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What were the provisions of the Treaty of Paris of 1898? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.69.134.250 ( talk • contribs)
I highly recommend to remove the phrase "having been thought themselves free". It is defamatory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.171.168 ( talk • contribs)
See Wikipedia:vandalism —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.171.168 ( talk • contribs)
There is a debate on whether or not the Philippines was purchased from Spain for $20 million in 1898 (equivalent to 481,000,000 in 2005 currency). The facts are as follows: (1) The Spanish-American war ended with Spain giving up most of its territories in Asia and the Carribean Sea. (2) In the aftermath of the war before the treaty was held, the US being the victor, had conquered Guam, the Philippine islands, and the other territories. (3) since the US had already conquered the Philippine islands Spain had permitted the US use of the ports and of the city of Manila (except for the southern regions ie Visayas and Mindanao) (4) Since Spain had refused to give up the entire archipelago, the US had offered $20 million.
The payment was not intended to purchase land but acted as a gift offering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.144.29.4 ( talk • contribs)
unproductive speculation? do your research, and you will find the right answers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.56.233.122 ( talk • contribs)
To say that "Cuba, which Spain was more than willing to cede to the U.S." is the most misleading statement I have ever read. Spain went to war over Cuba, remember? I'm removing it. Please feel free to let me know if it isn't appropriate. -- RafaelMinuesa ( talk) 03:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
McKinley had submitted treaty provision that Spain cede the Philippines and that the Un States pay Spain for 'outstanding indebtedness for permanent investments of a pacific character'(pp:347-348). This jibes with mentions I vaguely recall seeing elsewhere attributing the $20M payment to reimbursement to Spain for pre-war investment in Philippine infrastructure. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Language such as "merely an assertion of the conditions", etc., lacking reliable sources (to reflect consensus of historians) appears to be injection of opinions by the editors. Recommend concentrating on the sources and leaving editorial opinions to personal blogs Tedickey ( talk) 21:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
The article says Spain "Surrendered Puerto Rico and gave up its possessions in the West Indies." Which islands in the West Indies are they referring to besides those explicitly mentioned? And what happened with those islands; were they put under control of the US or did they become independent like Cuba? Nearwater ( talk) 06:15, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I've moved the following content here for discussion. It was added to the Treaty provisions section by this reverted edit.
The US never complied with the provisions of the Treaty. The Spanish Parliament did not ratify the Treaty, because it did not consider the opinion of the constituents on the Overseas territories being ceded, in relations to their automatic loss of Spanish Citizenship.
I have several problems with this
Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
I've added a {{ Cleanup rewrite}} hatnote to this section, saying: "unencyclopedic wikivoicey style, needs specific pagenos in cites more closely matched with assertions". I do not have access to the cited source for reverification, am not familiar with the specifics here. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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What were the provisions of the Treaty of Paris of 1898? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.69.134.250 ( talk • contribs)
I highly recommend to remove the phrase "having been thought themselves free". It is defamatory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.171.168 ( talk • contribs)
See Wikipedia:vandalism —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.171.168 ( talk • contribs)
There is a debate on whether or not the Philippines was purchased from Spain for $20 million in 1898 (equivalent to 481,000,000 in 2005 currency). The facts are as follows: (1) The Spanish-American war ended with Spain giving up most of its territories in Asia and the Carribean Sea. (2) In the aftermath of the war before the treaty was held, the US being the victor, had conquered Guam, the Philippine islands, and the other territories. (3) since the US had already conquered the Philippine islands Spain had permitted the US use of the ports and of the city of Manila (except for the southern regions ie Visayas and Mindanao) (4) Since Spain had refused to give up the entire archipelago, the US had offered $20 million.
The payment was not intended to purchase land but acted as a gift offering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.144.29.4 ( talk • contribs)
unproductive speculation? do your research, and you will find the right answers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.56.233.122 ( talk • contribs)
To say that "Cuba, which Spain was more than willing to cede to the U.S." is the most misleading statement I have ever read. Spain went to war over Cuba, remember? I'm removing it. Please feel free to let me know if it isn't appropriate. -- RafaelMinuesa ( talk) 03:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
McKinley had submitted treaty provision that Spain cede the Philippines and that the Un States pay Spain for 'outstanding indebtedness for permanent investments of a pacific character'(pp:347-348). This jibes with mentions I vaguely recall seeing elsewhere attributing the $20M payment to reimbursement to Spain for pre-war investment in Philippine infrastructure. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Language such as "merely an assertion of the conditions", etc., lacking reliable sources (to reflect consensus of historians) appears to be injection of opinions by the editors. Recommend concentrating on the sources and leaving editorial opinions to personal blogs Tedickey ( talk) 21:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
The article says Spain "Surrendered Puerto Rico and gave up its possessions in the West Indies." Which islands in the West Indies are they referring to besides those explicitly mentioned? And what happened with those islands; were they put under control of the US or did they become independent like Cuba? Nearwater ( talk) 06:15, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I've moved the following content here for discussion. It was added to the Treaty provisions section by this reverted edit.
The US never complied with the provisions of the Treaty. The Spanish Parliament did not ratify the Treaty, because it did not consider the opinion of the constituents on the Overseas territories being ceded, in relations to their automatic loss of Spanish Citizenship.
I have several problems with this
Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
I've added a {{ Cleanup rewrite}} hatnote to this section, saying: "unencyclopedic wikivoicey style, needs specific pagenos in cites more closely matched with assertions". I do not have access to the cited source for reverification, am not familiar with the specifics here. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC)