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who's been writing in all this advertising? It's got to go.
Trainz is just a "wordprocessor" to build imaginative and creative worlds There is not that much in the box, could it then be said that a text file is an advert for Microsoft
1) removed This module of the game is appreciated for its simplicity. as it is not NPOV
2) added Here, the user can shape and 'paint' the landscape, lay tracks, and place buildings, scenery and trains., a description of what Surveyor actually is.
3) removed Items included with the boxed game are not the only items available for use in the game; Auran offers a download station (or DLS) which hosts over 10000 custom built objects, including decor elements as well as drivable trains. as advertising. Mention of third party content is added below.
4) general grammar and tidy up.
1) added a reference to explain the link between Surveyor and Driver (bearing in mind that this is descriptive of all versions of Trainz).
2) general grammar and tidy up.
1) removed Scenarios are being replaced by the more popular session concept which requires less scripting and can be created in 'Surveyor' rather than having to be fully scripted from a third party application. because
a) it's disputable. Scenarios still exist in the game (as a discrete module, and it is the module which is being described here).
b) it's confusing, and I don't imagine it conveys much meaning to anyone not already familiar with TRS.
1)removed the header, as most of that described were not 'Additional features' of the game.
2)removed the paintshed section - with hindsight, I guess a description of paintshed should be readded, and I will do so. added a new para on Paintshed.
3)removed Trainz Discussion Forum, as pretty much all games have a discussion forum and it's not a notable feature. A link to the forums is at the bottom of the article.
4)removed Language Beta Translation Group - there were translations which were created, but subsequently not used? What relevence has that to anything? If anything, it sounds like a subtle POV - a complaint from a member of the LBTG that their work was not used, perhaps?
5)removed Content Creation Group, for similar reasons as the LBTG. It's confusing to someone who doesn't already know what it is, for one thing. also, an additional reference to third party content has been added, see below.
6) removed Trainz on the Road - certainly an interesting phenomenon but it doesn't really say much about Trainz itself. Auran rewarded demonstrators with premium access to its DLS facilities. sounds a bit funny. Advertising?
Generally tidied up and made more readable.
removed the little box graphics - they don't mean anything to anyone who doesn't know what they already are, they don't add anything to the article, they look untidy and they are inconsistent (there is no icon for scenarios, for example).
added Trainz also has a large content creation community, who use modelling software such as
Gmax to create additional scenery and rolling stock models for use in the game. The more recent versions of Trainz include a lot of third-party content, and registered owners of the game can download (and upload) third party content via the
Trainz website. as a NPOV description of the third party community. Captain scarlet has incorporated this para into his latest edits so I guess it's acceptable.
What do you think of the current version? I have incorporated sections from both "versions", including the information on the LBTG and CCG (under what I think is a more suitable heading of "Community Involvement"). FiggyBee 14:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
In the infobox, supported platforms are Windows, Linux and Mac. However, in the text body, it says that Linux and Mac are experimental/yet to be released. If this is the case, should the infobox really include these? Hertzsprung 16:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be appropriate to mention some of the most major and persistent bugs of the game somewhere?
Just as a sole example (I don't want to edit the main page before asking here) the "driver AI" still doesn't work, even after all these versions, patches and service packs; meaning that the pathfinding makes severe errors, the drivers ignore signals and direction markers, and that blocked trains will "lose their patience" and end up dead-locking each other or become coupled to each other (effectively destroying one driver and his orders) 213.112.249.111 17:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Should the external links include the major non-profit usergroups/fansites for Trainz, such as Trainz Pro Routes and the Razorback Railway? I put in a link to Virtual Railroader's Train Sim Webfinder http://www.virtualrailroader.com/HTML_Version/WebFinder.htm (a huge list of links to trainsim sites for all the major programs) but it got zapped for being regarded as advertising.Unsigned comment was added by John259, 10:14, 17 November 2006 GMT
I've removed the comments in the External links section about the official forum's up/down status. This information isn't really encyclopedic. Yes, there have been problems with Auran's forum upgrade, but WP:NOT a status monitor for other websites. Slambo (Speak) 18:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Captain Scarlet: Trainz Driver Edition is NOT just a regional edition. As the review that I linked to clearly explains, TDE is a special cut-down version sold in the USA at a low price and is totally different to the regional editions. It is therefore my opinion that the following entry should be restored please:
Captain - Thanks for making the changes, what you now have seems a very reasonable compromise to me. John259 20:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I fixed two completely incorrect things here: scenarios are availible in Ultimate Trainz Collection and up! TRS2006 does have scenarios accessable from the Driver module. I know because I have TRS2006 myself. And, TRS2004 had "scenario-like" sessions, not just TRS2006 and Trainz Driver Edition. Moojgoo 23:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Moojgoo
Hi,
I don't think there's much in the TRS 2006 article that isn't also in this one, so I'm suggesting it be merged in. As each version of Trainz is little more than an update of it's predecessor, I think having seperate articles for each incarnation would be overkill, as most of the info about gameplay, etc, would be duplicated. Far better to have it all in one place, so the article can discuss the differences rather than repeat the similarites.
BTW, this is similar to, say, the article on Railroad Tycoon, which covers the whole series (and I'd say RRT -> RRT3 is a much bigger jump than Trainz CE -> TRS2006). FiggyBee 04:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't see much emphasis on scenarios in the current release of Trainz 2006; only a handful are included, and there is no documentation telling you how to create your own. Far more emphasis is placed on sessions.
Would it be correct to state that Auran want route creators to concentrate on sessions, and that scenario support is only included for backwards compatibility with earlier versions of Trainz? 217.155.20.163 22:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes I think that is basically correct. Be aware that this has been a highly controversial subject in the Trainz community, as has TRS2006 generally. It is possible to create activities which run as scenarios in TRS2004 and as driver sessions which appear to be as close as possible to scenarios in TRS2006. The Razorback Railway does this. In addition, Trainz Pro Routes have a version of their Scenario Creation System (SCS) program for TRS2006. I'm not sure whether any of this information should go in the article, probably not. John259 06:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
May I ask, who said this?
"A version for Mac OS X is in the testing phase as of April 2006. Auran recently told one of the Trainz community members that development on the Mac version has been suspended and will not be released."
The truth to that fact is that no one is allowed to comment on that sort of thing as all of us on the beta team are under a strict NDA, which needs to be ahered to at all times.
Therefore, the statement is nor correct or incorrect and I recommend it is removed until AURAN confirm whichever case it is.
WessexElectricNut 18:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
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What's with the redirects to this article? I mean, like TRS2004, TRS2006, Trainz Railroad Simulator 2006? It's absolutely ridiculous! I can see evidence that some time ago the Trainz articles were fragmented. Ouch! (well, that's already taken care of.) But now there's redirects left over and redundant links in articles, say, Auran. Why not delete all these redundant redirects then go and clean up those articles that link here! [| Retro00064 | ( talk/ contribs) |] 04:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#RailDriver_contested_prod if you have some interest in this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrolljon ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Captain Scarlet's image used in the infobox on this article does have source information. the image page says it's author's name is Gregory. Captain Scarlet's name is Gregory, as proved by the above disscusion, please look in Talk:Trainz#Plural of Scenario at the comments, you will see where User:FiggyBee calls him "Greg", and Captain Scarlet says not to call users by their real name. I don't even like using his real name here but it's the proof needed to save the image. If you need more proof, ask Captain Scarlet himself on his talk page (don't expect him to get back right away, his last contrib was on April 1). [| Retro00064| ☎talk| ✍contribs|] 05:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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I know this is essentially a video game, but I was wondering if this could be included in the Trains WikiProject? Seeing how a lot of people who play the various Trainz Railroad Simulator and the Microsoft Trains Simulator are either railroad employees and/or Railfans, I thought it might serve as, if nothing else, an interesting reference within the project. Thoughts? Comments? Snide remarks? Erzahler ( talk) 20:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I have seen this article a number of times, and in my opinion it is quite confusing and in need of a remake. Does anybody have a problem with me changing the order of the topics, along with a few other things? Looking at Microsoft Flight Simulator X, it has a neat layout and order. Maybe we should make new sections for the new versions, and a section for the older ones. Hardware and community is less important than versions in my opinion. Any more views on this? Mjosefsson ( talk) 12:20, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
IMHO go for it, it does indeed need a damn good sort out. At the same time all that stupid nonsense about the plural of scenario not being scenarios needs to be deleted from this page. That's just my 2c worth though, what do other people think? John259 ( talk) 12:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I've deleted the scenarii rubbish from this page John259 ( talk) 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Please note that pretty much all of the edits done by the users on the 92.* submask since 2 June 2010 are incorrect and are using a subtle form of vandalism whereby they make small incremental changes hoping that noone notices that they're introducing lies and distortions. Pretty much all of these edits need to be reverted back to Plastikspork's edit. 87.194.151.6 ( talk) 19:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that this article has needed cleanup for some time now, but I have finally gotten around to working on it. Here is a link to the diff, and below are some details on what I have done:
The article still needs work, and references need to be added and removed as needed also (the article seems to be sparse on sources), but I believe that this cleanup that I have done is a big improvement over the previous messy version. After the work I did on this, etc., I think that a break is due from working on it right now. :-)
Kind regards,
[| Retro00064| ☎talk| ✍contribs|] 02:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
who's been writing in all this advertising? It's got to go.
Trainz is just a "wordprocessor" to build imaginative and creative worlds There is not that much in the box, could it then be said that a text file is an advert for Microsoft
1) removed This module of the game is appreciated for its simplicity. as it is not NPOV
2) added Here, the user can shape and 'paint' the landscape, lay tracks, and place buildings, scenery and trains., a description of what Surveyor actually is.
3) removed Items included with the boxed game are not the only items available for use in the game; Auran offers a download station (or DLS) which hosts over 10000 custom built objects, including decor elements as well as drivable trains. as advertising. Mention of third party content is added below.
4) general grammar and tidy up.
1) added a reference to explain the link between Surveyor and Driver (bearing in mind that this is descriptive of all versions of Trainz).
2) general grammar and tidy up.
1) removed Scenarios are being replaced by the more popular session concept which requires less scripting and can be created in 'Surveyor' rather than having to be fully scripted from a third party application. because
a) it's disputable. Scenarios still exist in the game (as a discrete module, and it is the module which is being described here).
b) it's confusing, and I don't imagine it conveys much meaning to anyone not already familiar with TRS.
1)removed the header, as most of that described were not 'Additional features' of the game.
2)removed the paintshed section - with hindsight, I guess a description of paintshed should be readded, and I will do so. added a new para on Paintshed.
3)removed Trainz Discussion Forum, as pretty much all games have a discussion forum and it's not a notable feature. A link to the forums is at the bottom of the article.
4)removed Language Beta Translation Group - there were translations which were created, but subsequently not used? What relevence has that to anything? If anything, it sounds like a subtle POV - a complaint from a member of the LBTG that their work was not used, perhaps?
5)removed Content Creation Group, for similar reasons as the LBTG. It's confusing to someone who doesn't already know what it is, for one thing. also, an additional reference to third party content has been added, see below.
6) removed Trainz on the Road - certainly an interesting phenomenon but it doesn't really say much about Trainz itself. Auran rewarded demonstrators with premium access to its DLS facilities. sounds a bit funny. Advertising?
Generally tidied up and made more readable.
removed the little box graphics - they don't mean anything to anyone who doesn't know what they already are, they don't add anything to the article, they look untidy and they are inconsistent (there is no icon for scenarios, for example).
added Trainz also has a large content creation community, who use modelling software such as
Gmax to create additional scenery and rolling stock models for use in the game. The more recent versions of Trainz include a lot of third-party content, and registered owners of the game can download (and upload) third party content via the
Trainz website. as a NPOV description of the third party community. Captain scarlet has incorporated this para into his latest edits so I guess it's acceptable.
What do you think of the current version? I have incorporated sections from both "versions", including the information on the LBTG and CCG (under what I think is a more suitable heading of "Community Involvement"). FiggyBee 14:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
In the infobox, supported platforms are Windows, Linux and Mac. However, in the text body, it says that Linux and Mac are experimental/yet to be released. If this is the case, should the infobox really include these? Hertzsprung 16:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be appropriate to mention some of the most major and persistent bugs of the game somewhere?
Just as a sole example (I don't want to edit the main page before asking here) the "driver AI" still doesn't work, even after all these versions, patches and service packs; meaning that the pathfinding makes severe errors, the drivers ignore signals and direction markers, and that blocked trains will "lose their patience" and end up dead-locking each other or become coupled to each other (effectively destroying one driver and his orders) 213.112.249.111 17:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Should the external links include the major non-profit usergroups/fansites for Trainz, such as Trainz Pro Routes and the Razorback Railway? I put in a link to Virtual Railroader's Train Sim Webfinder http://www.virtualrailroader.com/HTML_Version/WebFinder.htm (a huge list of links to trainsim sites for all the major programs) but it got zapped for being regarded as advertising.Unsigned comment was added by John259, 10:14, 17 November 2006 GMT
I've removed the comments in the External links section about the official forum's up/down status. This information isn't really encyclopedic. Yes, there have been problems with Auran's forum upgrade, but WP:NOT a status monitor for other websites. Slambo (Speak) 18:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Captain Scarlet: Trainz Driver Edition is NOT just a regional edition. As the review that I linked to clearly explains, TDE is a special cut-down version sold in the USA at a low price and is totally different to the regional editions. It is therefore my opinion that the following entry should be restored please:
Captain - Thanks for making the changes, what you now have seems a very reasonable compromise to me. John259 20:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I fixed two completely incorrect things here: scenarios are availible in Ultimate Trainz Collection and up! TRS2006 does have scenarios accessable from the Driver module. I know because I have TRS2006 myself. And, TRS2004 had "scenario-like" sessions, not just TRS2006 and Trainz Driver Edition. Moojgoo 23:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Moojgoo
Hi,
I don't think there's much in the TRS 2006 article that isn't also in this one, so I'm suggesting it be merged in. As each version of Trainz is little more than an update of it's predecessor, I think having seperate articles for each incarnation would be overkill, as most of the info about gameplay, etc, would be duplicated. Far better to have it all in one place, so the article can discuss the differences rather than repeat the similarites.
BTW, this is similar to, say, the article on Railroad Tycoon, which covers the whole series (and I'd say RRT -> RRT3 is a much bigger jump than Trainz CE -> TRS2006). FiggyBee 04:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't see much emphasis on scenarios in the current release of Trainz 2006; only a handful are included, and there is no documentation telling you how to create your own. Far more emphasis is placed on sessions.
Would it be correct to state that Auran want route creators to concentrate on sessions, and that scenario support is only included for backwards compatibility with earlier versions of Trainz? 217.155.20.163 22:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes I think that is basically correct. Be aware that this has been a highly controversial subject in the Trainz community, as has TRS2006 generally. It is possible to create activities which run as scenarios in TRS2004 and as driver sessions which appear to be as close as possible to scenarios in TRS2006. The Razorback Railway does this. In addition, Trainz Pro Routes have a version of their Scenario Creation System (SCS) program for TRS2006. I'm not sure whether any of this information should go in the article, probably not. John259 06:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
May I ask, who said this?
"A version for Mac OS X is in the testing phase as of April 2006. Auran recently told one of the Trainz community members that development on the Mac version has been suspended and will not be released."
The truth to that fact is that no one is allowed to comment on that sort of thing as all of us on the beta team are under a strict NDA, which needs to be ahered to at all times.
Therefore, the statement is nor correct or incorrect and I recommend it is removed until AURAN confirm whichever case it is.
WessexElectricNut 18:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
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What's with the redirects to this article? I mean, like TRS2004, TRS2006, Trainz Railroad Simulator 2006? It's absolutely ridiculous! I can see evidence that some time ago the Trainz articles were fragmented. Ouch! (well, that's already taken care of.) But now there's redirects left over and redundant links in articles, say, Auran. Why not delete all these redundant redirects then go and clean up those articles that link here! [| Retro00064 | ( talk/ contribs) |] 04:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#RailDriver_contested_prod if you have some interest in this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrolljon ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Captain Scarlet's image used in the infobox on this article does have source information. the image page says it's author's name is Gregory. Captain Scarlet's name is Gregory, as proved by the above disscusion, please look in Talk:Trainz#Plural of Scenario at the comments, you will see where User:FiggyBee calls him "Greg", and Captain Scarlet says not to call users by their real name. I don't even like using his real name here but it's the proof needed to save the image. If you need more proof, ask Captain Scarlet himself on his talk page (don't expect him to get back right away, his last contrib was on April 1). [| Retro00064| ☎talk| ✍contribs|] 05:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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I know this is essentially a video game, but I was wondering if this could be included in the Trains WikiProject? Seeing how a lot of people who play the various Trainz Railroad Simulator and the Microsoft Trains Simulator are either railroad employees and/or Railfans, I thought it might serve as, if nothing else, an interesting reference within the project. Thoughts? Comments? Snide remarks? Erzahler ( talk) 20:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I have seen this article a number of times, and in my opinion it is quite confusing and in need of a remake. Does anybody have a problem with me changing the order of the topics, along with a few other things? Looking at Microsoft Flight Simulator X, it has a neat layout and order. Maybe we should make new sections for the new versions, and a section for the older ones. Hardware and community is less important than versions in my opinion. Any more views on this? Mjosefsson ( talk) 12:20, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
IMHO go for it, it does indeed need a damn good sort out. At the same time all that stupid nonsense about the plural of scenario not being scenarios needs to be deleted from this page. That's just my 2c worth though, what do other people think? John259 ( talk) 12:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I've deleted the scenarii rubbish from this page John259 ( talk) 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Please note that pretty much all of the edits done by the users on the 92.* submask since 2 June 2010 are incorrect and are using a subtle form of vandalism whereby they make small incremental changes hoping that noone notices that they're introducing lies and distortions. Pretty much all of these edits need to be reverted back to Plastikspork's edit. 87.194.151.6 ( talk) 19:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that this article has needed cleanup for some time now, but I have finally gotten around to working on it. Here is a link to the diff, and below are some details on what I have done:
The article still needs work, and references need to be added and removed as needed also (the article seems to be sparse on sources), but I believe that this cleanup that I have done is a big improvement over the previous messy version. After the work I did on this, etc., I think that a break is due from working on it right now. :-)
Kind regards,
[| Retro00064| ☎talk| ✍contribs|] 02:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Free downloads are not longer allowed on 2006 and 1009 versions. The download center is not paid only. This should be noted that download support will now only be for a few years after the produt is released. And that authors can no longer rely on the download center to distribute modified items. Sattmaster ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC).
I believe this is written like an advertisement:
These are stand-alone programs and can also be added to Trainz Simulator 2009. This means that you will not be required to have Trainz Simulator 2009 to use this product, although if you do, it will give you the added bonus of accessing the content in surveyor.
IluvSD40s ( talk) 05:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I just deleted it. In my opinion its not even worth saving. Any objections? In my opion its relatively unimportant to prioritize that until the rest of the article is at average quality. Mjosefsson ( talk) 20:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
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who's been writing in all this advertising? It's got to go.
Trainz is just a "wordprocessor" to build imaginative and creative worlds There is not that much in the box, could it then be said that a text file is an advert for Microsoft
1) removed This module of the game is appreciated for its simplicity. as it is not NPOV
2) added Here, the user can shape and 'paint' the landscape, lay tracks, and place buildings, scenery and trains., a description of what Surveyor actually is.
3) removed Items included with the boxed game are not the only items available for use in the game; Auran offers a download station (or DLS) which hosts over 10000 custom built objects, including decor elements as well as drivable trains. as advertising. Mention of third party content is added below.
4) general grammar and tidy up.
1) added a reference to explain the link between Surveyor and Driver (bearing in mind that this is descriptive of all versions of Trainz).
2) general grammar and tidy up.
1) removed Scenarios are being replaced by the more popular session concept which requires less scripting and can be created in 'Surveyor' rather than having to be fully scripted from a third party application. because
a) it's disputable. Scenarios still exist in the game (as a discrete module, and it is the module which is being described here).
b) it's confusing, and I don't imagine it conveys much meaning to anyone not already familiar with TRS.
1)removed the header, as most of that described were not 'Additional features' of the game.
2)removed the paintshed section - with hindsight, I guess a description of paintshed should be readded, and I will do so. added a new para on Paintshed.
3)removed Trainz Discussion Forum, as pretty much all games have a discussion forum and it's not a notable feature. A link to the forums is at the bottom of the article.
4)removed Language Beta Translation Group - there were translations which were created, but subsequently not used? What relevence has that to anything? If anything, it sounds like a subtle POV - a complaint from a member of the LBTG that their work was not used, perhaps?
5)removed Content Creation Group, for similar reasons as the LBTG. It's confusing to someone who doesn't already know what it is, for one thing. also, an additional reference to third party content has been added, see below.
6) removed Trainz on the Road - certainly an interesting phenomenon but it doesn't really say much about Trainz itself. Auran rewarded demonstrators with premium access to its DLS facilities. sounds a bit funny. Advertising?
Generally tidied up and made more readable.
removed the little box graphics - they don't mean anything to anyone who doesn't know what they already are, they don't add anything to the article, they look untidy and they are inconsistent (there is no icon for scenarios, for example).
added Trainz also has a large content creation community, who use modelling software such as
Gmax to create additional scenery and rolling stock models for use in the game. The more recent versions of Trainz include a lot of third-party content, and registered owners of the game can download (and upload) third party content via the
Trainz website. as a NPOV description of the third party community. Captain scarlet has incorporated this para into his latest edits so I guess it's acceptable.
What do you think of the current version? I have incorporated sections from both "versions", including the information on the LBTG and CCG (under what I think is a more suitable heading of "Community Involvement"). FiggyBee 14:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
In the infobox, supported platforms are Windows, Linux and Mac. However, in the text body, it says that Linux and Mac are experimental/yet to be released. If this is the case, should the infobox really include these? Hertzsprung 16:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be appropriate to mention some of the most major and persistent bugs of the game somewhere?
Just as a sole example (I don't want to edit the main page before asking here) the "driver AI" still doesn't work, even after all these versions, patches and service packs; meaning that the pathfinding makes severe errors, the drivers ignore signals and direction markers, and that blocked trains will "lose their patience" and end up dead-locking each other or become coupled to each other (effectively destroying one driver and his orders) 213.112.249.111 17:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Should the external links include the major non-profit usergroups/fansites for Trainz, such as Trainz Pro Routes and the Razorback Railway? I put in a link to Virtual Railroader's Train Sim Webfinder http://www.virtualrailroader.com/HTML_Version/WebFinder.htm (a huge list of links to trainsim sites for all the major programs) but it got zapped for being regarded as advertising.Unsigned comment was added by John259, 10:14, 17 November 2006 GMT
I've removed the comments in the External links section about the official forum's up/down status. This information isn't really encyclopedic. Yes, there have been problems with Auran's forum upgrade, but WP:NOT a status monitor for other websites. Slambo (Speak) 18:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Captain Scarlet: Trainz Driver Edition is NOT just a regional edition. As the review that I linked to clearly explains, TDE is a special cut-down version sold in the USA at a low price and is totally different to the regional editions. It is therefore my opinion that the following entry should be restored please:
Captain - Thanks for making the changes, what you now have seems a very reasonable compromise to me. John259 20:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I fixed two completely incorrect things here: scenarios are availible in Ultimate Trainz Collection and up! TRS2006 does have scenarios accessable from the Driver module. I know because I have TRS2006 myself. And, TRS2004 had "scenario-like" sessions, not just TRS2006 and Trainz Driver Edition. Moojgoo 23:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Moojgoo
Hi,
I don't think there's much in the TRS 2006 article that isn't also in this one, so I'm suggesting it be merged in. As each version of Trainz is little more than an update of it's predecessor, I think having seperate articles for each incarnation would be overkill, as most of the info about gameplay, etc, would be duplicated. Far better to have it all in one place, so the article can discuss the differences rather than repeat the similarites.
BTW, this is similar to, say, the article on Railroad Tycoon, which covers the whole series (and I'd say RRT -> RRT3 is a much bigger jump than Trainz CE -> TRS2006). FiggyBee 04:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't see much emphasis on scenarios in the current release of Trainz 2006; only a handful are included, and there is no documentation telling you how to create your own. Far more emphasis is placed on sessions.
Would it be correct to state that Auran want route creators to concentrate on sessions, and that scenario support is only included for backwards compatibility with earlier versions of Trainz? 217.155.20.163 22:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes I think that is basically correct. Be aware that this has been a highly controversial subject in the Trainz community, as has TRS2006 generally. It is possible to create activities which run as scenarios in TRS2004 and as driver sessions which appear to be as close as possible to scenarios in TRS2006. The Razorback Railway does this. In addition, Trainz Pro Routes have a version of their Scenario Creation System (SCS) program for TRS2006. I'm not sure whether any of this information should go in the article, probably not. John259 06:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
May I ask, who said this?
"A version for Mac OS X is in the testing phase as of April 2006. Auran recently told one of the Trainz community members that development on the Mac version has been suspended and will not be released."
The truth to that fact is that no one is allowed to comment on that sort of thing as all of us on the beta team are under a strict NDA, which needs to be ahered to at all times.
Therefore, the statement is nor correct or incorrect and I recommend it is removed until AURAN confirm whichever case it is.
WessexElectricNut 18:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
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What's with the redirects to this article? I mean, like TRS2004, TRS2006, Trainz Railroad Simulator 2006? It's absolutely ridiculous! I can see evidence that some time ago the Trainz articles were fragmented. Ouch! (well, that's already taken care of.) But now there's redirects left over and redundant links in articles, say, Auran. Why not delete all these redundant redirects then go and clean up those articles that link here! [| Retro00064 | ( talk/ contribs) |] 04:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#RailDriver_contested_prod if you have some interest in this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrolljon ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Captain Scarlet's image used in the infobox on this article does have source information. the image page says it's author's name is Gregory. Captain Scarlet's name is Gregory, as proved by the above disscusion, please look in Talk:Trainz#Plural of Scenario at the comments, you will see where User:FiggyBee calls him "Greg", and Captain Scarlet says not to call users by their real name. I don't even like using his real name here but it's the proof needed to save the image. If you need more proof, ask Captain Scarlet himself on his talk page (don't expect him to get back right away, his last contrib was on April 1). [| Retro00064| ☎talk| ✍contribs|] 05:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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I know this is essentially a video game, but I was wondering if this could be included in the Trains WikiProject? Seeing how a lot of people who play the various Trainz Railroad Simulator and the Microsoft Trains Simulator are either railroad employees and/or Railfans, I thought it might serve as, if nothing else, an interesting reference within the project. Thoughts? Comments? Snide remarks? Erzahler ( talk) 20:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I have seen this article a number of times, and in my opinion it is quite confusing and in need of a remake. Does anybody have a problem with me changing the order of the topics, along with a few other things? Looking at Microsoft Flight Simulator X, it has a neat layout and order. Maybe we should make new sections for the new versions, and a section for the older ones. Hardware and community is less important than versions in my opinion. Any more views on this? Mjosefsson ( talk) 12:20, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
IMHO go for it, it does indeed need a damn good sort out. At the same time all that stupid nonsense about the plural of scenario not being scenarios needs to be deleted from this page. That's just my 2c worth though, what do other people think? John259 ( talk) 12:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I've deleted the scenarii rubbish from this page John259 ( talk) 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Please note that pretty much all of the edits done by the users on the 92.* submask since 2 June 2010 are incorrect and are using a subtle form of vandalism whereby they make small incremental changes hoping that noone notices that they're introducing lies and distortions. Pretty much all of these edits need to be reverted back to Plastikspork's edit. 87.194.151.6 ( talk) 19:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that this article has needed cleanup for some time now, but I have finally gotten around to working on it. Here is a link to the diff, and below are some details on what I have done:
The article still needs work, and references need to be added and removed as needed also (the article seems to be sparse on sources), but I believe that this cleanup that I have done is a big improvement over the previous messy version. After the work I did on this, etc., I think that a break is due from working on it right now. :-)
Kind regards,
[| Retro00064| ☎talk| ✍contribs|] 02:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
who's been writing in all this advertising? It's got to go.
Trainz is just a "wordprocessor" to build imaginative and creative worlds There is not that much in the box, could it then be said that a text file is an advert for Microsoft
1) removed This module of the game is appreciated for its simplicity. as it is not NPOV
2) added Here, the user can shape and 'paint' the landscape, lay tracks, and place buildings, scenery and trains., a description of what Surveyor actually is.
3) removed Items included with the boxed game are not the only items available for use in the game; Auran offers a download station (or DLS) which hosts over 10000 custom built objects, including decor elements as well as drivable trains. as advertising. Mention of third party content is added below.
4) general grammar and tidy up.
1) added a reference to explain the link between Surveyor and Driver (bearing in mind that this is descriptive of all versions of Trainz).
2) general grammar and tidy up.
1) removed Scenarios are being replaced by the more popular session concept which requires less scripting and can be created in 'Surveyor' rather than having to be fully scripted from a third party application. because
a) it's disputable. Scenarios still exist in the game (as a discrete module, and it is the module which is being described here).
b) it's confusing, and I don't imagine it conveys much meaning to anyone not already familiar with TRS.
1)removed the header, as most of that described were not 'Additional features' of the game.
2)removed the paintshed section - with hindsight, I guess a description of paintshed should be readded, and I will do so. added a new para on Paintshed.
3)removed Trainz Discussion Forum, as pretty much all games have a discussion forum and it's not a notable feature. A link to the forums is at the bottom of the article.
4)removed Language Beta Translation Group - there were translations which were created, but subsequently not used? What relevence has that to anything? If anything, it sounds like a subtle POV - a complaint from a member of the LBTG that their work was not used, perhaps?
5)removed Content Creation Group, for similar reasons as the LBTG. It's confusing to someone who doesn't already know what it is, for one thing. also, an additional reference to third party content has been added, see below.
6) removed Trainz on the Road - certainly an interesting phenomenon but it doesn't really say much about Trainz itself. Auran rewarded demonstrators with premium access to its DLS facilities. sounds a bit funny. Advertising?
Generally tidied up and made more readable.
removed the little box graphics - they don't mean anything to anyone who doesn't know what they already are, they don't add anything to the article, they look untidy and they are inconsistent (there is no icon for scenarios, for example).
added Trainz also has a large content creation community, who use modelling software such as
Gmax to create additional scenery and rolling stock models for use in the game. The more recent versions of Trainz include a lot of third-party content, and registered owners of the game can download (and upload) third party content via the
Trainz website. as a NPOV description of the third party community. Captain scarlet has incorporated this para into his latest edits so I guess it's acceptable.
What do you think of the current version? I have incorporated sections from both "versions", including the information on the LBTG and CCG (under what I think is a more suitable heading of "Community Involvement"). FiggyBee 14:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
In the infobox, supported platforms are Windows, Linux and Mac. However, in the text body, it says that Linux and Mac are experimental/yet to be released. If this is the case, should the infobox really include these? Hertzsprung 16:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be appropriate to mention some of the most major and persistent bugs of the game somewhere?
Just as a sole example (I don't want to edit the main page before asking here) the "driver AI" still doesn't work, even after all these versions, patches and service packs; meaning that the pathfinding makes severe errors, the drivers ignore signals and direction markers, and that blocked trains will "lose their patience" and end up dead-locking each other or become coupled to each other (effectively destroying one driver and his orders) 213.112.249.111 17:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Should the external links include the major non-profit usergroups/fansites for Trainz, such as Trainz Pro Routes and the Razorback Railway? I put in a link to Virtual Railroader's Train Sim Webfinder http://www.virtualrailroader.com/HTML_Version/WebFinder.htm (a huge list of links to trainsim sites for all the major programs) but it got zapped for being regarded as advertising.Unsigned comment was added by John259, 10:14, 17 November 2006 GMT
I've removed the comments in the External links section about the official forum's up/down status. This information isn't really encyclopedic. Yes, there have been problems with Auran's forum upgrade, but WP:NOT a status monitor for other websites. Slambo (Speak) 18:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Captain Scarlet: Trainz Driver Edition is NOT just a regional edition. As the review that I linked to clearly explains, TDE is a special cut-down version sold in the USA at a low price and is totally different to the regional editions. It is therefore my opinion that the following entry should be restored please:
Captain - Thanks for making the changes, what you now have seems a very reasonable compromise to me. John259 20:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I fixed two completely incorrect things here: scenarios are availible in Ultimate Trainz Collection and up! TRS2006 does have scenarios accessable from the Driver module. I know because I have TRS2006 myself. And, TRS2004 had "scenario-like" sessions, not just TRS2006 and Trainz Driver Edition. Moojgoo 23:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Moojgoo
Hi,
I don't think there's much in the TRS 2006 article that isn't also in this one, so I'm suggesting it be merged in. As each version of Trainz is little more than an update of it's predecessor, I think having seperate articles for each incarnation would be overkill, as most of the info about gameplay, etc, would be duplicated. Far better to have it all in one place, so the article can discuss the differences rather than repeat the similarites.
BTW, this is similar to, say, the article on Railroad Tycoon, which covers the whole series (and I'd say RRT -> RRT3 is a much bigger jump than Trainz CE -> TRS2006). FiggyBee 04:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't see much emphasis on scenarios in the current release of Trainz 2006; only a handful are included, and there is no documentation telling you how to create your own. Far more emphasis is placed on sessions.
Would it be correct to state that Auran want route creators to concentrate on sessions, and that scenario support is only included for backwards compatibility with earlier versions of Trainz? 217.155.20.163 22:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes I think that is basically correct. Be aware that this has been a highly controversial subject in the Trainz community, as has TRS2006 generally. It is possible to create activities which run as scenarios in TRS2004 and as driver sessions which appear to be as close as possible to scenarios in TRS2006. The Razorback Railway does this. In addition, Trainz Pro Routes have a version of their Scenario Creation System (SCS) program for TRS2006. I'm not sure whether any of this information should go in the article, probably not. John259 06:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
May I ask, who said this?
"A version for Mac OS X is in the testing phase as of April 2006. Auran recently told one of the Trainz community members that development on the Mac version has been suspended and will not be released."
The truth to that fact is that no one is allowed to comment on that sort of thing as all of us on the beta team are under a strict NDA, which needs to be ahered to at all times.
Therefore, the statement is nor correct or incorrect and I recommend it is removed until AURAN confirm whichever case it is.
WessexElectricNut 18:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 02:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
What's with the redirects to this article? I mean, like TRS2004, TRS2006, Trainz Railroad Simulator 2006? It's absolutely ridiculous! I can see evidence that some time ago the Trainz articles were fragmented. Ouch! (well, that's already taken care of.) But now there's redirects left over and redundant links in articles, say, Auran. Why not delete all these redundant redirects then go and clean up those articles that link here! [| Retro00064 | ( talk/ contribs) |] 04:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#RailDriver_contested_prod if you have some interest in this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrolljon ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Captain Scarlet's image used in the infobox on this article does have source information. the image page says it's author's name is Gregory. Captain Scarlet's name is Gregory, as proved by the above disscusion, please look in Talk:Trainz#Plural of Scenario at the comments, you will see where User:FiggyBee calls him "Greg", and Captain Scarlet says not to call users by their real name. I don't even like using his real name here but it's the proof needed to save the image. If you need more proof, ask Captain Scarlet himself on his talk page (don't expect him to get back right away, his last contrib was on April 1). [| Retro00064| ☎talk| ✍contribs|] 05:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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I know this is essentially a video game, but I was wondering if this could be included in the Trains WikiProject? Seeing how a lot of people who play the various Trainz Railroad Simulator and the Microsoft Trains Simulator are either railroad employees and/or Railfans, I thought it might serve as, if nothing else, an interesting reference within the project. Thoughts? Comments? Snide remarks? Erzahler ( talk) 20:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I have seen this article a number of times, and in my opinion it is quite confusing and in need of a remake. Does anybody have a problem with me changing the order of the topics, along with a few other things? Looking at Microsoft Flight Simulator X, it has a neat layout and order. Maybe we should make new sections for the new versions, and a section for the older ones. Hardware and community is less important than versions in my opinion. Any more views on this? Mjosefsson ( talk) 12:20, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
IMHO go for it, it does indeed need a damn good sort out. At the same time all that stupid nonsense about the plural of scenario not being scenarios needs to be deleted from this page. That's just my 2c worth though, what do other people think? John259 ( talk) 12:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I've deleted the scenarii rubbish from this page John259 ( talk) 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Please note that pretty much all of the edits done by the users on the 92.* submask since 2 June 2010 are incorrect and are using a subtle form of vandalism whereby they make small incremental changes hoping that noone notices that they're introducing lies and distortions. Pretty much all of these edits need to be reverted back to Plastikspork's edit. 87.194.151.6 ( talk) 19:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that this article has needed cleanup for some time now, but I have finally gotten around to working on it. Here is a link to the diff, and below are some details on what I have done:
The article still needs work, and references need to be added and removed as needed also (the article seems to be sparse on sources), but I believe that this cleanup that I have done is a big improvement over the previous messy version. After the work I did on this, etc., I think that a break is due from working on it right now. :-)
Kind regards,
[| Retro00064| ☎talk| ✍contribs|] 02:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Free downloads are not longer allowed on 2006 and 1009 versions. The download center is not paid only. This should be noted that download support will now only be for a few years after the produt is released. And that authors can no longer rely on the download center to distribute modified items. Sattmaster ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC).
I believe this is written like an advertisement:
These are stand-alone programs and can also be added to Trainz Simulator 2009. This means that you will not be required to have Trainz Simulator 2009 to use this product, although if you do, it will give you the added bonus of accessing the content in surveyor.
IluvSD40s ( talk) 05:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I just deleted it. In my opinion its not even worth saving. Any objections? In my opion its relatively unimportant to prioritize that until the rest of the article is at average quality. Mjosefsson ( talk) 20:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)