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This article was nominated for merging with Triumph TR7 on 17 February 2013. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Rewriting this article at User:Graham.Fountain/TR7 Sprint/rewrite. Nearly done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham.Fountain ( talk • contribs) 19:08, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Page updated from User:Graham.Fountain/TR7 Sprint/rewrite on 28th April, 2013. Graham.Fountain | Talk 12:03, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
What were the brakes on the TR7 Sprint / TR8?
AFAIR, the TR7 (and Dolomite Sprint) brakes were fairly puny two piston calipers with small solid disks. Not far from the Triumph Herald setup. The factory TR8 though used a setup also used by Rover and the long wheelbase Ford Transit, of four pot calipers and vented disks. This became a fairly popular after-market conversion, as the spares (if bought for, or taken from, a LWB Transit) were cheaper than BL's pricing. Certainly a tuned TR7 was definitely lacking in repeated braking ability, even when compared to that other brake-fade prone clubbie rallycar of the period, the Fiat 124.
What was the brake setup on the TR7 Sprint? Did it still have the small brakes or did it get the vented disks? Andy Dingley ( talk) 13:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Graham.Fountain | Talk 13:01, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I attest that I was the source of this statement: "Although the SJW TR7V8 rally cars began life as TR7 Sprints, the rally cars were scratch built using bodies taken off the line and prepared by Safety Devices. So only the registration numbers from the sprints were used." I was given this information, in a telephone conversation, by Bill Price, who had been manager of the competitions dept. at Abingdon at the time these cars were used, and therefore should have known exactly what happened. This conversation occurred in 1990 or 91 when I was researching the provenance of VVC 697S and lasted for something like an hour (don't ask what the phone bill was that quarter). He also said that the actual press cars would have been sold off as rolling shells. As I remember, the reason he gave for not using the cars themselves was to do with problems welding in the roll cage in cars completed with their insulation and sound deadening, and DVLA not allowing them to register scratch built cars; hence, they took shells off the line, before they were finished, and used the documentation from the 4 press cars.
Whilst it is possible that Mr Price was being less than honest in what he said, for reasons I am unaware of, I have no reason to believe this. He was also extremely frank regarding the practices of BL in rallying at the time, stating that they went with "two sets of number plates and tax discs and a truck/lorry load of cars" and stated to the effect that anyone who links a particular body shell with a specific event is making a mistake. I don't remember his precise words on the last issue, and don't think I could exactly reproduce them here if I did. He also said that there was one rally where, after replacing a damaged car with a new one, they put the wrong number plates on it, and ran with two cars with the same registration numbers. Again, I don't remember the precise words, or if he said which event this was, etc.
Graham.Fountain | Talk 15:59, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if this article belongs in the category vehicles introduced in 1977 or the category cars..., or both. I had a quick look and there seems to be little if any obvious logic to which categories other cars are in. However, the TR7 and TR8 are in category vehicles, so I reverted the change made so the TR7 Sprint is the same. But I don't know it's right. Graham.Fountain | Talk 13:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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Rewriting this article at User:Graham.Fountain/TR7 Sprint/rewrite. Nearly done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham.Fountain ( talk • contribs) 19:08, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Page updated from User:Graham.Fountain/TR7 Sprint/rewrite on 28th April, 2013. Graham.Fountain | Talk 12:03, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
What were the brakes on the TR7 Sprint / TR8?
AFAIR, the TR7 (and Dolomite Sprint) brakes were fairly puny two piston calipers with small solid disks. Not far from the Triumph Herald setup. The factory TR8 though used a setup also used by Rover and the long wheelbase Ford Transit, of four pot calipers and vented disks. This became a fairly popular after-market conversion, as the spares (if bought for, or taken from, a LWB Transit) were cheaper than BL's pricing. Certainly a tuned TR7 was definitely lacking in repeated braking ability, even when compared to that other brake-fade prone clubbie rallycar of the period, the Fiat 124.
What was the brake setup on the TR7 Sprint? Did it still have the small brakes or did it get the vented disks? Andy Dingley ( talk) 13:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Graham.Fountain | Talk 13:01, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I attest that I was the source of this statement: "Although the SJW TR7V8 rally cars began life as TR7 Sprints, the rally cars were scratch built using bodies taken off the line and prepared by Safety Devices. So only the registration numbers from the sprints were used." I was given this information, in a telephone conversation, by Bill Price, who had been manager of the competitions dept. at Abingdon at the time these cars were used, and therefore should have known exactly what happened. This conversation occurred in 1990 or 91 when I was researching the provenance of VVC 697S and lasted for something like an hour (don't ask what the phone bill was that quarter). He also said that the actual press cars would have been sold off as rolling shells. As I remember, the reason he gave for not using the cars themselves was to do with problems welding in the roll cage in cars completed with their insulation and sound deadening, and DVLA not allowing them to register scratch built cars; hence, they took shells off the line, before they were finished, and used the documentation from the 4 press cars.
Whilst it is possible that Mr Price was being less than honest in what he said, for reasons I am unaware of, I have no reason to believe this. He was also extremely frank regarding the practices of BL in rallying at the time, stating that they went with "two sets of number plates and tax discs and a truck/lorry load of cars" and stated to the effect that anyone who links a particular body shell with a specific event is making a mistake. I don't remember his precise words on the last issue, and don't think I could exactly reproduce them here if I did. He also said that there was one rally where, after replacing a damaged car with a new one, they put the wrong number plates on it, and ran with two cars with the same registration numbers. Again, I don't remember the precise words, or if he said which event this was, etc.
Graham.Fountain | Talk 15:59, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if this article belongs in the category vehicles introduced in 1977 or the category cars..., or both. I had a quick look and there seems to be little if any obvious logic to which categories other cars are in. However, the TR7 and TR8 are in category vehicles, so I reverted the change made so the TR7 Sprint is the same. But I don't know it's right. Graham.Fountain | Talk 13:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)