IMDB plot summary reads:
So I have changed the caption to read "The 1949 movie "Tulsa" played on the drama of the Tulsa oil boom." Dsmdgold 14:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I think the part on the Pittsburgh Penguins coming to Tulsa is unnecessary, seeing how they are building a new arena in Pittsburgh. Also I believe that gaming should stay in this section. Great job on the article. ( Tulsaschoolboard 21:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC))
Let me know what you think about the new OK Aquarium picture in the outdoor recreation section. Its taken at night so I was reluctant to use yet another night picture since the article already has a few. But I thought the article would benefit from another picture depicting outdoor recreation. Again, let me know if you want to keep it in there, or, if you can, please supply a better outdoor recreation picture! Okiefromokla• talk 19:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
PS:its not in the article anymore but I still want a better outdoor recreation picture if anybody has it. Here is the OK Aquarium picture: [7] Okiefromokla• talk 23:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations are definitely in order to OkiefromOkla. Great work on the article! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nmajdan ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
...does exist. Its just not on some maps and there are no signs that say I-444 downtown. But it does exist. Take a look at this traffic map from the City of Tulsa website.↔ NMajdan• talk 13:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'll be. Twenty something years in Tulsa, and I had no idea. From the Interstate 444 article it appears to follow the routes of 64 and 75, which, in my opinion, serve this article better for deliniating the borders of downtown, as anyone looking for 444 in Tulsa or on many maps is going to be very confused. But, if you feel 444 is more accurate, that's fine although an unsigned disclaimer before it and a wikilink to the article about it would help. - steventity 13:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Both are true, but Interstate 444 does exist [8]. It overlaps both highway 64 and highway 75 forming the southern and eastern legs of the inner dispersal loop. As you can see from the website I just mentioned, there is a map showing quite clearly the confusing overlap throughout the entire inner dispersal loop - Interstate 244 overlaps 64, 51, and 412. However, Interstate 444 does exist, and because of the fact that it is an interstate, I think it should be mentioned above the rest. Or they all could be mentioned, but that would get a little wordy. I didnt change it back, and I won't unless theres some more discussion on the subject. Okiefromokla• talk 22:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Is there any desire at all to create a wikiproject for things relating to the Tulsa Metropolitan Area? Input? Okiefromokla• talk 17:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
If there is ever a need to delete a part of this article due to its length, it should be something that doesn't take away from the article's current feature quality. Therefore I think its important to discuss a portion of the article if we were to delete it, and if it ever came to that, I nominate this paragraph from the infrastructure section (see article for unabridged version of paragraph, which is much longer):
"Through its entire duration through Tulsa, historic Route 66 is a drivable road with motels and restaurants reminiscent of the route's heyday era. Interstate 44 and the Skelly Drive Bypass crosses Tulsa through midtown from east and west, while its sister highways, Interstate 244 and Interstate 444, make up the inner-dispersal loop surrounding downtown and wrap through the northern part of the city, . . . The Creek Turnpike splits away from Highway 169 from the South and Interstate 44 from the East, bypassing most of the city of Tulsa and the suburb of Broken Arrow, eventually reconnecting with Interstate 44 in Catoosa to the east and Jenks to the west."
We could create a new article entitled "Transportation in Tulsa" and use this paragraph as a base to start the article, as it is simply a description of the highways in Tulsa. Such an article could also include descriptions of the roads, which was on a previous version of the Tulsa article that can be recovered. Please give us your thoughts on the eventual deletion of this paragraph, or nominate another part of the article, thanks. Okiefromokla• talk 21:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Little insignificants like Interstate 444 etc makes this article appear wordy, and poorly thought out, not every little detail about Tulsa has to fit into the article. There is absolutely no reason that the Tulsa article has to be longer than the New York City article. It is bogged down, so if I deleted the garbage, people would revert, so what to do?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.187.154.33 ( talk • contribs)
In "Arts and theatre" and "outdoor recreation", I deleted detailed descriptions of philbrook and gilcrease as well as some similar descriptions of certain parks. Hopefully its more like an overview in those sections now. Please let me know if you object to these deletions in any way, or feel it takes from the article's featured quality. Okiefromokla• talk 16:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The addition today regarding planned expansions of the trail systems was removed because the sources provided did not have the information supposedly being cited. One source was a map and the other was a webpage and neither had what needed to be cited in the article. However, I would like to give the editor a chance to provide accurate sources if he or she would like to re-add the information. This is a featured article so lets make sure information is sourced corretly. Okiefromokla• talk 22:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm a wikipedia noob, and I wouldn't dare touch the Tulsa article, but I was wondering if you guys think there's any value in adding my pic (I'm a bit biased) to the article somewhere. Tim Morgan 15:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, so I went looking for a source so i can cite the 46th largest city statement, but I found that according to census.gov, Tulsa is ranked 44 in population. That got me thinking -- in the lead, are we referring to size on the map, population, or what? Tim Morgan 21:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
There wasn't enough space in the edit summary to explain why I deleted the recent addition so I will do it here. For one, the article is very long already - any longer than it is right now and we have a serious problem. In addition, it was unsourced. I ask that information of that kind be sourced - if you're obviously looking at something in order to write the correct information in the article, just take a second to cite what you're looking at, please. If you're too lazy, even just put a url in brackets like this: [url], and I or someone else will cite it correctly. Secondly, the same paragraph was put in twice - the lead, which was not appropriate (Please review WP:LEAD), and also the outdoor rec section. Since this is just one plan for the river in a long line of river plans that haven't materialized, I felt it wasn't noteworthy to put in an encyclopedia article about the city of Tulsa just yet. (I did move it to the history of Tulsa, Oklahoma article, though). However, when this plan is more concrete than simply "having the mayor's support" and something is going to happen, then a brief one (or two) sentence mention could be added somewhere along with a source. The more detailed description of the plan should be in a separate article, such as History of Tulsa, Oklahoma, or some other appropriate article, since, again, the article is already too long. If anyone disagrees with me, by all means, speak up. Okiefromokla• talk 18:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Could someone please look over the article closely and discuss some specific suggestions on what to remove to make this article shorter? My goal is to get this article down to 85KB or below, but the key is to do it without detracting from its quality. Please, don't just say "shorten history section"... I need specific examples of what to remove. Lets make sure the deletions add to this article's quality. Thanks! Okiefromokla• talk 18:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
I went through and took care of most of that stuff I have been talking about, and shortened the article to 86 KB while actually increasing the number of references. It doesn't actually look a whole lot different but I am getting more comfortable with its size now. Let me know what you think. Okiefromokla• talk 02:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
I haven't seen a scrollbar on a reflist on any featured article. And I couldn't find anything on a Wikipedia guideline page about it. So Is it proper or generally considered acceptable? Okiefromokla• talk 23:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I have some reservations about this whole situation and have had reservations of mentioning it since the move was first brought up:
So the question I ask is, is the caption is enough, or do you want to keep the mention of the move in the article? Okiefromokla• talk 22:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
This is an excellent article. Since it's a featured article, I don't want to change it significantly, and I notice that you are wishing to remove some parts to make it smaller. Is there any thought about adding a famous natives section? I was wanting to add Doug Marlette to the article since he lived in Tulsa.-- Gloriamarie 18:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Regarding this sentence in the lead:
The Tulsa Port of Catoosa, at the head of the McClellan-Kerr Arkansas River Navigation System, is the most inland riverport in the U.S. with access to international waterways. [1] [2]
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The first reference states it as the most inland riverport. However, I noticed that Tulsa Port of Catoosa's website bills itself as "one of the largest, most inland river-ports in the United States!". Is it the most inland port? P.Haney 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I changed the term "Caucasian" to White, as some people may find Caucasian, offensive, as it implies someone is from the Caucasus Mountain region. Thanks. Iamanadam ( talk) 01:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Not a single mention of The buried Belvedere?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.181.252 ( talk) 22:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
As of 2015-16, the city of Tulsa is less than 50% White: an estimated 18% Latino, 16% Black, 10% Asian and 10% Native American (there could be 15% if you include part-Native Americans), plus 12% mixed race, 5% Middle Eastern (there was a wave of Arab and Iranian immigrants to Tulsa, partly due to the oil industry) and 2% Pacific Islander of Marshallese origin (see Marshall Islands). The city has many Burmese, Vietnamese and Hmong immigrants lately, and until 2010, Mexican immigration was in high levels. About 5 or 6 thousand Jews live in Tulsa, where they have a local museum of Jewish Arts and History. 2605:E000:FDCA:4200:24F3:157C:31F4:1568 ( talk) 13:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)