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I have a feeling this is under construction, so I put it as a stub for now. Hurricanehink 02:18, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Here's some links that might help.
Hurricanehink 02:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Aparently, there is an article already on The Mameyes disaster, which occurred from a deadly mudslide. I propose that be merged into here, and then condensed a bit. Hurricanehink 01:25, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Twenty years after the tragedy various news reports on the conmemoration of the disaster feature interviews to various of the disaster survivors. Some of them talked about an illegal firecracker factory that used to operate in Mameyes but was closed at the time. They believe that apparently lightning struck nearby an old firecracker powder deposit in turn exploded and caused the landslide. They also point to French rescue dogs that not only seemed to identify the location of dead and alive humans, but also found traces of gun powder. It seems that these facts were kept from public knowledge because if the Federal Emergency Management Agency found about this wouldn't count as a natural disaster and no funds would be allocated for assistance.
Less than a week before the tragedy a group of five-year-old children at a Head Start learning center drew pictures of houses falling down the mountain slope, along with crosses simbolizing tombs. Their teacher posted their pictures on a bulletin board and days later, after the tragedy, she realized that these drawings were some sort of premonition from the children. One of the children drew his own home with two crosses, one on top and one at the bottom; him and his brother died on that night and their bodies were never recovered.
Many Puerto Ricans speculated that what happened in Mameyes was a punishment from God: The area had been known for having a high incidence of crime. On the other hand, after a volcano erupted in Colombia about a month later, killing thousands, many started rumors that Latin American countries were doomed, noting that Mexico, Puerto Rico and Colombia had suffered large tragedies within two months. Many citizens of other Hispanic countries actually wondered which country would be hit next. As it turned out, a considerable amount of time went by before another Hispanic country suffered a large magnitude tragedy.
The government of Puerto Rico received messages of condolence from many countries from around the world. A television marathon was organized, with Mexican actress Veronica Castro giving a memorable speech about how it was Mexico's turn now to help Puerto Rico; after Puerto Rico had sent help to the victims of the Mexico City earthquake that had taken place one month before. Emergency workers, along with dogs, arrived from Mexico, Venezuela, France and other countries.
These things are from the Mameyes disaster article. The article is in the process of being merged, and this is unsourced. Hurricanehink 16:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Can we add this info into the article? Icelandic Hurricane #12 (talk) 23:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
This opening para in the history section, can someone please explain North Eastern Pacific Ocean as part of an Atlantic storm.
Can this be linked to an explanation on naming, and why it wont be used until 2009.
Image:Mameyes.jpg as it taken by a US govt employee during his work for the US govt should the copyright tag be PD-US//PD-USgov Gnangarra 10:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
The fate of the wave isn't relevant to the history of the storm, I took it out. The retirement section has been rephrased to expand on that a little better. I also changed the landslide pic to a higher res one from the USGS site and tagged it with PD-USGov-Interior-USGS.-- Nilfanion ( talk) 12:01, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response, congratulations to the editors of this article. Gnangarra 12:13, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Now what? íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 22:33, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would also be beneficial to go through the article and update all of the access dates of the inline citations and fix any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 00:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, this is odd, because the article was originally focused on the Puerto Rican flooding. Seeing as most of the impact was from the precursor system, that the Mameyes label is pretty popular ( it's the title of the Spanish article on the event), I propose this get moved, either to 1985 Mameyes disaster, 1985 Puerto Rico flooding, something along those lines. Any thoughts? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 05:31, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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Tropical Storm Isabel (1985) was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | ||||||||||||||||
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Current status: Delisted good article |
I have a feeling this is under construction, so I put it as a stub for now. Hurricanehink 02:18, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Here's some links that might help.
Hurricanehink 02:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Aparently, there is an article already on The Mameyes disaster, which occurred from a deadly mudslide. I propose that be merged into here, and then condensed a bit. Hurricanehink 01:25, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Twenty years after the tragedy various news reports on the conmemoration of the disaster feature interviews to various of the disaster survivors. Some of them talked about an illegal firecracker factory that used to operate in Mameyes but was closed at the time. They believe that apparently lightning struck nearby an old firecracker powder deposit in turn exploded and caused the landslide. They also point to French rescue dogs that not only seemed to identify the location of dead and alive humans, but also found traces of gun powder. It seems that these facts were kept from public knowledge because if the Federal Emergency Management Agency found about this wouldn't count as a natural disaster and no funds would be allocated for assistance.
Less than a week before the tragedy a group of five-year-old children at a Head Start learning center drew pictures of houses falling down the mountain slope, along with crosses simbolizing tombs. Their teacher posted their pictures on a bulletin board and days later, after the tragedy, she realized that these drawings were some sort of premonition from the children. One of the children drew his own home with two crosses, one on top and one at the bottom; him and his brother died on that night and their bodies were never recovered.
Many Puerto Ricans speculated that what happened in Mameyes was a punishment from God: The area had been known for having a high incidence of crime. On the other hand, after a volcano erupted in Colombia about a month later, killing thousands, many started rumors that Latin American countries were doomed, noting that Mexico, Puerto Rico and Colombia had suffered large tragedies within two months. Many citizens of other Hispanic countries actually wondered which country would be hit next. As it turned out, a considerable amount of time went by before another Hispanic country suffered a large magnitude tragedy.
The government of Puerto Rico received messages of condolence from many countries from around the world. A television marathon was organized, with Mexican actress Veronica Castro giving a memorable speech about how it was Mexico's turn now to help Puerto Rico; after Puerto Rico had sent help to the victims of the Mexico City earthquake that had taken place one month before. Emergency workers, along with dogs, arrived from Mexico, Venezuela, France and other countries.
These things are from the Mameyes disaster article. The article is in the process of being merged, and this is unsourced. Hurricanehink 16:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Can we add this info into the article? Icelandic Hurricane #12 (talk) 23:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
This opening para in the history section, can someone please explain North Eastern Pacific Ocean as part of an Atlantic storm.
Can this be linked to an explanation on naming, and why it wont be used until 2009.
Image:Mameyes.jpg as it taken by a US govt employee during his work for the US govt should the copyright tag be PD-US//PD-USgov Gnangarra 10:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
The fate of the wave isn't relevant to the history of the storm, I took it out. The retirement section has been rephrased to expand on that a little better. I also changed the landslide pic to a higher res one from the USGS site and tagged it with PD-USGov-Interior-USGS.-- Nilfanion ( talk) 12:01, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response, congratulations to the editors of this article. Gnangarra 12:13, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Now what? íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 22:33, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would also be beneficial to go through the article and update all of the access dates of the inline citations and fix any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 00:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, this is odd, because the article was originally focused on the Puerto Rican flooding. Seeing as most of the impact was from the precursor system, that the Mameyes label is pretty popular ( it's the title of the Spanish article on the event), I propose this get moved, either to 1985 Mameyes disaster, 1985 Puerto Rico flooding, something along those lines. Any thoughts? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 05:31, 30 December 2011 (UTC)