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The lead sentence which says, Kirstin Blaise Lobato is a Nevada woman who was serving time..... should now read, Kirstin Blaise Lobato is a Nevada woman who was exonerated in late 2017..... http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/lobato-becomes-the-200th-person-to-win-exoneration-through-the-innocence-project/901495258 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.1.176.44 ( talk) 02:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
As the article title now sits, "Kirstin Lobato", this article is a WP:BLP and will never (in my opinion) survive an WP:AfD under WP:BLP1E.
In the article's interest, and under WP:BOLD, I'm re-titling it. For evidence, I give you some other surviving articles here: While Kercher is not a notable person under WP:Notability, the topic " Murder of Meredith Kercher" is. Likewise, Parsons is non-notable, she does not have a biography here, however, " Suicide of Rehtaeh Parsons" is a notable topic, and has generated more notable news just recently. In terms of trials, Cedeño does not have a biography here, however, " Trial of Eligio Cedeño" does, and is a "spin-off" or "daughter" article of the " Human rights in Venezuela" article. (See the discussion at Arrest of judge María Lourdes Afiuni for a discussion of why the article's title was changed.)
As I understand Lobato's court cases as of this date, there have been two trials, several appeals, and there may be a third trial coming up, depending on what the appeals court decides. It is with this in mind, that I propose calling the article "Trials of Kirstin Lobato". You may have a better suggestion. In looking over other article titles in this encyclopedia, I'm getting slightly less than about a 50/50 as to whether we should put a "The" at the beginning (there's probably something in WP:MOS about that somewhere). Note in that my three examples above "The" is left off of the beginning of the titles of the articles (though not from the first sentence of those articles).
In some alternate reality, the article might actually be called "Murder of Duran Bailey" but that tile would make the article a WP:COATRACK, and we do not want that.
Note that this change will necessitate the various Wikiproject's scopes change as well, as noted on this Talk page. Further note that WP:BLP editing rules still apply, even though the article itself will no longer be a BLP. — Aladdin Sane ( talk) 16:49, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Anyone still monitoring this page?
https://theintercept.com/2017/10/25/kirstin-lobato-murder-trial-las-vegas/?comments=1#comments-- 96.10.3.42 ( talk) 19:44, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
This reads like an advocate of her freedom campaigners wrote it. It seems to be this is a case hijacked by feminists who think that she had the right to kill her alleged attempted rapist.
The idea that she's actually guilty, which a court and jury decided, doesn't even seem to be broached in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.132.10.250 ( talk) 21:38, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree that the page does read like an advocacy article for Lobato. But the facts of this case are so extreme that the idea that she may be guilty is indefensible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsugar12 ( talk • contribs) 03:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
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To add to the second paragraph that Lobato had, in fact, been released: https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/kirstin-lobato-freed-from-las-vegas-jail/ 174.1.176.44 ( talk) 23:05, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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The lead sentence which says, Kirstin Blaise Lobato is a Nevada woman who was serving time..... should now read, Kirstin Blaise Lobato is a Nevada woman who was exonerated in late 2017..... http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/lobato-becomes-the-200th-person-to-win-exoneration-through-the-innocence-project/901495258 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.1.176.44 ( talk) 02:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
As the article title now sits, "Kirstin Lobato", this article is a WP:BLP and will never (in my opinion) survive an WP:AfD under WP:BLP1E.
In the article's interest, and under WP:BOLD, I'm re-titling it. For evidence, I give you some other surviving articles here: While Kercher is not a notable person under WP:Notability, the topic " Murder of Meredith Kercher" is. Likewise, Parsons is non-notable, she does not have a biography here, however, " Suicide of Rehtaeh Parsons" is a notable topic, and has generated more notable news just recently. In terms of trials, Cedeño does not have a biography here, however, " Trial of Eligio Cedeño" does, and is a "spin-off" or "daughter" article of the " Human rights in Venezuela" article. (See the discussion at Arrest of judge María Lourdes Afiuni for a discussion of why the article's title was changed.)
As I understand Lobato's court cases as of this date, there have been two trials, several appeals, and there may be a third trial coming up, depending on what the appeals court decides. It is with this in mind, that I propose calling the article "Trials of Kirstin Lobato". You may have a better suggestion. In looking over other article titles in this encyclopedia, I'm getting slightly less than about a 50/50 as to whether we should put a "The" at the beginning (there's probably something in WP:MOS about that somewhere). Note in that my three examples above "The" is left off of the beginning of the titles of the articles (though not from the first sentence of those articles).
In some alternate reality, the article might actually be called "Murder of Duran Bailey" but that tile would make the article a WP:COATRACK, and we do not want that.
Note that this change will necessitate the various Wikiproject's scopes change as well, as noted on this Talk page. Further note that WP:BLP editing rules still apply, even though the article itself will no longer be a BLP. — Aladdin Sane ( talk) 16:49, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Anyone still monitoring this page?
https://theintercept.com/2017/10/25/kirstin-lobato-murder-trial-las-vegas/?comments=1#comments-- 96.10.3.42 ( talk) 19:44, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
This reads like an advocate of her freedom campaigners wrote it. It seems to be this is a case hijacked by feminists who think that she had the right to kill her alleged attempted rapist.
The idea that she's actually guilty, which a court and jury decided, doesn't even seem to be broached in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.132.10.250 ( talk) 21:38, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree that the page does read like an advocacy article for Lobato. But the facts of this case are so extreme that the idea that she may be guilty is indefensible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsugar12 ( talk • contribs) 03:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
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To add to the second paragraph that Lobato had, in fact, been released: https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/kirstin-lobato-freed-from-las-vegas-jail/ 174.1.176.44 ( talk) 23:05, 3 January 2018 (UTC)