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The loss of Ndola DC-6 with Dag Hammarskjöld (Sept. 18, 1961) is back in the news, with the release of the report from an investigation into the death of the U.N. General Assembly president July 6, 2015. Coordinates of the crash site are listed at 13°N. More likely 13°S.
— Prospero Septem ( talk) 18:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
This article and the one on Hammerskjold himself include a map which shows the routes of his plane and a decoy plane. However, except for the map's caption this decoy is not mentioned anywhere in either article. 24.61.4.237 ( talk) 11:17, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Would a better title for this article not be "Death of Dag Hammarskjöld"? That is basically why this is notable after all. It would also be an easy way of avoid the current, slightly convoluted, title.— Brigade Piron ( talk) 18:33, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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I was working on and off in an article like this couple years agosnd quitted as couldn't access many sources. Happy to see someone succeeded, this article is quite good. Only improvement I can think is adding images specific to the accident, maybe from the official repirts? Regards, DPdH ( talk) 03:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
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"In April 2014, The Guardian published evidence implicating Jan van Risseghem, a military pilot who served with the RAF during World War II, later with the Belgian Air Force and became famous as the pilot of Moise Tshombe in Katanga."
This new Guardian story RAF veteran ‘admitted 1961 killing of UN secretary general’ may be of interest. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved per unanimous consensus. No such user ( talk) 12:34, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
1961 Ndola United Nations DC-6 crash → United Nations Flight 001 – The flight number is 001. baaa-acro says it here: [5] Username006 ( talk) 03:03, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Randy Kryn: But why do you want to keep such a long name when the flight number is known? And it is standard proceedure to rename a page if the flight number is known. Username006 ( talk) 14:24, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Please sign your comment by posting four tildes. I'm also requesting for a move here: [6] Username006 ( talk) 15:38, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
— Relisting. Muhibm0307 ( talk) 04:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Andrewa: Fine, this is the naming convention: [7] Username006 ( talk) 14:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Andrewa: The URL itself says 'naming conventions'. I'm not modifying or overruling the policy, but rather applying it. Username006 ( talk) 14:50, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Andrewa: The talk page says it is in scope of Wikiproject aviation and thus, we apply the policies over there. Why do you think it is written naming conventions on the title? Your rules don't override the Wikiproject rules. Username006 ( talk) 04:09, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
4x oppose, 1x agree... why don't we close this? Farawayman ( talk) 01:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Okay, this is for @ Andrewa:. This is proof that the naming convention I had stated earlier was correct: [8]. The page clearly states that page in the 'refer also' section. Username006 ( talk) 08:27, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
In the Infobox, it is written that the "crash site" is "15 km west of Ndola Airport".
But in 2021, that Airport (Ndola Airport) moved addresses and it is now a "next-door neighbour" to that Memorial Site (no-longer 15 km away), as indicated in the Ndola Airport article.
So, what would you suggest we change those words to? Would it be appropriate to write "just south of Ndola Airport"? GeographicAccountant ( talk) 00:11, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Almost every piece of information in the body of text under "Incident" is already contained in the lead, with the exceptions of mentioning that Tshombe's troops were Katangese, that the other side was made up of UN forces, and that before Hammarskjöld was on his way to negotiations to end the fighting, he had learned that there was fighting.
All three of which can be inferred from the knowledge that Tshombe was the president of Katanga, the UN was sending a representative, and the fact that Hammarskjöld was on his way to negotiate a ceasefire (which would, of course, be difficult if he was unaware of the combat).
I'm not suggesting that the section be deleted, just that it be restructured so as to not restate the lead and include more new information about the incident itself. It may be better to actually tighten up the lead instead, but since I'm unsure about best practices here I figured I'd ask. Grassbear ( talk) 03:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
According to Website called baaa-acro ,The Flight Number is UNO001 and I think the title should rename into Transair Sweden Flight 001 Arm Thai ( talk) 05:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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The loss of Ndola DC-6 with Dag Hammarskjöld (Sept. 18, 1961) is back in the news, with the release of the report from an investigation into the death of the U.N. General Assembly president July 6, 2015. Coordinates of the crash site are listed at 13°N. More likely 13°S.
— Prospero Septem ( talk) 18:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
This article and the one on Hammerskjold himself include a map which shows the routes of his plane and a decoy plane. However, except for the map's caption this decoy is not mentioned anywhere in either article. 24.61.4.237 ( talk) 11:17, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Would a better title for this article not be "Death of Dag Hammarskjöld"? That is basically why this is notable after all. It would also be an easy way of avoid the current, slightly convoluted, title.— Brigade Piron ( talk) 18:33, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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I was working on and off in an article like this couple years agosnd quitted as couldn't access many sources. Happy to see someone succeeded, this article is quite good. Only improvement I can think is adding images specific to the accident, maybe from the official repirts? Regards, DPdH ( talk) 03:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
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"In April 2014, The Guardian published evidence implicating Jan van Risseghem, a military pilot who served with the RAF during World War II, later with the Belgian Air Force and became famous as the pilot of Moise Tshombe in Katanga."
This new Guardian story RAF veteran ‘admitted 1961 killing of UN secretary general’ may be of interest. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved per unanimous consensus. No such user ( talk) 12:34, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
1961 Ndola United Nations DC-6 crash → United Nations Flight 001 – The flight number is 001. baaa-acro says it here: [5] Username006 ( talk) 03:03, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Randy Kryn: But why do you want to keep such a long name when the flight number is known? And it is standard proceedure to rename a page if the flight number is known. Username006 ( talk) 14:24, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Please sign your comment by posting four tildes. I'm also requesting for a move here: [6] Username006 ( talk) 15:38, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
— Relisting. Muhibm0307 ( talk) 04:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Andrewa: Fine, this is the naming convention: [7] Username006 ( talk) 14:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Andrewa: The URL itself says 'naming conventions'. I'm not modifying or overruling the policy, but rather applying it. Username006 ( talk) 14:50, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Andrewa: The talk page says it is in scope of Wikiproject aviation and thus, we apply the policies over there. Why do you think it is written naming conventions on the title? Your rules don't override the Wikiproject rules. Username006 ( talk) 04:09, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
4x oppose, 1x agree... why don't we close this? Farawayman ( talk) 01:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Okay, this is for @ Andrewa:. This is proof that the naming convention I had stated earlier was correct: [8]. The page clearly states that page in the 'refer also' section. Username006 ( talk) 08:27, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
In the Infobox, it is written that the "crash site" is "15 km west of Ndola Airport".
But in 2021, that Airport (Ndola Airport) moved addresses and it is now a "next-door neighbour" to that Memorial Site (no-longer 15 km away), as indicated in the Ndola Airport article.
So, what would you suggest we change those words to? Would it be appropriate to write "just south of Ndola Airport"? GeographicAccountant ( talk) 00:11, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Almost every piece of information in the body of text under "Incident" is already contained in the lead, with the exceptions of mentioning that Tshombe's troops were Katangese, that the other side was made up of UN forces, and that before Hammarskjöld was on his way to negotiations to end the fighting, he had learned that there was fighting.
All three of which can be inferred from the knowledge that Tshombe was the president of Katanga, the UN was sending a representative, and the fact that Hammarskjöld was on his way to negotiate a ceasefire (which would, of course, be difficult if he was unaware of the combat).
I'm not suggesting that the section be deleted, just that it be restructured so as to not restate the lead and include more new information about the incident itself. It may be better to actually tighten up the lead instead, but since I'm unsure about best practices here I figured I'd ask. Grassbear ( talk) 03:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
According to Website called baaa-acro ,The Flight Number is UNO001 and I think the title should rename into Transair Sweden Flight 001 Arm Thai ( talk) 05:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC)