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I felt that the Australian System should have their own colours. I decided to have a play around and this is what i came up with. Tell me what you think.
Australian Category [1] | Maximum wind gusts ( km/h) | Maximum sustained winds ( km/h) [2] | Corresponding Beaufort Force [3] |
---|---|---|---|
Effects [4] | |||
Tropical Low | ≤125 | 63-88 | Gale (8-9) |
Negligible house damage. Damage to some crops, trees and caravans. | |||
Category 1
Tropical Cyclone |
≤125 | 63-88 | Gale (8-9) |
Negligible house damage. Damage to some crops, trees and caravans. | |||
Category 2
Tropical Cyclone |
125-169 | 89-117 | Storm (10-11) |
Minor house damage. Significant damage to signs, trees and caravans. Heavy damage to some crops. Risk of power failure. Small craft may break moorings. | |||
Category 3
Severe Topical Cyclone |
170-224 | 118-159 | Hurricane (12) |
Some roof and structural damage. Some caravans destroyed. Power failures likely. | |||
Category 4
Severe Topical Cyclone |
225-279 | 160-199 | Hurricane (12) |
Significant structural damage. Many caravans destroyed and blown away. Dangerous airborne debris. Widespread power failures. | |||
Category 5
Severe Topical Cyclone |
≥280 | ≥200 | Hurricane (12) |
Extremely dangerous with widespread destruction. |
-- Seddon69 17:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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No. Just no. We don't particularly need this at all. You tried your best, nonetheless. ~ AC5230 ( talk) 03:25, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
According to all sources about the Beaufort scale (for instance https://www.rmets.org/weather-and-climate/observing/beaufort-scale), the scale is off in the Tropical cyclone classifications table. This should be the correct table:
As can be seen there is an overlap between a category 1 hurricane (saffir simpson scale) and 11 beaufort.
They are wrong because the beaufort scale corresponds to the 10-minute wind speed. Currently in the table the 1-minute wind speed is used to assign the beaufort scale. The 10-minute beaufort scale should be used.
Where's the CDPS scale, created 2016 by Devon Williams? I'd like an explanation of it. 108.160.124.180 ( talk) 18:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Some numbers in the master table are converted incorrectly with Wikipedia's convert function. See discussion at Template_talk:Tropical_Cyclone_Classification Weathermatrix ( talk) 15:27, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
The categories Very Strong Typhoon and Violent Typhoon on the JMA scale shown on the bottom scale comparison table do not seemingly exist. Those categories are not shown on the scale chart in the JMA scale's section of the TC scales WP page and no other known source talks about these categories on the JMA scale. The categories have been on there for months. Is there need for concern regarding this?
~
AC5230 (
talk)
00:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
If the windspeed weakens in tropical storm,what will be it's new category? 49.145.54.151 ( talk) 23:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
I've noticed that the scale coloring has changed. What happened? If there's already something about this, I'd liked to know. Thanks. Mobius Gerig ( talk) 04:03, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
FYI Template:Tropical cyclone classification ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for discussion at TfD. See the consensus-seeking discussion -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 14:35, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Why 'Comparision across basins' section is deleted?? 116.73.134.216 ( talk) 17:31, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
According to the latest BoM update for a system (archived link), the system was a tropical low with sustained winds of 65 km/h. Per the scale in the article, that would be a category 1 cyclone, however, BoM marks it still as a “Tropical Low”. Scale is inaccurate per BoM. Elijahandskip ( talk) 07:05, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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I felt that the Australian System should have their own colours. I decided to have a play around and this is what i came up with. Tell me what you think.
Australian Category [1] | Maximum wind gusts ( km/h) | Maximum sustained winds ( km/h) [2] | Corresponding Beaufort Force [3] |
---|---|---|---|
Effects [4] | |||
Tropical Low | ≤125 | 63-88 | Gale (8-9) |
Negligible house damage. Damage to some crops, trees and caravans. | |||
Category 1
Tropical Cyclone |
≤125 | 63-88 | Gale (8-9) |
Negligible house damage. Damage to some crops, trees and caravans. | |||
Category 2
Tropical Cyclone |
125-169 | 89-117 | Storm (10-11) |
Minor house damage. Significant damage to signs, trees and caravans. Heavy damage to some crops. Risk of power failure. Small craft may break moorings. | |||
Category 3
Severe Topical Cyclone |
170-224 | 118-159 | Hurricane (12) |
Some roof and structural damage. Some caravans destroyed. Power failures likely. | |||
Category 4
Severe Topical Cyclone |
225-279 | 160-199 | Hurricane (12) |
Significant structural damage. Many caravans destroyed and blown away. Dangerous airborne debris. Widespread power failures. | |||
Category 5
Severe Topical Cyclone |
≥280 | ≥200 | Hurricane (12) |
Extremely dangerous with widespread destruction. |
-- Seddon69 17:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
References
No. Just no. We don't particularly need this at all. You tried your best, nonetheless. ~ AC5230 ( talk) 03:25, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
According to all sources about the Beaufort scale (for instance https://www.rmets.org/weather-and-climate/observing/beaufort-scale), the scale is off in the Tropical cyclone classifications table. This should be the correct table:
As can be seen there is an overlap between a category 1 hurricane (saffir simpson scale) and 11 beaufort.
They are wrong because the beaufort scale corresponds to the 10-minute wind speed. Currently in the table the 1-minute wind speed is used to assign the beaufort scale. The 10-minute beaufort scale should be used.
Where's the CDPS scale, created 2016 by Devon Williams? I'd like an explanation of it. 108.160.124.180 ( talk) 18:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Some numbers in the master table are converted incorrectly with Wikipedia's convert function. See discussion at Template_talk:Tropical_Cyclone_Classification Weathermatrix ( talk) 15:27, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
The categories Very Strong Typhoon and Violent Typhoon on the JMA scale shown on the bottom scale comparison table do not seemingly exist. Those categories are not shown on the scale chart in the JMA scale's section of the TC scales WP page and no other known source talks about these categories on the JMA scale. The categories have been on there for months. Is there need for concern regarding this?
~
AC5230 (
talk)
00:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
If the windspeed weakens in tropical storm,what will be it's new category? 49.145.54.151 ( talk) 23:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
I've noticed that the scale coloring has changed. What happened? If there's already something about this, I'd liked to know. Thanks. Mobius Gerig ( talk) 04:03, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
FYI Template:Tropical cyclone classification ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for discussion at TfD. See the consensus-seeking discussion -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 14:35, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Why 'Comparision across basins' section is deleted?? 116.73.134.216 ( talk) 17:31, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
According to the latest BoM update for a system (archived link), the system was a tropical low with sustained winds of 65 km/h. Per the scale in the article, that would be a category 1 cyclone, however, BoM marks it still as a “Tropical Low”. Scale is inaccurate per BoM. Elijahandskip ( talk) 07:05, 10 April 2023 (UTC)