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I always heard this group referred to as the "Fairchildren", an obviously more positive name. There seems no middle ground, and I do not know the attribution of either term. How to resolve this? - Gnetwerker 08:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
"(Naively, Shockley envisioned the operation of the Laboratory as if the researchers were the Knights of the Round Table and he were King Arthur.IEEE Spectrum)" This does not give any useful information (King Arthur is seen in very different ways), is mysterious at its best and POV at its worst, and the "IEEE Spectrum" note is just incomprehensible. -- Oop 10:26, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, I worked with some of these people, and the original version is correct. I have reverted your changes and provided a reference. It was trivial to find. -- Gnetwerker 22:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
"There is no record of Shockley ever using the term "traitorous eight," and his wife denied that he ever used it.[3]" Well, taking that for granted, then shouldn't the article be named "Fairchild Eight" instead, and have the term "Traitorous Eight" redirected to it? I think it's wrong to substitute neutral names by mockery names. January, 3, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.43.157.162 ( talk) 13:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I merged Fairchildren into this article as there is no need for two identical articles on the subject. Obviously, a decision needs to be made to use the current title or not per the above discussion. Viriditas ( talk) 08:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The name is normally capitalized in both Google news archive and Google book search results. The first sentence mentions other neutral names, and capitalized them. So I see no reason why this name wouldn't be capitalized. Dream Focus 21:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
It would be a nice addition to have a section outlining the spin-off genealogy and the diffusion of this group's influence among the various Fairchildren. — MaxEnt 11:45, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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I always heard this group referred to as the "Fairchildren", an obviously more positive name. There seems no middle ground, and I do not know the attribution of either term. How to resolve this? - Gnetwerker 08:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
"(Naively, Shockley envisioned the operation of the Laboratory as if the researchers were the Knights of the Round Table and he were King Arthur.IEEE Spectrum)" This does not give any useful information (King Arthur is seen in very different ways), is mysterious at its best and POV at its worst, and the "IEEE Spectrum" note is just incomprehensible. -- Oop 10:26, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, I worked with some of these people, and the original version is correct. I have reverted your changes and provided a reference. It was trivial to find. -- Gnetwerker 22:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
"There is no record of Shockley ever using the term "traitorous eight," and his wife denied that he ever used it.[3]" Well, taking that for granted, then shouldn't the article be named "Fairchild Eight" instead, and have the term "Traitorous Eight" redirected to it? I think it's wrong to substitute neutral names by mockery names. January, 3, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.43.157.162 ( talk) 13:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I merged Fairchildren into this article as there is no need for two identical articles on the subject. Obviously, a decision needs to be made to use the current title or not per the above discussion. Viriditas ( talk) 08:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The name is normally capitalized in both Google news archive and Google book search results. The first sentence mentions other neutral names, and capitalized them. So I see no reason why this name wouldn't be capitalized. Dream Focus 21:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
It would be a nice addition to have a section outlining the spin-off genealogy and the diffusion of this group's influence among the various Fairchildren. — MaxEnt 11:45, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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